Are people on thecoli actually fighting for the progression of Black America.....

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You kiss white people's asses and hold the microscope only on black people, especially on those who don't take the high road when assaulted by a white.

If you really are black, you're a coward and a bytch ass sambo. Go somewhere else.
This is really what it comes down to. Dude is inconsistent.
 

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I am only relaying what I know based on other people in those fields. It is a fact that that social workers a low-skilled (why not learn how to basket weave? At least you can do something with that). It is a fact that they have little upward mobility in regards to wealth building. But by all means become one. Be beholden to whites your whole life. I am glad I didn't make that mistake.
I know what's best for Black males and females seeing that I live in the real world and am not clouded by naive thoughts. That, and I also tend to read more books. You asked, "... actually fighting for the progression of Black America", and me pointing out that becoming a social worker is signing your life away to bureaucratic work and always being an employee, is apart of me fighting for Black progression.

Hopefully other young kids read this and shy away from what you're doing, and actually try to be something more than a lackey to white people.



Like I said in various other threads, including that one, opinions can change overnight. I don't really care how many Black people approve of interracial marriage today. If tomorrow I employ 1 million of them, I can probably change the opinion of 200k of them. That will have a cascading effect. Public opinion means nothing really. It only corresponds to various biases of those that control the public opinion. This has been shown case study after case study.

Sort of like the study of Black males and females being viewed less attractive where it concerns dating/marriage. If I ask a white person, "do you support interracial marriage", the likely answer will be yes seeing that such a person doesn't want to come off as rude or insensitive, or s/he truly believe it. Take that same white person, and I doubt he/she would date a Black person or consider dating a Black person simply based off of race/skin alone. The subconscious thoughts influence the actions, and just so happens that Black people are viewed as less, are seen as less, and are valued to be less than whites. That is why you see a constant trend no matter what people say in regards to social issues. Whites stick with whites, Blacks stick with Blacks, etc... And to be completely honest, a lot of trashy, low-down white females date Black males. And it just so happens to be more white females that are trashy since the majority of the country is white.

So the asking point was, "are we going to be seen as a fringe group that will be ignored?" No, not amongst Blacks. The Economist (I believe) released an article this year detailing that Black millennials and up are going to see a DECLINE in wealth and earning potential than other races. In other words, as Dr. Claude Anderson put it, Blacks will be made into a permanent underclass in America. So interracial marriages will actually plummet seeing that the already undesirable Blacks are going to be even more undesirable in the eyes of the public. We will be seen as more of a nuisance than anything else.

One of the reasons for this projection by economists and the like is due to, in my opinion, lack of fathers and foolishness. The males would rather undertake the most low-skilled, easiest of tasks than try to do something that requires effort. This springs from lack of fatherhood and more feminine energy in the home.

"I am not doing it for the money"? Remember that line when you are 35 yrs old. Everything in this life is about resources/money. You want to help people but you failed at realizing the basics of helping people. People need resources to help them out of their downtrodden situation. A wealthy person can be a better social worker than you simply because he/she can PRODUCE more than you can, he/she can reach a lot more people and such a person isn't bound by the hands of an employer or bureaucratic system. Not to mention such a person can INFLUENCE more people.

Everything is about wealth/money because that is a resource, and life depends on resources. You lack the basics and are ardently defiant that you would rather stick to your own, foolish opinion, than listen to others.
I've never claimed to be fighting for the progression of Black Americans on this site on the level that you're trying to act like I am so I can't be held to that standard.
I've repeatedly said the extent of any "activism" I do is letting people know about black history when I can an arguing against racism and racial ignorance when I can which is all I plan to do for the near future.
That was just an example given to him to answer his question as a possible avenue I could take based on my schooling, not as a result of a career as a social worker. Because like I mentioned in that post it's possible to take the schooling path to become a social worker and find a different avenue of work.
And social work is a valuable profession that i've personally seen the worth of even if you think it's just being a lackey for white people so
:camby:with that bullshyt, some of the best black people I know are social workers and you can't just diminish their life's work just because you think it's absurd for black people to be government employees.
I'm not going to retread on the topic of interracial relationships again, you aren't telling me anything I don't know or at least haven't considered. We just take a different outlook on how the acceptance of interracial relationships and the amount of people in interracial relationships and the interracial babies being born will affect interracial dating and perception of black and white people in the future and whether or not the stance thecoli takes on it would push people away.
And once again you have it wrong. I said I'm not going to choose a career JUST because it will make me money, meaning that money is a priority but isn't the only one and after measuring my skills, interests, and history with help from multiple adults I trust more than you I decided that this would be my proper career path.
Just because you're some STEM elitist that doesn't mean people can't make a decent living in other professions.
I chose this because the schooling I get could open up different options for me than being a social worker and if I do choose to become a social worker then I could make a decent living, it's not like i'm trying to get a degree in acting or something.
But yes it's the equivalent of basket weaving.
And the rest of your post is irrelevant to the content of mine and made up of baseless assumptions.
I don't see how you can take me not wanting to base the rest of my life solely on money and instead wanting to balance it on what I personally believe i'm capable, am interested in, is the most reasonable path for me based on time and money, and can make me a decent living.
And then turn it into me not understanding the lack of agency that comes when a community lacks the money needed to influence legislation and help social mobility in a capitalistic society.
And i'm not saying that I completely do because I'm a new college student, only eighteen years old, and a few Dr.Claude Anderson videos from thecoli aren't equivalent to extensive readings or lectures.
But I do know some things about it and my political beliefs reflect that as well does a post I made earlier in this thread before you mentioned it and so does many other things that I really don't care to mention right now because I need to go to sleep.
Not everyone is built for making a Homeboys industry.
(Also there's community development social work which at least reflects some of what you're saying)
The next time you come into a thread of mine either reply to me either reply to me based on the actual content of my posts or go suck a cock and don't reply at all.
I don't need some coli poster to try and father me.
:russ: At these nikkas getting bodied by a 18 year old.

