AOC sold out progressives in order to get a top oversight position and they still screwed here.

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

They gave it to a 74 year old cac with throat cancer.

The centrists that control the democrat party are no different than republicans. maybe even worse. they only care about preserving their positions and their power. even if you c00n, wench and buck for them, they still keep you on a leash. Progressives need to realize they are NOT Democrats. At least Bernie is officially an independent.

 

[desjardins]

Basically the only way to get any power in the democratic party is to align yourself with the status quo which everyone complains about. To make change you need to participant in the party to get a seat at the table but then you get there and .....have to get in line and don't try to actually change anything or risk people in your own party sabotaging your campaigns and funding worse opposition campaigns to unseat you

Makes sense that the most popular recent Democrat candidate wasn't even a Democrat

 

[Pazzy]

I never took her seriously ever. Wasnt she an actress? Her and her minnie mouse voice having ass. How much helium did she inhale to sound like that?

 

[jay83]

Ross Perot was the most successful third party candidate of all time. Got 20 percent of the votes in 1992. One of the biggest reason Clinton won and bush was only a one term president.

I think Bernie could find a younger person to pair up with and start building towards that true third party.

 

[Luke Cage]

Basically the only way to get any power in the democratic party is to align yourself with the status quo which everyone complains about. To make change you need to participant in the party to get a seat at the table but then you get there and .....have to get in line and don't try to actually change anything or risk people in your own party sabotaging your campaigns and funding worse opposition campaigns to unseat you

Makes sense that the most popular recent Democrat candidate wasn't any a Democrat

how are they going to do anything without power though.

sort of a lose lose

Reason why Bernie sanders in 80 something with zero accomplishments to his name.

 

[desjardins]

how are they going to do anything without power though.

yea that's the point. You can't get power in the party if you aren't doing the bidding of the donor class
Democrats have successfully demonized both third party voting and any populist progressive ideas

 

[hostsamurai]

I believe this. After the whole Mama Bear comment she was open for business in terms of being an entrenched careerist politician.

Now, if there was a vote for single payer or gun control, or increased corporation tax I'm sure she would vote yes, but I don't think she would fight for anything that would fundamentally change the structure of power in the Democratic party.

The Justice Democrats idea was a failure, they all got picked off and now the rest will back down and go the way of the entrenched incumbent until AIPAC or some Democrat establishment backed challenger takes their seat.

 

[the cac mamba]

progressives aren't gonna be taken seriously, on a national level, until they knock off the weird shyt

it's great that progressives want to fight for the middle class, and healthcare, and childcare, etc. why does that have to be coupled with open borders, and teaching kids there are 60 genders?

until they change their image, progressives are a novelty at best. in dark blue areas only. they HAVE to moderate socially

 

[UWasntThere]

AOC sold her soul to the Democratic Party during that speech at the DNC and she still got finessed

 

[RickyDiBiase]

America is not a progressive country. Blame the people for that.

there's a reason why Bubba and Barack put two and two together and managed to serve 8 year terms and everyone else gets obliterated(Dukakis and McGovern) or loses by a hair (Gore and Harris).

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Y'all should have known what the deal was when Pelosi left her in tears on the House floor.

This is good though. Fall in line and stop pretending to be special.

You're not.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

I believe this. After the whole Mama Bear comment she was open for business in terms of being an entrenched careerist politician.

Now, if there was a vote for single payer or gun control, or increased corporation tax I'm sure she would vote yes, but I don't think she would fight for anything that would fundamentally change the structure of power in the Democratic party.

The Justice Democrats idea was a failure, they all got picked off and now the rest will back down and go the way of the entrenched incumbent until AIPAC or some Democrat establishment backed challenger takes their seat.

She actually promised to stop supporting progressive candidates who ran against centrist incumbents or challengers. But this has been brewing for the past year. The broke her.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

progressives aren't gonna be taken seriously, on a national level, until they knock off the weird shyt

it's great that progressives want to fight for the middle class, and healthcare, and childcare, etc. why does that have to be coupled with open borders, and teaching kids there are 60 genders?

until they change their image, progressives are a novelty at best. in dark blue areas only. they HAVE to moderate socially

Everyone who say they're progressive aren't progressive. That's the problem. You have some democrats who use the title just to appeal to more people. But, they're not. That's why they're trying to change the rules to be apart of the progressive caucus.

 

[Worthless Loser]

She didn't "sell her soul". She matured and learned to work within the system to get favorable outcomes instead of trying to grandstand and work against the party to show some type of moral superiority.

MTG did the same thing on the right to some extent.

Only immature idiots who don't know anything about politics and are 100% purity test driven think she sold out.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Everyone who say they're progressive aren't progressive. That's the problem. You have some democrats who use the title just to appeal to more people. But, they're not. That's why they're trying to change the rules to be apart of the progressive caucus.

I been telling them this shyt for a few years now because I see it in NYC

They are not PROGRESSIVE

They are neoliberal shills that use the non-profit industrial complex to fool people into thinking that the things they are doing are altruistic, meanwhile they are cutting backroom deals with the same billionaire corporations they claim to be against, who are coincidentally funding those same non-profits since Citizens United opened the floodgates.

And when you challenge them on this they call you MAGA, or a bigot, or out of touch.