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This. Cornette has said the same thing on his podcast routinely over the last few years.
Are we in the dark ages of wrestling?
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Saysumthinfunnymike
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Lol @ blaming women. Some of the women ARE more engaging than the men. Bianca is the best babyface WWE has right now. That's just the truth of the matter..
But the writing all over the place is very uninspiring. Vince pushing his pet projects getting old.. nobody really cares about Theory etc. At least not yet.
Tony not much better at the moment because he's going full indy. You can't push O'Reilly over say Team Tazz and believe that's gonna go anywhere..
There's a reason why Cole and O'Reilly never drew a dime. They are boring as hell.
But the writing all over the place is very uninspiring. Vince pushing his pet projects getting old.. nobody really cares about Theory etc. At least not yet.
Tony not much better at the moment because he's going full indy. You can't push O'Reilly over say Team Tazz and believe that's gonna go anywhere..
There's a reason why Cole and O'Reilly never drew a dime. They are boring as hell.
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Spot on.
Wrestling these days is mostly wrestling nerds catering to what other wrestling nerds wanna see. It’s one of the main reasons all the booking in aew is so telegraphed. Don’t get me wrong though, some cool shyt happens every once in a while but for the most part it’s just all fan service for hardcore wrestling fans.
Yes 
. I don't give a single goddamn of what the diehards say, when my own wife like:
That's a damn problem coming from the days of Bryan winning the belts, Shield killing shyt, and even CeGOAT taking a L from Bork. We are in a timeframe where it is not cool to be a wrestling fan from all angles. I blame the pandemic because it was the final nail in the coffin. Look at the big picture:
I'm sorry to say it but wrestling is dying and damn near pushing up daisy. Nothing will restore the feeling outside of gifs, a 5 star match, and Meltz nutting all over the Observer. Nothing will come close to the golden years and even the indie years. We just relics to the stale product that the dealers will never switch up.
Cold times friends. LU tried to save the industry and we took the shyt for granted.
. I don't give a single goddamn of what the diehards say, when my own wife like:
That's a damn problem coming from the days of Bryan winning the belts, Shield killing shyt, and even CeGOAT taking a L from Bork. We are in a timeframe where it is not cool to be a wrestling fan from all angles. I blame the pandemic because it was the final nail in the coffin. Look at the big picture:
- Attendance been downbad besides the usual big 4 and occasional event specials
- Most of the remaining wrestling fans moved on in favor of diehards, neckbeards, and weirdos
- Casuals will not touch this shyt with a 30 foot pole
- Even overseas promotions are struggling
I'm sorry to say it but wrestling is dying and damn near pushing up daisy. Nothing will restore the feeling outside of gifs, a 5 star match, and Meltz nutting all over the Observer. Nothing will come close to the golden years and even the indie years. We just relics to the stale product that the dealers will never switch up.
Cold times friends
. LU tried to save the industry and we took the shyt for granted.
YakSpiller
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Yes. It’s pretty much unwatchable.
I have to disagree because the female wrestlers are sometimes the most interesting part of the card. I think the issue for WWE for example is they have too much wrestling and fill out shows with recycled content. Then with AEW they started off hot, but can clearly see Tony is in over his head with booking and there aren't many segments to be invested in. I think the investment is what's lost in wrestling today because there aren't many characters and storylines to make a person stay invested in.
Funny you post this, I was watching the And 1 30 for 30 and the NBA dudes hit the nail on the head that the And 1 brehs were doing the fukking most on the court. They would get their asses bust on the big leagues. Now you have And 1 brehs trying to dictate the business for the worst and wondering why the legit fan said fukk this
. Wrestling is all theatrics with a twang of sport. We know the shyt is fake, so don't treat us like we are idiots about the ordeal. I get aggy when I see "4th wall" bullshyt happening, but folks want to shyt on Russo who peep game when the jig was up. Then you have these dweeb Gamestop rep looking wrestlers talking about video games and doing trampoline moves to a bunch of smelly stinky non fukk given miserable non growing up neckbeards.What part of the game is this
? A part of the issue is that some of us are to blame because we fed into what Phil was saying back in the day about muscle bound wrestlers with limited movesets. Instead of seeing the fact that personality>>>>>movesets. How am I suppose to take a skinny ass dude with chains choking out wrestlers seriously over a strong ass wrestler that put the fear of God into wrestlers?We killed this business more than the promoters, the drugs, and the years because we still trying to figure it out if it's "Oochie Wally Wally or is it One Mic"
this is a good analogy because And-1 is like "flippy shyt". It's perfect.
this is a good analogy because And-1 is like "flippy shyt". It's perfect.
