Texas2step
H-Town it's NOT our year
so then how was this a spaghetti western if it was made in America by an American director ?
Anyone Seen Django?
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so then how was this a spaghetti western if it was made in America by an American director ?
You can hear Pac say it when Django throws the cabinet to the floor for shelter.
Been listening to that Jim Croce joint too. I downloaded the following from the soundtrack:
Who Did That To You - John Legend
Unchained - James Brown/2Pac
I Got a Name - Jim Croce
That song makes me
a little. Comes at one of the saddest scenes in the movie."I'll be damned."
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Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
QT should have a Kang Schultz prequel for us
I know Kang had quite the journey. Waltz is incedible.
I know Kang had quite the journey. Waltz is incedible.
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Veteran
Well it's a little more than that. QT made it in that style.
TUA TAGOVAILOA
Superstar
You can hear Pac say it when Django throws the cabinet to the floor for shelter.
Been listening to that Jim Croce joint too. I downloaded the following from the soundtrack:
Who Did That To You - John Legend
Unchained - James Brown/2Pac
I Got a Name - Jim Croce
"Freedom" by Anthony Hamilton & Elayna Boynton in "Django Unchained" - YouTube
That song makes me
Lo Chiamavano King (His Name Is King) (Luis Bacalov / Edda Del'Orso) - YouTube
"I'll be damned."
yea that croce shyt goes hard
Rapmastermind
Superstar
LOL @ the caping over this average film. I can't believe some of you really hyped it up. It's no where near QT's best.
Rapmastermind
Superstar
"DJANGO UNCHAINED" GRADE = C+
Well I finally got a chance to see what is easily the most controversial film of the year and of QT's career. The movie was average at best and here's why. 1st let me say technically it was a very well made film. Jamie, Sam, Leo and Waltz all gave really strong performances in the roles and drove the movie. It was shot very well as the shots of the landscapes of middle America were really accented. It was more Western than Blaxplotation as everyone was saying but I guess that was QT's point. I did enjoy the Action of the film and it was very positive to see a Black Hero take no prisoners. That right there was enough for my C+ grade.
The reason why it couldn't get higher was the movie's flaws outshinned what was good about it. 1st we all have gone back and forth about how slavery should and shouldn't be portrayed in film. I really think in this case QT uses it a gimmick to drive the story when it honestly probably wasn't even needed. He could of set this after the Civil War. America was still very racist and he could of had the same scenario because even though Slaves were free, many slaves stayed the south and continued to work on Plantations. So I do agree with people saying he used Slavery as a "Shock Value" thing. Next it was clear the "White Savoir" formula wither purposely or not was used to drive this story. It should of been called "Dr. King Swaltz" unchained cause the movie is basically told through his perspective.
He basically has to guide Django every step of the way which falls right in line with the Blacks can't do anything for ourselves concept. It basically has a buddy cop feel to it, think 48 hours or Lethal Weapon of the 1850's. Next the movie was about 30 minutes way to long and it effected the pacing. So he frees Django, breaks down the bounty hunter business and takes him on about 2 bounties. Next thing you know they find the Brittle Brothers very quickly. There was no character development with Django's character. QT should of spent more time training Django and show him learning things from Waltz so the 1st act feels very rushed.
Now when they finally get to the Plantation. Kerry Washington had to be the weakest written woman character QT has ever done in his career. He whole role was about 10 lines, the rest she was speaking German. Then she was whipped, nude and just again a weak character. He had her showing zero strength at all to me. Leo played a really good Plantation owner and yes Sam did killed it as Uncle Tom/Rukas character but it was exaggerated but maybe that's what they were going for. As for how Slavery was depicted, he showed the brutal sides. The Mandingo fighting, Dogs attacking the Slave, Lashings/Whippings. The whole near castration scene. And even the opening scene with him getting Django. QT didn't in my view trivialize the brutality of Slavery but he used it in a way to remind the audience of the horrors while keeping the story going. The Birth of the KKK scene was funny cause they ridiculous when you look at it historically but the KKK was no joking matter in History especially blacks.
So we get to the climax of the film and not to my surprise. Django doesn't even get to kill the main villain, Dr. King does. We basically get two endings cause of course it would of been wack for it to end that way. Django comes back and wreaks havoc and saves the day. There was some social commentary if you read between the lines but QT didn't really make it a point to have the message spelled out for you. It was done suddenly. I do feel the movie was trying to be overly comedic for it subject matter. The Music was good in spots and terrible in others. Here I am trying to feel like I'm in Slave times in the 1800's and Rick Ross comes on like it's a damn rap video, SMH, again that took me out of slave times and out of the moment. Some of the music just doesn't work cause again using modern music in a period piece just throws it off.
