Apparently, Seth Rollins isn’t the Star that WWE hoped he would be. Gee whiz I wonder why?

[Jmare007]

You said a lot of interesting shyt but what stuck out....
"Before PWG Cena, dude learned in 2-3 years how to be a legit main event wrestler (promos and in ring)"
Is that on Roman or the writers?
Cena came in at a different time when you could get away with shyt on the mic.
Under those circumstances could you see Roman breaking through?

I'm a big believer in Roman's talent so I tend to blame it more on writing. But Cena was given an impossible gimmick during a time when it was seen as beyond corny, and all of this after he had gotten over as an edgy rapper.

Because he's headlined 4 WMs with Taker, HHH, & Lesnar

The Taker, HHH and 2nd Brock match are arguably Roman's three worst matches in WWE.

Roman's had better matches than Seth against Balor, Wyatt, Big Show, the first Brock match is WAY better than the one Rollins had against Lesnar (in singles). Teigns also has the Sheamus and Joe matches.

The Braun series of 17' alone is more memorable than anything Seth has done as a singles in the E' .

I think the only two guys Rollins has hada beyter match than Roman are Orton (at Mania) and Ambrose (their feud when Seth turned).

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

This is the most random TSC heel turn ever. It's like GOATsso himself booked it.

@Da King

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

When roman referred to the shield as "workhorses" and vince had it copyright afterwards as if anyone wants to use that name

the four workhorsemen

 

[Silkk]

I'm a big believer in Roman's talent so I tend to blame it more on writing. But Cena was given an impossible gimmick during a time when it was seen as beyond corny, and all of this after he had gotten over as an edgy rapper.


The Taker, HHH and 2nd Brock match are arguably Roman's three worst matches in WWE.

Roman's had better matches than Seth against Balor, Wyatt, Big Show, the first Brock match is WAY better than the one Rollins had against Lesnar (in singles). Teigns also has the Sheamus and Joe matches.

The Braun series of 17' alone is more memorable than anything Seth has done as a singles in the E' .

I think the only two guys Rollins has hada beyter match than Roman are Orton (at Mania) and Ambrose (their feud when Seth turned).

He said more memorable. If a guy headlines four Manias in a row and every PPV for 2-3 years straight of course you're going to remember them more

 

[THE 101]

He said more memorable. If a guy headlines four Manias in a row and every PPV for 2-3 years straight of course you're going to remember them more

When I said memorable I meant memorable in terms of match quality and entertainment.

 

[Crimson_Dynamo]

It's the three no order aj,bryan seth and dolph.


Who your favorite on the main roster

Aj has been my fav for the longest. Second would be strowman for the old school monster wrestling style.

 

[Crimson_Dynamo]

Seth Rollins is/was/always will be overrated trash!

Why would some half short/half tall, long haired, raspy voiced, hairy chested, always disgruntled, backstabbing, always injured, loser from Iowa like Seth Rollins be a star?

I honestly think reddit has something to do with that. Anybody remember when they started calling him crossfit jesus?

 

[Da King]

This is the most random TSC heel turn ever. It's like GOATsso himself booked it.

@Da King

Every “turn” these marks make always echoes what I say years before, but I’m “trolling” because I’m ahead of the curve

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Some people in here sound like the WWE higher-ups. It's Seth's fault he can't be a star.

When he came back in 2016, he had the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand. Then they kept him heel, delayed the face turn for several months, and when they finally pulled the trigger, he was nowhere near as hot as he should have been.

2018 should have been his year. I wasn't watching RAW like that, but apparently, he was constantly delivering dope matches every week and he had his breakout performance in the gauntlet match. Then they had him wrestle Ziggler 900 times and had him fight for the IC title when he should have been going for the Universal belt. Now, he's in a feud with Ambrose that already has no heat.

Well, I guess he just doesn't have what it takes to be at the top.

 

[reserved_one]

I don't see Rollins getting any better than he currently is. He's not the best promo cutter or talker, but has his moments here and there. His work rate is really good but he tends to injure wrestlers frequently.

