Are Asian Dudes Mad?

[Megatron Island]

You can blame hollywood for a lot of that one

types all around in the movies and tv

I blame Hollywood, but also those dorks who take the roles. Sadly, Off-screen they don't seem too far from it either.

 

[Megatron Island]

Well, I'm Asian (Korean to be exact) and I couldn't give a flying f about Asian females dating white/black. My baby moms is a black female and we're engaged. I mean y'all can sit here and type all you want about Asian dudes getting mad at Asians chicks stepping out and how we get so damn upset when in reality nobody gets angrier than a black male at seeing a black female with a dude outside the race. Me and my baby moms, we've heard it all, she's a traitor, a sellout c00n bytch, 'I'd fukk the shyt out that bytch'. It's to a point where we're just like and KIM.


And before y'all ask, yeah I'm pretty paid considering my age.

*waits for the posts*

Come on man.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I blame Hollywood, but also those dorks who take the roles. Sadly, Off-screen they don't seem too far from it either.

I mean we all know this stereotype is true to an extent. Go look at the asian kids on your average college campus and most of them are insular, boring, physically weak, safe enslaved to the grind people....

The people who take the roles are really no different from other minorities in the acting biz; for east asians especially its basically you gotta be in a krotty movie or you're a nerd. But look at how Black people are portrayed in hollywood, and mexicans.... Basically unless you look white they're gonna put you in some stereotypical shyt.

Come on man.

I gotta agree. Asians are the #1 saltiest about out of race relations.

 

[bmoxover]

You can blame hollywood for a lot of that one

types all around in the movies and tv

This. I had a Chinese roommate in college and we spoke at length about this. The Asian male is either the Kung fu master or the socially inept nerd, both a nice thick accent. The black male has a legitimate beef with Hollywood as they are often depicted as the pimp, hustler, thug, but at the very least at least y'all get roles. Has there ever been a significant AA male actor to played a significant role in a good movie? shyt, they even take Asian themed movies and cast all the characters white! So, we still got a ways to go before we're properly represented in the media.

 

[bmoxover]

Come on man.

I'm strictly speaking from my experience here breh.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

They might be annoyed, but I doubt they are angry.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

This. I had a Chinese roommate in college and we spoke at length about this. The Asian male is either the Kung fu master or the socially inept nerd, both a nice thick accent. The black male has a legitimate beef with Hollywood as they are often depicted as the pimp, hustler, thug, but at the very least at least y'all get roles. Has there ever been a significant AA male actor to played a significant role in a good movie? shyt, they even take Asian themed movies and cast all the characters white! So, we still got a ways to go before we're properly represented in the media.

That shyt is so offensive

I'm not even japanese but the Last Samurai had me the whole time


half of asia pertinent movies from hollywood are on some whiteboy self-insertion fantasy shyt.

No Asian american has any chance of getting a lead in a movie that isnt martial arts or Harold and Kumar in today's industry.

 

[bmoxover]

That shyt is so offensive

I'm not even japanese but the Last Samurai had me the whole time


half of asia pertinent movies from hollywood are on some whiteboy self-insertion fantasy shyt.

No Asian american has any chance of getting a lead in a movie that isnt martial arts or Harold and Kumar in today's industry.

The Last Airbender? I remember watching the trailer and thinking this looks kinda cool. Then they zoomed in on Aang's face and it's a... white boy?

They're shooting a live action version of Akira, keeping the original Japanese names but casting white characters.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

The Last Airbender? I remember watching the trailer and thinking this looks kinda cool. Then they zoomed in on Aang's face and it's a... white boy?

They're shooting a live action version of Akira, keeping the original Japanese names but casting white characters.

Im not watching that shyt for that reason alone. Calling Leonardo DiCaprio Tetsuo.?

theyre going to do the same with Death note as well I believe....

I bet M Night had no problem casting all the brown people and asians in avatar as white people. dude is status.

