Arab slavers took more slaves than Americans (?)

[Poitier]

Arabs are variously mixed but they aren't "Pan Ethnic" at base. The J1 haplogroup is Near Eastern, not African. There is no such thing as a "black Arab" unless you're talking about East Africans, and then I think the Arabs were still to blame.

Most Arabs have admixture though.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

IMO there's no proof that Arabs took more slaves than the Europeans. There's way more African descendants in America alone than the Middle East. But more importantly Europeans had way more finance and resources to take more slaves than Arabs. And the Atlantic slave trade was able to continue longer because of that. Arabs were only really limited to the Swahili coast and they had to purchase the slaves.

 

[joeychizzle]

IMO there's no proof that Arabs took more slaves than the Europeans. There's way more African descendants in America alone than the Middle East. But more importantly Europeans had way more finance and resources to take more slaves than Arabs. And the Atlantic slave trade was able to continue longer because of that. Arabs were only really limited to the Swahili coast and they had to purchase the slaves.

It's pretty difficult to come with good figures, to be honest. So much shyt was unrecorded back then, with false accounts and off the record shyt
I'm just glad it's in the past.

 

[observe]

IMO there's no proof that Arabs took more slaves than the Europeans. There's way more African descendants in America alone than the Middle East. But more importantly Europeans had way more finance and resources to take more slaves than Arabs. And the Atlantic slave trade was able to continue longer because of that. Arabs were only really limited to the Swahili coast and they had to purchase the slaves.

Arabs took slaves longer ,, mauratania outlawed slavery in 1980.. America outlawed it in the late 1800s.. Arabs have been taking slaves for a 1000 years.. Where as Europeans took slaves for like almost 400 years

And Arab means people of the sands it really not a race in its original meaning

Lol at Arabs purchasing slaves

 

[BlackStarLine]

Hmm, I'm researching this topic. It seems to me that that Arabs were responsible for the enslavement of Africans well before the Europeans. Did Europeans start getting involved in the African slave trade as result of their participation in Arab trade markets? School me brehs.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Before we get too far into this convo

We really need to put what a "slave" was in context

Because lets be real, the entire damn planet had some system of slavery

That goes for all of Europe and most of Asia specifically Thailand the phillipines and Korea.

Black people under white supremacy is not in this condition because of "having to work for the king" or settle out a debt for 3-5 years then being able to return to they families.

The brutality of we endured was isolated by a small number of Africans and Asians and even in those scenarios is difficult to find people being stripped of language culture spirituality and names, and even more unique is the 100 years following slavery where the klan and red shirt militias went buckwild on us for literally everything then set up a distinct set of written and unwritten laws that oppressed people based on they skin tone and benefited the pale skins. This form of slavery was largely a contribution of white Europeans and white Arabs. Our conditions today are more a reflection of that not working in a field and going home or those across seas being prisoners of war and working off a debt.

All this new talk of who else was involved in slavery is just another trickery ploy by white supremacy. Gotta put it in context.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

This is why so many Africans are Muslim. That's if they weren't forced to Christianity during European colonialism. shyt is still happening in Sudan right now. If slavery didn't exist most of us would be Jewish right now

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Hmm, I'm researching this topic. It seems to me that that Arabs were responsible for the enslavement of Africans well before the Europeans. Did Europeans start getting involved in the African slave trade as result of their participation in Arab trade markets? School me brehs.

Partly. Also because they tried enslaving Native Americans but that aint work out too well

 

[cornercommission2k12]

This is why so many Africans are Muslim. That's if they weren't forced to Christianity during European colonialism. shyt is still happening in Sudan right now. If slavery didn't exist most of us would be Jewish right now

Question

Do you have any reliable evidence that we identified ourselvs as Hebrew's prior to Arab conquest cause all the evidence I run across says we were more into ancient African traditional culture which Europeans came amongst us and called us pagans for commonly known as voodoo or black magic and the evidence of us being Hebrew is rather flimsy and straw man as one may point out a beard or a hole in the ears or something like that to say they were hebrews. Just wondering

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Question

Do you have any reliable evidence that we identified ourselvs as Hebrew's prior to Arab conquest cause all the evidence I run across says we were more into ancient African traditional culture which Europeans came amongst us and called us pagans for commonly known as voodoo or black magic and the evidence of us being Hebrew is rather flimsy and straw man as one may point out a beard or a hole in the ears or something like that to say they were hebrews. Just wondering

Your absolutely right that most Africans were pagans but the Hebrews were African too. Part of the reason they were persecuted and went from place to place so much was because they only believed in one God. Im just assuming more people would've come to believe in Africa would've come to believe in one God too without being forced

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Your absolutely right that most Africans were pagans but the Hebrews were African too. Part of the reason they were persecuted and went from place to place so much was because they only believed in one God. Im just assuming more people would've come to believe in Africa would've come to believe in one God too without being forced

Um they weren't pagan, I said Europeans called them pagan. They were mostly called pagan based on they homage to nature, by a people who were totally against nature. One of the more famous cases were akenaton of kemet who called god aton which meant 1 god. Even before him those in kemet said they came from the mountains of the moon where the god hapi dwells again the acknowledgement of 1 creator. To go even further south Africans called god ka or kai, dogan called god amma, bashango people of the Congo called god bumba, the Ashanti called god nahyamen, the ibo people of Nigeria where a lot of us are from called god chukwu which meant the first force and existence of all people. Traditionally black Africans always believed in 1 god. European invaders just came along and misinterpreted what the culture was.

Even in the bible psalms 82:6 says "ye are gods" with the plural and Jesus reiterates that scripture in John 10:34. But no one would call them pagan or polytheists. Its the same principles that black Africans understood its 1 creator but its creations as in its nature is all cumulative components of that creative force.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Um they weren't pagan, I said Europeans called them pagan. They were mostly called pagan based on they homage to nature, by a people who were totally against nature. One of the more famous cases were akenaton of kemet who called god aton which meant 1 god. Even before him those in kemet said they came from the mountains of the moon where the god hapi dwells again the acknowledgement of 1 creator. To go even further south Africans called god ka or kai, dogan called god amma, bashango people of the Congo called god bumba, the Ashanti called god nahyamen, the ibo people of Nigeria where a lot of us are from called god chukwu which meant the first force and existence of all people. Traditionally black Africans always believed in 1 god. European invaders just came along and misinterpreted what the culture was.

Even in the bible psalms 82:6 says "ye are gods" with the plural and Jesus reiterates that scripture in John 10:34. But no one would call them pagan or polytheists. Its the same principles that black Africans understood its 1 creator but its creations as in its nature is all cumulative components of that creative force.

So it was basically Egyptians who were pagans?

 

[cornercommission2k12]

So it was basically Egyptians who were pagans?

Depends on what you consider pagan cause if you defining homage to the sun water air and fire as pagan then everybody on the planet pagan in a way cause those elements are what human beings are made from

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

becareful when you address arabs! travel before you start a debate.

 

[Couth]

On the phoone with this arab bytch right now. Finna ask her about it.