He doesn't really have much of a gimmick. His heel run wasn't memorable. His face run isn't memorable either.

Seth's ceiling was always Jeff Hardy, not HBK. HBK had way more charisma, ring physiology and was more fluid in his wrestling motion compared to the jerky-ness from Rollings.

Jeff Hardy can't talk or cut promos for shyt lol but is one of the GOATs at the flippy shyt.

 

[DANJ!]

Some people in here sound like the WWE higher-ups. It's Seth's fault he can't be a star.

When he came back in 2016, he had the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand. Then they kept him heel, delayed the face turn for several months, and when they finally pulled the trigger, he was nowhere near as hot as he should have been.

2018 should have been his year. I wasn't watching RAW like that, but apparently, he was constantly delivering dope matches every week and he had his breakout performance in the gauntlet match. Then they had him wrestle Ziggler 900 times and had him fight for the IC title when he should have been going for the Universal belt. Now, he's in a feud with Ambrose that already has no heat.

Well, I guess he just doesn't have what it takes to be at the top.

Rollins can be a star, but I don't think he can be THAT guy.

Kinda a Bret Hart to me. People like him obviously, he's dope in the ring, he's never been terrible at anything. But he's also not an extremely engaging character or promo, never has been. He can dip from the top of the card to midcard to opening match and he'd still be the same level of over. If they thought he was a potential Austin/Rock/Cena/Lesnar/etc. that you can't even imagine wrestling anywhere but late on the card... eh.

For the record, I feel the same about Roman Reigns which is why that also failed despite their numerous attempts to make it happen. Last dude that really had it like that was Bryan in '13/'14.

 

[Starboy52]

It's ALMOST as if you can't book the roster like complete garbage outside of 2-3 dudes at a time, then expect them to shine after years of being treated like the unwanted step children. Seth had/has problems as a performer. This is known. He indulges a lot of his worst habits and tendencies during matches and generally relies too much on high spots instead of basic in ring psychology under the guise of "Workrate" compensating all the other areas he needs to improve on and can't tell a story to save his life. He's not a bad performer despite all this, just an incredibly flawed one.

BUT presentation matters. Seth was made to look like ass during his first solo run outside of the Brock cash in. He was basically there to keep The Authority on air as their chosen champion and nothing more. Then he gets injured and instead of hitting the reset button and turning him Babyface right away, they nuke his heat by keeping him heel, turning him face in the most bullshyt way imaginable, then stalling on the ready made feud with Triple H for SIX MONTHS because Trips pulled a Hogan and didn't want to be on TV during the down period for ratings.

They did nothing other than put Seth out there to wrestle for 20 plus minutes last time I checked in. Has that changed any? Have switched up and had him cut any noteworthy promos or give him any big moments to establish him as their guy? Any matches that accentuates his positives while hiding his negatives and actually makes him look the part? Because until they do that, then what the fukk do they expect?

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[MrFirst2doit]

Rollins COULD be a huge star but they needed to make his character what it was in the 2K18 promo.....watch this commercial again



They need him to be this anti-establishment anti-hero who doesn't care about the past or tradition, doesn't care about paying respect to old timers, history, who is here to change the way WWE is forever....who is here to "burn it down" should be the slogan for that, almost like Bane (no, I don't mean dressing him up like Ambrose either)....his titan tron should be revolutionaries in masks throwing motlov cocktails and disrupting the established order.....

instead WWE has him out here making the same mistakes Roman did which is trying to be 1. funny (which he isn't) and 2. clean cut square babyface (which he isn't)

 

[Max.]

WWE: why isn't this guy a bigger star

Also WWE: lol we should book anyone getting hot with Dolph Ziggler for 4 months

This....im a fan but hes matches seem the same...

Wwe gave dolph a rub bcuz his contract was up...they doin it with rusev

 

[Rell84shots]

It’s because he looks like a fan and wines when he talks

You just described 99% of the roster