 

[Megatron Island]

This. I had a Chinese roommate in college and we spoke at length about this. The Asian male is either the Kung fu master or the socially inept nerd, both a nice thick accent. The black male has a legitimate beef with Hollywood as they are often depicted as the pimp, hustler, thug, but at the very least at least y'all get roles. Has there ever been a significant AA male actor to played a significant role in a good movie? shyt, they even take Asian themed movies and cast all the characters white! So, we still got a ways to go before we're properly represented in the media.

Agree with you here, pretty much you and Kool are saying the same thing. It's just unfortunate that Hollywood doesn't care. Blacks continue to fight for more than "just getting roles," and a handful of actors have broken through, but redundant in the vast comparison. It's like Hollywood is trolling.

I'm strictly speaking from my experience here breh.

I'm sure you are, but fighting fire with fire tends to potentially open up the floodgates.

I mean we all know this stereotype is true to an extent. Go look at the asian kids on your average college campus and most of them are insular, boring, physically weak, safe enslaved to the grind people....

The people who take the roles are really no different from other minorities in the acting biz; for east asians especially its basically you gotta be in a krotty movie or you're a nerd. But look at how Black people are portrayed in hollywood, and mexicans.... Basically unless you look white they're gonna put you in some stereotypical shyt.

I agree 100% that you have to , but there's just no push nor backing for different roles. You look at Black actors/actresses taking certain roles and at least there is somebody to speak up about it. Even for Viola Davis getting Oscar buzz there was a group and general internet revolt against her because she played a some kind of servant (never saw the mocie, so I don't know how exact this is). Asians get upset but don't follow through with any noise usually.

I see where you're coming from though. For all "minorities" no matter how hard they've pushed so far, Hollywood doesn't care. Then the "priveleged" have nerve to say, "people complain too much."

 

[bmoxover]

Well, isn't it about time we fight 'fire with fire'? I mean the whole reason why Asians get so shytted on despite our successes is the fact we have this oh just let it slide mentality. Like I've always said if you have something to say just come out and say it, it's something that even my black homeboys even give me props for. If we don't speak up for ourselves who's going to? The old generation? We both know that shyt ain't gonna happen.

 

[Stuntone]

Yea those vienna sausage dikk nigg@s mad!

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Well, isn't it about time we fight 'fire with fire'? I mean the whole reason why Asians get so shytted on despite our successes is the fact we have this oh just let it slide mentality. Like I've always said if you have something to say just come out and say it, it's something that even my black homeboys even give me props for. If we don't speak up for ourselves who's going to? The old generation? We both know that shyt ain't gonna happen.

South and east asians lay down and take it because we kinda have it good right now. Unlike blacks, mexicans, arabs... We are not seen as a threat to anyone in any sense besides economics. We keep our heads down and get our work done, and build our communities, so its no surprise that we enjoy success overall.

The old generation wants us to do the same. Get a good job, keep out of trouble, and get married. Its just a product of old asian culture where everything is hierarchical and you arent allowed to express your individuality. They dont laud physical strength, outspokenness, or innovation in many ways, and this hurts asians in perception and performance.


People always say asians have it good but we are in the middle of the race war. We are used in the debate by both sides (whites vs. colored non asians) and delegitimized in the process. We are held up by whites as an example of what a "good immigrant can achieve if they pull up their bootstraps", and thus are often despised by other minorities as a result of that seeming favor. At the same time minorities dont recognize our struggles, or accuse us SOMETIMES rightfully of uncle tomming.

Further reading:

The issue that comes about when Asian-Americans have to confront issues of racism are twofold, one from other communities of color, and the other from American society in general.

From communities of color, often racism against Asian-Americans is not seen as valid, or not as extreme because there has never been the stigma violence behind it, or it is simply seen as "not as bad" as what has happened to other groups. But Asians in the United States have been the victims of anti-miscegenation laws, laws that prevented them from owning property or even large bills such as the Chinese exclusion act. As far as direct violence, the history of anti-Chinese lynchings in cities such as Denver and San Francisco are often over looked. Even modern day incidents, such as the murder of Vincent Chin are seen more as exceptions to racism/violence against Asians-Americans rather than a overall trend.

