Apparently, Seth Rollins isn’t the Star that WWE hoped he would be. Gee whiz I wonder why?

[Microfracture]

He's not as bad as some of you are making him out to be. His run in the first half of the year was exciting but then they made him wrestle Dolph for 3 months straight. It got to the point where I'm tired of the superplex, falcon arrow but to say he's a bad worker isn't right.

 

[R=G]

He's not a bad worker..he's just inconsistent..he did fantastic on the night he worked almost an hour. But now Bryan is back to being elite...Almas can do anything when given a chance..Styles...Asuka .Becky..Sasha...New Day..Usos....Cesaro

 

[Arrogance.]

He's just not THAT good anyway.

Better booking would've helped like with almost anyone on the roster, but I don't think Seth has ever shown he can be "Ace" material as WWE (or HHH) thinks he can be.

This goes back all the way to his ROH days. He's got the look, and the moves, but there's just something separating him from being that guy. You've got to massage the hell out of his booking. You can't just plant him as champion, clap your hands, and decide things are settled in that spot for the next year.

 

[XannyWarbucks]

This goes back all the way to his ROH days. He's got the look, and the moves, but there's just something separating him from being that guy. You've got to massage the hell out of his booking. You can't just plant him as champion, clap your hands, and decide things are settled in that spot for the next year.

This. I like Seth, but I would never want to put the company on his shoulders. He's a transitional champion, at best. In ROH he was getting over huge and granted, they took a year to put the belt on him, but once he won it-- people wanted it to go back to Aries shortly after. There's just something he's missing, he's one of those guys that should pull a Naito and just go on an excursion for a couple of months.

 

[Jmare007]

He's not as bad as some of you are making him out to be. His run in the first half of the year was exciting but then they made him wrestle Dolph for 3 months straight. It got to the point where I'm tired of the superplex, falcon arrow but to say he's a bad worker isn't right.

I wouldn't call him a bad worker either, but he does have horrible tendencies. The bolded is not WWE's nor Dolph fault, Seth was the one that made a retarded high spot lose all meaning to the people who actually liked it (and a good number never liked the spot in the first place, myself included).

 

[Da King]

TSC always eventually echoing my every point

 

[Art Barr]

Seth Rollins benefitted from the debut of rohtv.
Plus being taller than his opposition that carried him on rohtv.
Imo, I believe cripple ache and wwe never watched any indy's prior.
Plus did not have any idea about having a real internet presence at that time at the top exec positions. So when they flipped and saw Rollins. I believe they thought they had a new hbk meets cm punk. So they tried to bulk him up and just move from there.
when they raided roh including danielson. They forgot since hhh and hbk and the clique. are not really great on screen as talkers. They figured they could just plug and play him with clique semantics and not work on the intangibles which is what Rollins needed more than anything. Also since the WWE does not believe in match psychology outside the b*stardize cripple ache ripoff of scsa's me smashmouth style. They figure they could just bulk Rollins and not have any other work to do. Which impeded Rollins overall development in the Intangibles. Plus neutering his workrate from roh ruins the little match calling he could do outside of being carried. In essence they tried to raid an unfinished work. Then clique it up when the clique outside flanking Hogan is a failed draw. Or the clique is responsible single handedly for destroying the boom with the son in law. You couple all that low quality lack of workrate based ideals together. With no diversity and no upside of high quality to speak of and that is why Rollins won't create a boom.
WWE has no idea how to blow up talent outside the residuals of rocky III and former protege's to flair allowed to garner a voice in scsa. So Rollins was destined to be what he is.
given the low quality principles who took over and stifled his development and intangibles.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Ziggler is one of the bes inning workers they have. I've NEVER SEEN a bad dolph match. He makes anybody look good an gan work with anybody

Doloh ziggler is wack clique moveset garbage.

Stop trying to talk about him like he was xpac and had some background as this innovative Indy talent. He was the equivalent to a game show contestant and in-house trash WWE made talent. That was made from the angle raid real NCAA prowrasslin ranks to hide his lack of talent. A x's and o's spreadsheet hire based off the angle's matrix without any of angle's talent. That desperately needs to go to the indy's. to ramp in every facet from look to moveset to workrate.

Doloh is the poster child for wack WWE inhouse made talent.
next to that racist the miz.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Rollins COULD be a huge star but they needed to make his character what it was in the 2K18 promo.....watch this commercial again



They need him to be this anti-establishment anti-hero who doesn't care about the past or tradition, doesn't care about paying respect to old timers, history, who is here to change the way WWE is forever....who is here to "burn it down" should be the slogan for that, almost like Bane (no, I don't mean dressing him up like Ambrose either)....his titan tron should be revolutionaries in masks throwing motlov cocktails and disrupting the established order.....

instead WWE has him out here making the same mistakes Roman did which is trying to be 1. funny (which he isn't) and 2. clean cut square babyface (which he isn't)

Nobody would buy that as Rollins character because we know Tyler black is/was. The problem with Seth first is the WWE botched the heyman, Brock ryback shield cm punk hiac storyline. By one not having the company become dominated by heyman. Then not having the ryback feud transfer over to Brock from hiac.
Over the never should have been merged big gold with the hw title.
Then have ryback change over the chase to the other brand. As they ruined the bout and call of the hiac match with punk/ryback When all they had to do was make the chase angle based around heyman running the WWE from having punk, Brock and the shield in place. Instead. They went with ruining the angle in favor of the authority avatar. Which after they ruined the heyman, punk, Brock, shield situation. By just failing to do what you have to do in the angle and being vulnerable. Since they never showed this ability. The lack to do this had residual effects. where all the characters failed and had to be relaunch numerous times now. That now it is no saving the talent in any aspect. from how grafted in low quality overall it has been to save it.



Art Barr

 

[Carl Tethers]

Tyler Wack

 

[Microfracture]

He was wrestling his ass off in that opening match

 

[snikt6384]

He always wrestles his ass off. He's go, go, go and that can be entertaining and exciting. But often it feels like he lacks whenever things aren't go go go. Like outside of work rate, there's something missing. As a character, in terms of selling. I hope it all gels for him one day. He's the best thing on Raw right now, which isn't saying a lot, but still. I say run with him regardless. He gets the people going.

 

[Microfracture]

He always wrestles his ass off. He's go, go, go and that can be entertaining and exciting. But often it feels like he lacks whenever things aren't go go go. Like outside of work rate, there's something missing. As a character, in terms of selling. I hope it all gels for him one day. He's the best thing on Raw right now, which isn't saying a lot, but still. I say run with him regardless. He gets the people going.

Then they way they structure his matches is wrong. The TLC match against Ambrose should've been on sight, instead they had them both come out and start locking up like its Styles/Bryan pre heel turn.

You're right that there's something intangible missing about the guy himself because he's just an Iowa bro. When he's on the mic half the time you just want the match to start. With that said he's still top tier in the company despite being a mediocre promo.

 

[ig88]

Seth struggling just like shawn did. Hell never be the guy but hell always be at the top for a long time.

In this era anyway. His chsrisma is corn. He woulda fit in nice wit that boy band group in wcw.

 

[Norrin Radd]

He's a better heel than face.