AOC asked her followers who voted for both her and Trump why they did it? The responses are interesting to say the least.

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why was there only 4 months

and shyt go back further, why was she made VP in the first place when biden's age was an issue from the start

the way some people are framing this is literally the only way to absolve the DNC of responsibility for the clusterfukk. there is no version of kamala that wins nationally at anything if there's ever a vote involved. and we knew this because even in a controlled environment, she failed rapidly.
She was thr VP because Biden needed to ensure the black vote and was struggling to coalesce the party after the progressives lost out on Bernie and Kamala. For the second time in a row the primary ended and people didn’t automatically come together. Some compromises had to be made and one was Biden as a white man needed a women and/or a minority on the ticket. Which I think is fair because we’re not republicans. We don’t just agree white peoples need to always lead on everything.

Also you are absolutely right that Joe was supposed to be a 1 term guy. I am not trying to absolve the DNC I am saying that if we follow the your thinking through we were fukked the moment Biden went up there and had a horrible debate. Personally I think the issue was the Democrats knew this, and put Kamala up there as a hail Mary to win the election and not have Biden dragged congress down with his bad approval numbers.

I don’t know why he stayed, but devils advocate he did a good job in general outside of Israel which he gets to much flack on since it’s a foreign country. He fukked up though, and people like Nancy cant say shyt cause she was one of the decision makers in the party that was pushing for him to run again.

At the end of the Day Kamala was the nominee with 4 months, anyone else would have been the nominee with 3 months and a likely bitter party based on how the last two primaries were.
 

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A primary didn't happen because like the actual primary before, nobody spoke up. Why did nobody speak up? Because everyone was convinced that the only person who could beat Trump was Biden. That also explains why there was never a plan to transition from Biden. Biden may have fukked up going straight to Harris, but he had a person in mind. He made a decision. Hell, he made a safe, easy decision compared to everyone else who STILL don't know who they want.


The election was done after the first debate, so for Kamala to round up the interest she had was solid for her, but Democrats from the top down have no one to blame but themselves. Even now, the early favorite is the one guy who might cost the Democrats Calfornia.
I mean that is fair. To me the main factors are the DNC and the big donors anre inept. Social media has people completely confused, and Biden/Pelosi/Schumer fukked up something horrible. Biden with Hubris and Pelosi/Schumer who are only party leadership because they are and have been the bigggest fundraisers. Neither of them have shown consistent leadership, they just are the advocates for what the donors want.
 

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Basically they perceive her and Trump as political outsiders

That's a big part of how people think. AOC was a bartender, Trump was a real estate/reality entertainment bozo. But my thing is once you've been president or been in congress, you're not a political outsider anymore. You're a politician plain and simple.
 

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While all of this is fair, they just handed Trump the election. You don't like your party's candidate so you stay home and let the competing party win? How? Sitting home was a mistake! I simply can't understand the mindset here. Because you're resentful of who your party picked you're going to bend over and get fukked by Trump? I don't think people truly understood how bad the next 4 years will be and beyond.



Bro, some voters do not vote for parties ... they vote based on the people running.
 

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EXACTLY

Dems need to STOP being republican light.



Won't happen tho because both parties are controlled by corporate interests.

What policy did Kamala run as "Republican light" on?

She suffered most from her hard left stances on immigration and transgenderism
 

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I like Kamala but for a lawyer she doesn't sometimes communicate her message well..that politician diplomacy in her is not enough when dealing in the political landscape that has no values that she trying to participate in
 

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What policy did Kamala run as "Republican light" on?

She suffered most from her hard left stances on immigration and transgenderism
Yall need to stop with this bullshyt LIE.

Did you even watch the video I responded to that broke down the numbers?

Just because the "trans issue" is loaded and controversial doesn't mean it's the reason she lost.
 

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While all of this is fair, they just handed Trump the election. You don't like your party's candidate so you stay home and let the competing party win? How? Sitting home was a mistake! I simply can't understand the mindset here. Because you're resentful of who your party picked you're going to bend over and get fukked by Trump? I don't think people truly understood how bad the next 4 years will be and beyond.

Shut yo Canadian ass up, throwing judgement on American affairs.

Like nah for real. Shut all the way thee fukk up :pacspit:

Goofy dont even live here and perpetuating all this doom-posting about our circustance in America. Slap yourself :mjlol:
 

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fukking shameful. The Harris campaign avoided all the places leftist get news. :unimpressed: meanwhile Trump showing up to podcasts to talk to clout demons who don't care about politics

Coli's arch-nemesis FD even made got a shout out. even that nazi platforming fagkit Destiny. Some of these streamers have be actively trying to get more involved with the DNC but cap hill Dems are scared of them.
 

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AOC trying to separate herself from the current DNC party.
They’ve sonned her too much in public.
She thinks the DNC is washed up.
Republicans got the same Trump with a completely new team.
DNC still listening to Pelosi and Obama from the 2000s.
They need fresh faces but they are scared of AOC and the younger crop of Dems.
They’re not pushing any new stars.
Like WWE before the Shield showed up.


Facts
 
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