I don't even agree with him on everything, but I absolutely respect the fact he stands tall and doesn't let nobody try to use age to box him in, especially on his career choice. :salute:Kudos yung brogod.

:heh: And @ that bytch ass nikka @1984. We seen how you truly feel about black people you coward ass ":scusthov: eww, you're blocked." fukkboy.
People think that if you're young an have the audacity to have an opinion you're inherently acting as though you know everything.
I'm just a person with an opinion and by conversing with people now I can be more well rounded as I grow older and I learn more and my views change.
 

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I hate how I get negged when I disagree with something a black person did, like I have to support them no matter what, it's bullshyt
 

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I hate how I get negged when I disagree with something a black person did, like I have to support them no matter what, it's bullshyt
You're not innocent
You were arguing in favor of the officer who was manhandling that girl. :pacspit:
 

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You're not innocent
You were arguing in favor of the officer who was manhandling that girl. :pacspit:
How many times does she need to be asked to leave the room? That was the third person who asked her, how much of other people's time are we going to let one snotty kid waste? She had it coming
 

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(1) I've never claimed to be fighting for the progression of Black Americans on this site on the level that you're trying to act like I am so I can't be held to that standard.
I've repeatedly said the extent of any "activism" I do is letting people know about black history when I can an arguing against racism and racial ignorance when I can which is all I plan to do for the near future.
That was just an example given to him to answer his question as a possible avenue I could take based on my schooling, not as a result of a career as a social worker. Because like I mentioned in that post it's possible to take the schooling path to become a social worker and find a different avenue of work.
And social work is a valuable profession that i've personally seen the worth of even if you think it's just being a lackey for white people so
:camby:with that bullshyt, some of the best black people I know are social workers and (2) you can't just diminish their life's work just because you think it's absurd for black people to be government employees.


(1) To the bolded. I never claimed you were fighting for Black progression nor did I insinuate you were. In fact, I've stated plenty of times that your posts regarding Black issues are rather grating and naive at best.

(2) I can, simply based on reality. A social worker is nothing but a government worker. Equivalent to that of a mailman. But show me what the people you admire have made of themselves (I don't care for titles either).

And the rest of your post is irrelevant to the content of mine and made up of baseless assumptions.

I made assumptions based on your post, yes, but they were hardly baseless.

(1) A social workers median salary isn't topping $60k. I guess we have different perspectives on "decent" wage.

(2) There isn't much upward mobility as said before, and having virtually no skills (a fry cook at McDonald's has more skills) won't allow you to position yourself for a better career. You'd end up having to go back to school more than likely. Your salary will always fall short of your white counterparts, and it probably will be $55k mid-career (not taking into account inflation).

(3) I took (1) & (2) and formed my opinion of you which is mostly true. And being 18 isn't an excuse for not conducting proper research. I am 22, and when I was 18, I wasn't as naive.. Then again, let's make this about your post.

And then turn it into me not understanding the lack of agency that comes when a community lacks the money needed to influence legislation and help social mobility in a capitalistic society.
And i'm not saying that I completely do because I'm a new college student, only eighteen years old, and a few Dr.Claude Anderson videos from thecoli aren't equivalent to extensive readings or lectures.

Go read the Economist more often, or books in general. That is a good start.

Not everyone is built for making a Homeboys industry.

Probably not you, but most have the capacity to do so.

Just because you're some STEM elitist that doesn't mean people can't make a decent living in other professions.

I value STEM because that is where the country is moving (where an advanced society/people have always moved towards). Anyone choosing to attend college for subjects other than something related to the sciences (some liberal art focuses are fine given that you do graduate work and tack on math/statistics) or business, is wasting their time and money.

When choosing my path, I didn't listen to other people rather looked up data regarding professions, decided that there was no money in philosophy, and minored in it whilst majoring in a STEM field.