Breh when you think about it And 1 was like the ECW of Basketball from the copyrighted music, the underground approach, the marks, star power checking for the product, and one dude that actually made it successfully the big leagues (Skip to My Lou=RVD). It was cool in the 2000s when it was all flippy shyt= actual sport, but once you get old that shyt looks dated as hell and maybe just maybe, we want a damn basketball game without the extra shyt. Don't get me wrong, I mark out over a twang of flippy shyt, but once it becomes the focal point of a promotion, that is a problem when you have MJF having all eyes on the product with words versus two dudes trying to kill each other.
Balance breh...balance
Saysumthinfunnymike
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i was watching the game and forgot RAW was on and then remembered but never flipped over to it. Wrestling def not hittin
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Pro-Wrestling had two Golden Ages (80s and mid-late 90s). Unfortunately all goods things must come to an end. So yes, we are in the dark ages in wrestling and have been for quite some time now.
Wrestling right now is like if rap was mostly dominated by the swagless lyrical miracle dudes that can rhyme a bunch of syllables but can't make an entertaining song to save their lives.
In WWE feuds are mostly just a series of rematches with zero stakes. Because there's no motive for anything happening outside of championships, except that none of them matter except for the top championship, and nothing involving that matters either because no one is ever made to look credible outside of one or two people at a time. Whenever it looks like they're about to change course, it always gets squandered and back to the status quo within a month. Any angle that isn't just a series of meaningless matches usually involves some stupid comedy shyt or talk show segments.
AEW on the other hand will do some shyt like two guys have a match, shyt talk each other a couple weeks, and then their next match will be some shyt like "Electrified Barbed Wire Cage Match", just wildly escalated for no reason. It's as if they're using these matches to overcompensate for the lack of charisma and personality that the wrestlers today have.
Speaking of which, most of the roster in both companies have the personality of a doorknob. Most of them come off as soft or as geeks. Characters are bland and lack any intensity. A lot of times they'll try to force it by shouting, sprinkling in the word "shyt" in a promo, or calling the opponent a bytch, but it never comes off naturally. And the ones that do have an interesting personality are often further down the card than they should be. I'm not gonna get into WWE because nothing matters there, but in AEW, there's no reason someone like Hook should be in a comedy tag team doing pre-show matches. The battle royale from last week, you had Yuta, Swerve, Hobbs, and Andrade in the final six, but instead we get bland ass Kyle O'Reilly as the winner. All the in-ring talent in the world doesn't matter if I couldn't give two shyts to see you in the first place.
And on the subject of the in-ring action, everyone claims it's the best it's ever been, but it's rare to see a match these days without the same overused and obviously telegraphed high spots: flips, dives to outside, throwing someone into a barricade, or the worst one of all, someone dropping their back or their ass onto the apron. Why everyone keeps insisting on risking fukking up their back/spine like that is beyond me. It's like all most of the wrestlers care about is getting a "this is awesome" chant rather than telling a meaningful or entertaining story.
TL;DR: Entertainment value is lacking, everyone is a dork, the matches rely too much on high spots. Obviously there are exceptions to everything I just typed.
In WWE feuds are mostly just a series of rematches with zero stakes. Because there's no motive for anything happening outside of championships, except that none of them matter except for the top championship, and nothing involving that matters either because no one is ever made to look credible outside of one or two people at a time. Whenever it looks like they're about to change course, it always gets squandered and back to the status quo within a month. Any angle that isn't just a series of meaningless matches usually involves some stupid comedy shyt or talk show segments.
AEW on the other hand will do some shyt like two guys have a match, shyt talk each other a couple weeks, and then their next match will be some shyt like "Electrified Barbed Wire Cage Match", just wildly escalated for no reason. It's as if they're using these matches to overcompensate for the lack of charisma and personality that the wrestlers today have.
Speaking of which, most of the roster in both companies have the personality of a doorknob. Most of them come off as soft or as geeks. Characters are bland and lack any intensity. A lot of times they'll try to force it by shouting, sprinkling in the word "shyt" in a promo, or calling the opponent a bytch, but it never comes off naturally. And the ones that do have an interesting personality are often further down the card than they should be. I'm not gonna get into WWE because nothing matters there, but in AEW, there's no reason someone like Hook should be in a comedy tag team doing pre-show matches. The battle royale from last week, you had Yuta, Swerve, Hobbs, and Andrade in the final six, but instead we get bland ass Kyle O'Reilly as the winner. All the in-ring talent in the world doesn't matter if I couldn't give two shyts to see you in the first place.
And on the subject of the in-ring action, everyone claims it's the best it's ever been, but it's rare to see a match these days without the same overused and obviously telegraphed high spots: flips, dives to outside, throwing someone into a barricade, or the worst one of all, someone dropping their back or their ass onto the apron. Why everyone keeps insisting on risking fukking up their back/spine like that is beyond me. It's like all most of the wrestlers care about is getting a "this is awesome" chant rather than telling a meaningful or entertaining story.
TL;DR: Entertainment value is lacking, everyone is a dork, the matches rely too much on high spots. Obviously there are exceptions to everything I just typed.