Now here's where I feel Spike was right without even seeing it. Slavery was a very serious issue in America History. I do agree with him that making an Action Adventure Slavery movie for the masses is kinda watering down the history. Someone in the "Django" review thread said, "White People hung there heads after watching Roots, Rosewood, Burning in Mississippi etc. They were laughing and having a good time with Django". I kinda agree with this. Sure he showed how horrible White people were back then but the movie didn't really in my view go even far enough. I think early criticism of the script forced him to take out things that might have helped the story to me. Beside Waltz Killing Candie being horrible (Can't let the Black Hero kill the main villain, SMH). He had the nerve to ultimately make Sam basically the main villian (Black on Black crime, lol). As for the N-word. Again I understand it was Slave times so I let it go but QT did OD on for the sake of it, "******hurcules", Really QT? Getting jokes off it, SMH.
So it's an uneven movie at best. The Technical side was great but the story, pacing and other issues affected it. I understand why some Black enjoyed it cause at it's core it was about getting "The Man" back. Jamie whipping one of the Brittle Brothers was one of the most powerful images for me. As Well as him riding the horse to save his women. Overall I kinda see and understand what QT was trying to do but he should of throught it through a little more. So it did entertain but I couldn't help watching it wondering did it slightly water down slavery just for being again an Action Adventure Slavery film. It ranks in the Bottom half of QT's career:
#1. Pulp Fiction (A+)
#2. Reservoir Dogs (B+)
#3. Jackie Brown (B)
#4. Kill Bill (B)
#5. Inglorious b*stards (B -)
#6. Kill Bill 2 (B -)
#7. Django Unchained (C +)
#8. Death Proof (C -)
The reason why it couldn't get higher was the movie's flaws outshinned what was good about it. 1st we all have gone back and forth about how slavery should and shouldn't be portrayed in film. I really think in this case QT uses it a gimmick to drive the story when it honestly probably wasn't even needed. He could of set this after the Civil War. America was still very racist and he could of had the same scenario because even though Slaves were free, many slaves stayed the south and continued to work on Plantations. So I do agree with people saying he used Slavery as a "Shock Value" thing. Next it was clear the "White Savoir" formula wither purposely or not was used to drive this story. It should of been called "Dr. King Swaltz" unchained cause the movie is basically told through his perspective.
He basically has to guide Django every step of the way which falls right in line with the Blacks can't do anything for ourselves concept. It basically has a buddy cop feel to it, think 48 hours or Lethal Weapon of the 1850's. Next the movie was about 30 minutes way to long and it effected the pacing. So he frees Django, breaks down the bounty hunter business and takes him on about 2 bounties. Next thing you know they find the Brittle Brothers very quickly. There was no character development with Django's character. QT should of spent more time training Django and show him learning things from Waltz so the 1st act feels very rushed.
Now when they finally get to the Plantation. Kerry Washington had to be the weakest written woman character QT has ever done in his career. He whole role was about 10 lines, the rest she was speaking German. Then she was whipped, nude and just again a weak character. He had her showing zero strength at all to me. Leo played a really good Plantation owner and yes Sam did killed it as Uncle Tom/Rukas character but it was exaggerated but maybe that's what they were going for. As for how Slavery was depicted, he showed the brutal sides. The Mandingo fighting, Dogs attacking the Slave, Lashings/Whippings. The whole near castration scene. And even the opening scene with him getting Django. QT didn't in my view trivialize the brutality of Slavery but he used it in a way to remind the audience of the horrors while keeping the story going. The Birth of the KKK scene was funny cause they ridiculous when you look at it historically but the KKK was no joking matter in History especially blacks.
So we get to the climax of the film and not to my surprise. Django doesn't even get to kill the main villain, Dr. King does. We basically get two endings cause of course it would of been wack for it to end that way. Django comes back and wreaks havoc and saves the day. There was some social commentary if you read between the lines but QT didn't really make it a point to have the message spelled out for you. It was done suddenly. I do feel the movie was trying to be overly comedic for it subject matter. The Music was good in spots and terrible in others. Here I am trying to feel like I'm in Slave times in the 1800's and Rick Ross comes on like it's a damn rap video, SMH, again that took me out of slave times and out of the moment. Some of the music just doesn't work cause again using modern music in a period piece just throws it off.
Now here's where I feel Spike was right without even seeing it. Slavery was a very serious issue in America History. I do agree with him that making an Action Adventure Slavery movie for the masses is kinda watering down the history. Someone in the "Django" review thread said, "White People hung there heads after watching Roots, Rosewood, Burning in Mississippi etc. They were laughing and having a good time with Django". I kinda agree with this. Sure he showed how horrible White people were back then but the movie didn't really in my view go even far enough. I think early criticism of the script forced him to take out things that might have helped the story to me. Beside Waltz Killing Candie being horrible (Can't let the Black Hero kill the main villain, SMH). He had the nerve to ultimately make Sam basically the main villian (Black on Black crime, lol). As for the N-word. Again I understand it was Slave times so I let it go but QT did OD on for the sake of it, "******hurcules", Really QT? Getting jokes off it, SMH.
So it's an uneven movie at best. The Technical side was great but the story, pacing and other issues affected it. I understand why some Black enjoyed it cause at it's core it was about getting "The Man" back. Jamie whipping one of the Brittle Brothers was one of the most powerful images for me. As Well as him riding the horse to save his women. