Apple Stock Just Crashed To A New Low

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This is not true at all...

For starters Jobs would have NEVER ok'd the ipad mini...Apple was a trend setter under Jobs...Under Cooks guidance they have become followers...

I also doubt Jobs would of went to war with Samsung the same way knowing fully well his company has/had a hardware dependency with the Korean manufacturer...Yes he hated Android with a passion but he was a smart business man above all else...

Steve was the one who was behind the war with Samsung and the rest

the ipad mini is outselling everything else using outdated components

Who the f is going to buy a snap bracelet that you'll probably re-buy yearly?

you will when it gets copied and rebranded as the GalaxyWatch

in my opinion the problem with Apple is that they released products that where steps above everyone else and left them running to catch up, the problem is that they caught up and Apple never continued to innovate
 

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That's exactly what iPad did from the way it turns on like a phone where you literally press a button wait 10 seconds and its on (compared to the old Windows-based tablets which were slow and acted like a computer)
iPad was not the first tablet with short boot times. And what the fukk do you mean "act like a computer" ? All tablets are computers :huh:

to the way it basically is used as a tablet-sized mobile device. It brought the touchscreen iOS interface to a tablet, that entire style been copied over and over by Android and others. Before the iPad you could only get a "tablet" with a stylus and the Windows interface.
:huh: Firstly, what does that even mean?
Second, touchscreen is touchscreen whether or not you decide to use a stylus or not :what: And simply putting your operating system onto a bigger iPhone is not innovating at all :what

It birthed an entire style/design that has been copied over and over again by other companies.
this i'll agree with a bit. their aesthetics has always been their strong suit and tablet manufacturers have copied their looks. But Apple has been known for doing the same so how innovative are they really?

It combined everything you can do on a desktop in tablet form. Web surfing, e-mail, e-reader, music player, apps, games. No tablet had done that before.
this is completely false. early microsoft tablets could do every single thing you just listed.
all an "app" is is a program. that's it. Apple has you nikkas thinking programs for your computers are something brand new :laff:

Should we even talk about how the iPad is a device that can not only be used by the average person, but is now used in retail stores? Classrooms? Hospitals? And that's not innovative?

and what makes other tablets unable to do these things you just mentioned? :what: Before the iPad, microsoft tablets were frequently being used the healthcare industry
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iPad was not the first tablet with short boot times. And what the fukk do you mean "act like a computer" ? All tablets are computers :huh:

Until the iPad, tablets were big and bulky and for the most part, slow. They were basically exactly what you would find on a desktop PC, but in tablet form. Square peg in a round hole. That's why tablets never took off.

:huh: Firstly, what does that even mean?
Second, touchscreen is touchscreen whether or not you decide to use a stylus or not :what: And simply putting your operating system onto a bigger iPhone is not innovating at all :what

You once again prove you don't know the difference between INNOVATE and INVENT. Nobody said Apple invented the touchscreen. But show me a tablet that multi-touch, swiping capabilities, pinch to zoom, etc. before the iPad? It didn't exist. That's called INNOVATING.

this i'll agree with a bit. their aesthetics has always been their strong suit and tablet manufacturers have copied their looks. But Apple has been known for doing the same so how innovative are they really?

Are we discussing the iPad still or all tech in general? if we're still talking iPad, then I'm glad you admit Apple birthed this entire generation of tablets. That's called INNOVATION.

this is completely false. early microsoft tablets could do every single thing you just listed.
all an "app" is is a program. that's it. Apple has you nikkas thinking programs for your computers are something brand new :laff:

Bullshyt. They had a built-in music app? They had an e-reader? They had tablet-specific apps and games? No, they had a desktop PC squeezed into a tablet form and most of the shyt didn't work well which is why none of it took off. Apple looked at that and said how can we make this easier for people to use. INNOVATION.

and what makes other tablets unable to do these things you just mentioned? :what: Before the iPad, microsoft tablets were frequently being used the healthcare industry
:shake:

Another example of not knowing the difference between INVENT and INNOVATE. Microsoft Tablets were used in some healthcare fields just with the stylus for note taking. That's true. Once again I never said Apple INVENTED that. But they took that idea and expanded it and made it so a tablet could now be used in not only healthcare, but a variety of different fields. That is called motherfukking INNOVATION. Can other tablets now do that stuff too? Sure. Were any of them doing it before the iPad? No.
 

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Until the iPad, tablets were big and bulky and for the most part, slow. They were basically exactly what you would find on a desktop PC, but in tablet form. Square peg in a round hole. That's why tablets never took off.
:huh:
Why would you not want exactly what you find in desktop PC in tablet form? That's the entire point of having a tablet :huh:

You once again prove you don't know the difference between INNOVATE and INVENT. Nobody said Apple invented the touchscreen. But show me a tablet that multi-touch, swiping capabilities, pinch to zoom, etc. before the iPad? It didn't exist. That's called INNOVATING.
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Bullshyt. They had a built-in music app? They had an e-reader? They had tablet-specific apps and games? No, they had a desktop PC squeezed into a tablet form and most of the shyt didn't work well which is why none of it took off. Apple looked at that and said how can we make this easier for people to use.
Yes, they had built-in programs to play music.
Yes, you could read books with them.
Yes, they had OS specific programs and games.
It didn't take off because it didn't look pretty and didn't have the power of Apple's brand marketing behind it.


Another example of not knowing the difference between INVENT and INNOVATE. Microsoft Tablets were used in some healthcare fields just with the stylus for note taking. That's true. Once again I never said Apple INVENTED that. But they took that idea and expanded it and made it so a tablet could now be used in not only healthcare, but a variety of different fields. That is called motherfukking INNOVATION. Can other tablets now do that stuff too? Sure. Were any of them doing it before the iPad? No.


Yes, "they" were doing it before the iPad :huh: I just showed you an example and there are plenty others. People deciding to use iPad for teaching in 2013 doesn't mean that Apple created that lane. It just means tablet computing as an industry has grown so much that they are being used in more places now. Computers, which are exactly what tablets are, have been in education for decades. Apple did not introduce that idea.

I don't even know why I'm arguing with a guy that talks about a "built-in music app" like that's is something new. It's a fukking music player :laff:

Apples gives you guys these buzzwords and you run around repeating them as if it's something brand new.

"retina display"
"apps"
"swiping capabilities"

:laff: y'all kill me
 

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Why would you not want exactly what you find in desktop PC in tablet form? That's the entire point of having a tablet :huh:

Because the software for a desktop PC is made for a desktop PC, not a tablet. The functionality is not the same when you try to fit it into a different medium. Thats a large reason why the early tablets failed. They didn't tweak the OS enough to make it easy to use in tablet form.


:snoop: The Asus T91 didn't launch until 2009 you stupid fukk. Please do a little research beyond just quickly browsing Amazon next time you speak to me

ASUS :what:

Yes, they had built-in programs to play music.
Yes, you could read books with them.
Yes, they had OS specific programs and games.
It didn't take off because it didn't look pretty and didn't have the power of Apple's brand marketing behind it.

- What kind of music app? Can you describe how it worked?

- Pretty sure iPad was the first multi-use tablet to include e-reader capabilities. I don't believe any of the early Microsoft tablet PC's did. There were specific e-readers like the Sony Reader, but no multi-use tablet that read e-books. Unless you can prove me otherwise.

- They had a few apps and games. Not nearly enough. THAT'S WHY IT FAILED. Nobody knew how to create a platform for easy to use tablet specific apps until iPad.

- So you're saying Apple innovated? Thanks.

Yes, "they" were doing it before the iPad :huh: I just showed you an example and there are plenty others. People deciding to use iPad for teaching in 2013 doesn't mean that Apple created that lane. It just means tablet computing as an industry has grown so much that they are being used in more places now. Computers, which are exactly what tablets are, have been in education for decades. Apple did not introduce that idea.

Motherfukker do a little reading. Swear to God. You keep going back to "who did it first?" like that matters. We're talking about I-N-N-O-V-A-T-I-O-N not I-N-V-E-N-T-I-O-N. These are two different words. Two different meanings. Do you think the fact that all these different industries started using tablets right at the same time the iPad came out is just a coincidence? Of fukking course not. iPad took something that existed and made it 10 times easier and more user-friendly. They INNOVATED.
 

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There are those who KNOW they have the best and those who must be TOLD they have the best. The latter will pay a premium for that "privilege." And that, my friends, is the foundation of the iCult.

Are you a proud Samsung owner? Can you explain why should I buy cheap looking and ugly plastic phone when I can buy iPhone 5 which does everything I need it to, while having the feel of a high-end accessory?

Also, can you explain what is the foundation of driving Mercedes S-Classe?
 
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Are you a proud Samsung owner? Can you explain why should I buy cheap looking and ugly plastic phone when I can buy iPhone 5 which does everything I need it to, while having the feel of a high-end accessory?

Also, can you explain what is the foundation of driving Mercedes S-Classe?

It does everything you need it to

But does it do everything you want it to? Does it do everything possible for you? Does it have the most features?the best features?

That, is why people purchase an S-Class, rather than a civic.
 

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It does everything you need it to

But does it do everything you want it to? Does it do everything possible for you? Does it have the most features?the best features?

That, is why people purchase an S-Class, rather than a civic.

Yeah it does everything possible for me as far as smartphone goes. It should do something more? Make my wishes come true to life?

People now buy S-Class cause it has more functions? Its a luxury way of getting from point A to B. You don't accomplish with it any more than with a Civic. It just happens so that using it feels much better than driving a Civic.

It's not all about functionality and saving money in this world. People like pretty and quality things.

If they are not some fukking nerds.
 

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I know we aint here comparing iphone 5 ($199) / samsung galaxy S3($199) to honda civics ($16-24,000) and Mercedez S class ($60,000+) :stopitslime:
 
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