"Are 'URBAN' Public Schools FAILING BLACK Kids Or Is It The Parents?"

[DLo]

The schools suck and the parents aren't holding the administration accountable. Even the people that graduate from City schools get schools are not prepared for college curriculums

 

[staticshock]

so you voting republican?

Let me tell you about a story of segregation in Alabama. A recent city in Birmingham, AL won a court case to separate themselves from jefferson county so they wouldn't have to share their income and students with the greater birmingham area. They literally wanted their tax dollars to not go to black communities.

The reason is simple. You ever heard of "broken windows?"

It is a policy cops use that is actually a good policy IN THEORY but it must be done BY THE GOVERNMENT and not the police.

The idea is that if you ignore a broken window, other small things will start to go wrong, and eventually, major issues will arise, but it could have all been stopped by fixing a cheap ass window instead of ignoring it.

That is american public schools IN BLACK COMMUNITIES. Go to a public school in a white district and watch even the POOREST WHITE COMMUNITIES have amazing schools with all the bells and whistles. If you live in the slums, you expect a slum life. All the parenting in the world will not stop a million influencers around you the second you walk out the door. Most people are stupid and followers. Thus, most people will be a product of their environment.

Parenting is the SMALLEST factor in a child's success.

that deserves a neg..Parenting is the biggest factor in a childs life.

Good Parents will make a bad school good and a good school great.

Always.

correct!

These days most parents don't even fully raise their kids, technology does. Got 4 year olds knowing how to fully operate a smartphone.

Education starts in the home. Especially in the early years when good habits are formed. But that doesn't mean that it has to stop or things can't change. My homegirl decided to put her daughter in a high school a bit further away since the one near her where my brother went, as well as her, her brother, and her niece, wasn't too great of a school. So instead of going to a bad school, she got sent to a better one. Both schools have almost 50% Hispanic kids which she is. While the one she goes to is 40 to 10 white to black and the other one is the opposite but that's due to the area it's in. Both are in the suburbs so not like either school is in a bad area. Ok so going to a better school would guarantee better results right? WRONG!! This girl already done got like two F's on her report card and she just started. I only got one F my entire high school career and that was algebra senior year and I think it was on an interim report.

Morale of the story is, you can put any kid in the most prestigious private school, you can even send them to Harvard. But if the willingness to learn and the education in the home isn't correct, then you ain't doing shyt for them. I'm doing my best to teach my child if and when I have one, before they go to school so they'll be ready. Can't be raising no fools out here.

REPPED!!
I teach fourth grade in inner city Atlanta..kids cant do basic math or reading but they damn sure know how to use a tablet and they have FB, IG and some app called musically. and dont get me started on fukking Fortnight

then when I have morning duty in front of the school letting kids out of the cars, some parents are playing 21 Savage or some other poison ass music early in the morning all loud with their kids in the car.

i've long thought that our public schools should be federally run rather than letting state/local governments run them as a first step.

there is no easy answer to any of this shyt though. throwing money at the problem isn't really the answer either according to a lot of shyt i've seen.

however it definitely doesn't hurt for schools that are completely underfunded and located somewhere with a weak tax base.

Henry County on the southside of Atlanta has a weak tax base..teachers there are some of the lowest paid in the state. I could never work there, but folks love it because the kids there know how to act and education is stressed in the home.

School system. Point blank period.

Parents are an ineffective scapegoat.
Students spend 180 days, 8 hrs a day, 5 days a week in school away from their parents. They spend more time in their key developmental years with someone else per week than they do with their parents.

Their personalities, inspirations, aspirations, knowledge, dispositions and so much more are shaped by the school environment. The lessons you learn from school are far different from your home and in a lot of cases more pervasive. I've seen kids from great families go through a school system and fail.

Your origin is not your destiny. People move across the country and across continents for access to education b/c it's that important.

There have been changes in our educational system that has rendered it toxic and useless for most students primarily male students.

1.)The shift from trades to overemphasis on higher ed.,
2.) shift from authentic learning experiences to overemphasis on test-taking and kill and drill instructional methods,
3.) elimination of the arts, issues with cultural incongruency from having all white female teachers instructing blk kids,
4.) defunding high needs schools,
5.) nepotism in electing principals and school leadership,
6.) racist rezoning laws...
7.) lack of culturally responsive curriculum...
8.) adoption of ineffective teaching methods and pedagogy in high need schools. (I.e. Shift from decoding and building phonemic awareness in students to having them memorize sight words---well guess what happens when Bobby runs into a word like "impecunious" and he doesn't know how to sound it out.)

I hate having these discussions because none of the shyt above gets mentioned b/c people just like trying to feel superior to poor hard working parents who do love and support their kids and send them to school expecting them to receive real training, but all their kids get is worksheets and told to shut up.