Also, the model minority issues often pits Asian-Americans against other ethnic groups. American society holds up Asian-Americans as an example of how an immigrant experience and how people of color have as much opportunity as other groups, which is simply not true. There are a variety of factors of why Asian immigration, especially since 1965 has been considered "successful" in comparison to the experience of other people of color in the United States. "Hey, if the Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese can come over and in one generation get their kids in college, whats going on black/latinos?" So within those communities, there is resentment towards Asian-Americans because it is perceived that Asian-Americans have it much easier, or "the good minorities."

Part of it Asian-America has done to itself. We have certainly pigeon-holed ourselves into that model minority role, because, its a pretty attractive place to be. Who doesn't want to be seen as smart, successful and relatively non-threatening? That role also supports the belief that America is a meritocracy. Asian-Americans keep their heads down, study hard, make money and achieve the "American Dream." Why wouldn't popular American society hold up that sort of work ethic, and success rate to demonstrate the best of what America can be?

That leads into the other part of why allegations and issues of racism that Asian-Americans bring up are delegitimized by both white people and other people of color. The great influx of Asian-Americans into the United States occurred after 1965. This was while the civil rights movement was growing and becoming a great social movement in the United States. For the most part, Asian-Americans were in 3 places, the West Coast, New York and Hawaii. Since the population was not spread out nationally the same way the African-American, and to a lesser extent, the Latino population, the face of Asian-America was largely absent from the civil rights struggle. So when Asian immigrants arrived, there was a perception that they thrived due to the social changes that were made. And often seen as benefitting without paying their "dues."

So one one hand, you have the communities of color, which endured incredible oppression and institutional racism to get place at the starting line, get "passed" by a recent immigrant group. And on the other hand, you have a greater American society that says, "Hey, we made these changes, and this one group is doing really well. Why are the rest of your still complaining?" It put Asian-Americans in an unenviable place in American racial politics.

So you have a group of immigrants in the United States, which is slowly dwarfing the population of 2nd, 3rd and even 4th generation Asian-Americans of Chinese and Japanese origin. Many of the immigrants are from countries, from which the US has military involvement with. So for 2 entire generations of Americans, Asians are seen as the "other." Whether that means easily identifiable foreigners, or potentially former enemies. And this generation of Americans have recently "gotten over" their own immigrant experience, where they are now truly feeling an ownership of America, and now consider themselves "American." The perpetual "other"-ness of Asians in America allows casual discrimination or institutional racism to be more socially acceptable. As in, "Why worry, those people don't even speak English, and I probably fought against them during the war."

So Asian-Americans, when they do have legitimate issues of racism and discrimination that face them, get reactions of, "Its not that bad, especially if you consider what has happened to African-Americans or Latinos." And this argument is especially prevalent in Southern California. Or, because Asian-Americans are still a growing group with no solid definition, as in we have 5th generation Asian-American as well as people who immigrated 3 months ago, America still treats us as "the other," and is dismissive of our issues.

And the reaction for a long time was, "Keep your head down, study hard, make money and Americans will respect you." But there are generations of Asian-Americans, who have read Ron Takaki, Maxine Hong-Kingston, Helen Zia, Carlos Bulosan, Frank Chin, Urvashi Viad, Frank Wu, David Henry Hwang, etc. who want a voice in American politics, and want to have a more active role for Asian-Americans politically and socially. The want you to remember the internment and Vincent Chin, they want you to know how fukked up it is when NBC Sports runs headlines like "Michelle Kwan Beaten By American Lipinski." When those voices are raised, people don't want to hear them. There are a lot of reasons for that. But because Asian-American issues have constantly be delegitimized, or marginalized by American society, or other communities of color, we are forced to elevate these incidents which affect our community.

 

[Stuntone]

 

[bmoxover]

Somebody catching feelings in here. It ain't me.

You can keep all them Asians chicks you posted. Not a single one I would bone. And btw 50's piece is Hispanic not Asian.