AOC & Congressional Progressives push back on Jimmy Dore and premature Medicare For All floor votes

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This bum ass nicca man. He's fighting for that $15 minimum wage because he's gonna need it next season. Of all the players in the world its this 18th string running back ass nicca that is trying to get into the lefty breadtube game.
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This bum ass nicca man. He's fighting for that $15 minimum wage because he's gonna need it next season. Of all the players in the world its this 18th string running back ass nicca that is trying to get into the lefty breadtube game.
Didn’t know he had his own YouTube channel :dwillhuh:



He’s preparing for free agency in 2022? :mjlol:
 

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I would be interested in hearing about what action they'd like her to take on.

What precisely is she, as an individual, to do on these specific issues? Other than bill introduction and trying to garner support for her positions?
Why not do what Joe Manchin does, threaten not to vote for stuff unless they do what you want?
She is part of a squad they can't be a voting block to get stuff Progressives want? Why do they have to be a rubber stamp?
 

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Why not do what Joe Manchin does, threaten not to vote for stuff unless they do what you want?
She is part of a squad they can't be a voting block to get stuff Progressives want? Why do they have to be a rubber stamp?
I think that has some merit, but there's a pretty big difference - Manchin is only pushing against the progressive legislation from the Dems. A much easier ask. Opposition is always easier than progression.

If The Squad grounds common-sense legislation because it isn't progressive enough they won't win any new support. They'll be slaughtered by the media.

I'm saying this as a person significantly to the Left of them, on foreign policy issues and stances taken by the wider Democratic Party, they may have a chance.

But obstruction? Probably not.
 

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I think that has some merit, but there's a pretty big difference - Manchin is only pushing against the progressive legislation from the Dems. A much easier ask. Opposition is always easier than progression.

If The Squad grounds common-sense legislation because it isn't progressive enough they won't win any new support. They'll be slaughtered by the media.

I'm saying this as a person significantly to the Left of them, on foreign policy issues and stances taken by the wider Democratic Party, they may have a chance.

But obstruction? Probably not.
Just saying this is what these guys expect. I would say AOC doesn't have to listen to these guys specifically but generally. They want opposition at every turn that's not realistic but AOC and the Squad/anyone claiming to be Progressive are going to have to take a stand eventually against their leadership and I suggest they pick as wisely as possible. They can't just go along to get along forever, they will lose their core support and overall credibility eventually.
 

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Are they gonna spend their entire careers saying they don't have power then? They're never gonna get it without making a move or a big economic crash that shifts people's perspective.
 

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Are they gonna spend their entire careers saying they don't have power then? They're never gonna get it without making a move or a big economic crash that shifts people's perspective.
Using power to pass favorable infrastructure reconciliation bill >>> using power to burn M4A in order to expose Democrats
 

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Are they gonna spend their entire careers saying they don't have power then? They're never gonna get it without making a move or a big economic crash that shifts people's perspective.

The whole "why aren't The Squad like the Freedom Caucus" is stupid though.

The Freedom Caucus was backed by the Koch network and powerful Libertarian billionaires. Thats why they could get Boehner out of the paint and wreck havoc in Congress.

Chris Hedges has said this before but THE SQUAD do not represent power structures like those Koch heads do.

So its either political suicide or you gotta fall in line to get something accomplished.

If they were repped by say, an organized labor movement that had teeth, THEN you'd see them flex. But there's nothing like that.

It's why corporate Dems can hang their nuts out like they're doing right now. They have powerful interests in their corner.
 
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