Are you not entertained? BBC's 100 Greatest American Movies

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1 movie made in the 90s or later in the top 20. Seems like some sort of retro bias to me.

Don't really want to hear that they made movies better back then it's false. I've seen the majority of the movies in the top 20 and while the flicks are good the novelty is greater than the actual flicks in a large number of the cases.
 

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Its top 100 for sure but top 25, nah.

Man I disagree. Even if I wouldn't put it top 25, It's at least top 30. I feel like its in the upper echelon of greatest american films. It's layered, it's complex, it's got a clear voice, and it's always relevant and it stays with you
 

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1 movie made in the 90s in the top 20. Seems like some sort of retro bias to me.

It's not retro bias breh as much as it's conventional thinking at this point. Most of those movies in the top 25 are on damn near every greatest of list compiled my critics over the past 2 decades. The reason the greats are the greats is because they stand the test of time. Also, it's just a guideline and their opinions but as a film geek, I feel like every movie on the list is worth watching but definitely that top 25
 
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But again which are you taking off that top 25 for them? The fact that wizard of oz is on the list means it's great. Same with Star Wars. Titanic though? Nah doesn't work for me breh. Not as a great movie. It's got too many issues for me and just doesn't work on a lot of levels. The spectacle works and the scope works but as far as everything else I need for a great movie (fleshed out characters, great dialogue) it's lacking. Like if I'm comparing do the right thing and titanic that's an easy W for do the right thing. Easy.

oh please dark knight is on the list.

citizen kane and godfather are 1 and 2. this is a very cliche, very objective list. the fact that they omitted the biggest and most iconic movie of the modern era is a glaring oversight.

and just purely on a technical level it is an amazing movie. those 3 hours fly by.

classic scenes. classic score. classic quotes. classic american movie.
 

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oh please dark knight is on the list.

citizen kane and godfather are 1 and 2. this is a very cliche, very objective list. the fact that they omitted the biggest and most iconic movie of the modern era is a glaring oversight.

and just purely on a technical level it is an amazing movie. those 3 hours fly by.

classic scenes. classic score. classic quotes. classic american movie.

Yeah we just disagree on titanic breh. Like how can you be mad at a greatest of list for naming godfather 1 or 2 and citizen Kane? Like I said greatness stands the test of time. Titanic has never hit me the way it hit you so I don't see it as an oversight. If those three movies or goodfellas wasn't on the list that would be an oversight.
 

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It's not retro bias breh as much as it's conventional thinking at this point. Most of those movies in the top 25 are on damn near every greatest of list compiled my critics over the past 2 decades. The reason the greats are the greats is because they stand the test of time. Also, it's just a guideline and their opinions but as a film geek, I feel like every movie on the list is worth watching but definitely that top 25

We agree to disagree a lot of these film critics are older and are just biased towards older movies. Also at this point these movies have been held to such a high standard that dudes who never even seen them have them in their top 20. That type of shyt is unacceptable to me. Just accepting something as a classic without ever watching it and formulating your own stance disgust me...same with music.

Is Illmatic a classic? Erick B/Rakim? I dunno never listen to those records so you'll never find me saying their classic or speaking on that shyt at all.
 
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Yeah we just disagree on titanic breh. Like how can you be mad at a greatest of list for naming godfather 1 or 2 and citizen Kane? Like I said greatness stands the test of time. Titanic has never hit me the way it hit you so I don't see it as an oversight. If those three movies or goodfellas wasn't on the list that would be an oversight.

how many movies have stood the test of time better than wizard of oz? better than star wars?

people can name every character in those movies.
 

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We agree to disagree a lot of these film critics are older and are just biased towards older movies. Also at this point these movies have been held to such a high standard that dudes who never even seen them have them in their top 20. That type of shyt is unacceptable to me. Just accepting something as a classic without ever watching it and formulating your own stance disgust me...same with music.

Is Illmatic a classic? Erick B/Rakim? I dunno never listen to those records so you'll never find me saying their classic or speaking on that shyt at all.

Why have you never heard illmatic or any Eric b and rakim? I don't believe that you have to be old to rank stuff high. You can always go back and listen to stuff you missed which is why I say illmatic is a classic and one of the greatest albums ever.

It's the job of a critic to do the history that you and I don't have to but I also feel like if you're a fan of any art form you do yourself a disservice by not doing the history. I'm listening to a podcast right now and the hosts are early 30s. Like 32 and 33 but when they talk about their greatest movies ever it's a wide range of movies and a lot of them are older than them. Way older. They took it upon themselves to explore film not just see film as something that existed in concurrence with their existence.
how many movies have stood the test of time better than wizard of oz? better than star wars?

people can name every character in those movies.

Godfather. Godfather 2. Goodfellas. Citizen Kane. Do the right thing. Breh you're acting like those movies aren't represented. Star Wars is a bigger movie than the godfather. It's huge but there's no way I can say with a straight film it's the better movie. Same with goodfellas or do the right thing or citizen Kane.
 
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Godfather. Godfather 2. Goodfellas. Citizen Kane. Do the right thing. Breh you're acting like those movies aren't represented. Star Wars is a bigger movie than the godfather. It's huge but there's no way I can say with a straight film it's the better movie. Same with goodfellas or do the right thing or citizen Kane.

why? because it's fantasy? because it's accessible to children?

luckily we live in a world where we don't have to choose, but to say star wars don't belong to sit at the table with any of those movies is crazy to me.

and if we're just going on pure greatness, none of those movies have come close to achieving more.
 

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why? because it's fantasy? because it's accessible to children?

luckily we live in a world where we don't have to choose, but to say star wars don't belong to sit at the table with any of those movies is crazy to me.

and if we're just going on pure greatness, none of those movies have come close to achieving more.

Breh lol its sitting at the table. I simply said I got no problem with it not being top 25.

And to me those movies are better because they're written better acted better have deeper meanings and there's just more to them for me. I can love Star Wars as much as I love the godfather but I know which one is my favorite movie of all time and which one I think is the greatest movie ever made. They both mean a lot to me but godfather just means more. I can't speak for anyone not me as to why they'd put it ahead of Star Wars but I can speak for me
 

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*sees dark knight made it*

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