Lastly, I was using that post to try and speak to other Black folk, not necessarily you. You were just an example of what not to become or road to walk down as a young Black male. You aren't really doing anything worthwhile and your lack is certainly something that is going to catch up to you in a field that has a high burnout rate. You don't have a versatile skill-set, nor are thinking of versifying yourself either (taking a few courses in non-related STEM isn't being versatile either). Especially as the world moves more towards engineering and technology.

You are being the opposite of Black progression and if one Black male can read my post and see that, then my posts were worth-while.
 

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@Pifferry is a fakkit c00n.. No need to take him seriously, he doesn't even take himself seriously. :manny:

Just get your jokes in and make sure to tag him in every thread where his precious white man shows their true colors
 

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(1) To the bolded. I never claimed you were fighting for Black progression nor did I insinuate you were. In fact, I've stated plenty of times that your posts regarding Black issues are rather grating and naive at best.

(2) I can, simply based on reality. A social worker is nothing but a government worker. Equivalent to that of a mailman. But show me what the people you admire have made of themselves (I don't care for titles either).



I made assumptions based on your post, yes, but they were hardly baseless.

(1) A social workers median salary isn't topping $60k. I guess we have different perspectives on "decent" wage.

(2) There isn't much upward mobility as said before, and having virtually no skills (a fry cook at McDonald's has more skills) won't allow you to position yourself for a better career. You'd end up having to go back to school more than likely. Your salary will always fall short of your white counterparts, and it probably will be $55k mid-career (not taking into account inflation).

(3) I took (1) & (2) and formed my opinion of you which is mostly true. And being 18 isn't an excuse for not conducting proper research. I am 22, and when I was 18, I wasn't as naive.. Then again, let's make this about your post.



Go read the Economist more often, or books in general. That is a good start.



Probably not you, but most have the capacity to do so.



I value STEM because that is where the country is moving (where an advanced society/people have always moved towards). Anyone choosing to attend college for subjects other than something related to the sciences (some liberal art focuses are fine given that you do graduate work and tack on math/statistics) or business, is wasting their time and money.

When choosing my path, I didn't listen to other people rather looked up data regarding professions, decided that there was no money in philosophy, and minored in it whilst majoring in a STEM field.

Lastly, I was using that post to try and speak to other Black folk, not necessarily you. You were just an example of what not to become or road to walk down as a young Black male. You aren't really doing anything worthwhile and your lack is certainly something that is going to catch up to you in a field that has a high burnout rate. You don't have a versatile skill-set, nor are thinking of versifying yourself either (taking a few courses in non-related STEM isn't being versatile either). Especially as the world moves more towards engineering and technology.

You are being the opposite of Black progression and if one Black male can read my post and see that, then my posts were worth-while.
1)I wasnt seriously using my age as an excuse for a lack of knowledge hence why after I said that I went on the point out ways in which I was knowledgeable about the need for money and businesses for employing disenfranchised people in gaining political influence/agency/resources and improving the areas they live in/increasing upward social mobility.
Like Daenerys saying “Im a little girl and know little in the ways of war” but then taking over an entire city except on an infinitely lesser scale.
I referenced Homeboy Industries as a loose example on the power of a community ran business (though its ran by someone who came into the community to help, focuses solely on the lives of the people their on a personal level, not through any of the things Claude Anderson describes, and has the salary paid for by outside business among other things).
Otherwise I wouldnt engage in discussion with you in the first place.
When choosing my career path I took aptitude tests, talked with people in the profession, looked up employment possibilities, expected earning, the job outlook in years to come, and decided that this was best for me.
So your best bet would be to shut the fukk up and stop judging people for a reasonable career/education based choice.
The rest im not going to address, its a waste of time.
 

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@Pifferry

To your last part:

Like most people on this site want you to shut up speaking on Black issues?

If you're breaking down now, on a forum no less, social work isn't going to work out for you either. You are cracking easily (swearing and behaving belligerantly). Little worldly experience will do that to you.

Also, I do and will continue to judge. It's part of human nature to assess the value of 'things' and work. As I've been saying, pick up a book some time.
 

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I don't think it's so much a lack of fighting for progress as much as it is, that people have different ideas of what it is to progress as a people and that can vary based on the individual experiences of a particular poster. If someone is unemployed then progress might be flipping burgers at Burger King, if it's a college educated person, it may be finding a way off the hamster wheel and getting their own business.
 

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People do alot of talking from the jump, i dont expect anyone to really care if they sitting on forums all day instead of talking to the youth.:manny:
Save the KIDS!:blessed:
 
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I'm talking about making black heroes on par with Batman, Captain America, etc. I don't want a little known, indie hero. I want him/her to have movies, tv shows, toy lines, costumes, etc.
holy shyt, how dope would an avengers type movie be with black heros
people would go crazy :wow:
 

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Sees thread title :ehh:

Sees thread creator :dead:


Would be like if Strawberry made a thread about the importance of not letting white people call you a "******"

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