The school system is what you make it. if kids arent being pushed at home, being told to do the right thing at school and if education isnt a priority then its a bad school day for everyone.

idk where yall are from but in atlanta ive never seen more than 4-6 white teachers at majority black schools. white teachers here mostly work in rural areas and the parts of town with the most white people because they cant deal with the attitude black kids have

I believe any one who takes a job in those kind of schools typically wants to be there, the students aren't prepared when they start school and the parents aren't involved enough.
Even when they hire TFA type teachers they generally have good intentions even if they are naive.

repped

Its hell teaching in the inner city..all you wanna do is inspire and motivate, but when you have kids who come in every day who dont give a fukk and all they want to talk about are video games and fighting it makes it hard. I got hired to work in diverse school in a wealthy part of Atlanta but I eventually turned it down to work in a low income area to work with OUR kids cause they need a positive male role model more than kids on the northside of the city.

Every time I have to break up a fight or retrain a kid I think "damn I could be teaching in a stress free environment" but for all the bad kids there are some sweet ones who want to learn and thats who I go to work for every day





to summarize, your school is what you make it. you can go to an underfunded school, but if you come from a good home environment you will do good and make something of yourself. The school system I graduated from (Clayton County Public Schools..other Atlanta folks can tell yall about it) is underfunded and in a high crime area, but I graduated with folks who are now doctors, lawyers, teachers like myself and other things.

Douglass High in Bankhead, probably the most crime ridden part of Atlanta has a partnership with the University of Florida and they send kids there every year. The kids who come from good homes and who want to succeed end up going there because they are being pushed at home to do right in school.

it all starts at home folks

 

[NinoBrown]

Blame is really on schools, I've met many 20 year-olds and teens who are unable to hold an intelligent conversation or express themselves in a articulate manner.

Schools are all about testing and less about critical analysis and thinking.

When it is all said and done, you have man/woman-children with a regressed intellect with 40k in student loans and no aspirations besides working at Applebee's and "maybe going back to Grad School"...

Parents are on auto-pilot as both have to work in order to survive, so they trust the schools to do it all...

 

[mannyrs13]

@staticshock completely agree.

Especially on the fortnite. My "niece" is obsessed with that game. Now her mom says that her issue is she doesn't turn in her assignments, so who knows if she does them or not. Anyways, that damn fortnite is like brainwashing her and all of these kids. She can easily do the dumb dances and knows the map like the back of her hand. But when it comes to schoolwork, that doesn't seem to be a priority for her. Her parents got a couple of toddlers that they gotta worry way more about especially being small still. So I know it must be rough on her for her little brother and sister to be getting most of the attention, but all her parents, her family, and me, want is for her to do better in school. But of course she chooses to slack off. And I agree with the music. Can't say she gets it from her mom since her mom mostly be listening to some reggaeton and Cardi B, not really my cup of tea. Her daughter be listening to some weird ass shyt like that xxxtentacion guy who died and all these other weird ass people and lyrics. Such morbid music that I was like no wonder she was having suicidal thoughts a few months back. This poison they be listening to is corrupting the kids minds.

But I do see firsthand how the difference between parenting works especially on opposite sides of the income scale. Not to say that income or even race determines parenting, but it does in the example I see. My homegirl and her husband are considered lower class. She got a small work from home job, my boy has a delivery driver job for a well-known food company. They living check to check and struggling to make ends meet. High rent and debt. They both Hispanic. So you have Hispanic and low class. Now I don't know if things changed since I don't go over much these days cuz of work, but I rarely ever saw her helping her daughter with any school work of any kind. I remember it used to be me, her husband, or her brother helping this girl with homework when she was like in elementary school. My homegirl wasn't really too hands-on with her daughter. Guess that could contribute to her doing bad in school.

Now for the opposite side. I'm at my boys house right now. Him and his girl are well off, at least considering for down here. My boy works for a national gym company in the QA department, his girl was a nurse but now does something different, still medical related. They're both white. Anyways, his son is like in kindergarten and I don't come over here as often as my other friends house but I see his girl always on top of his child and helping him with his reading. No matter how much this little boy wants to whine and play video games or not study as much.

Of course kids will be kids and a six year old isn't gonna be as attentive as a high schooler but still. You gotta be on top of them whether they starting their education or ending it. All it takes is an hour a day, maybe even down to a half hour or fifteen minutes as they get older, but just taking an interest in your kids education can do wonders for them. But of course my homegirl more concerned with social media and gossip. Especially when I go on FB, ig, and snap and it's the same old foolishness. A child is like an investment, gotta monitor their growth and it'll pay off. Lord knows I regret not doing my best in school, especially in my later years. But it's never too late to educate oneself tho.

I salute you for the work you do. I know it must be tough.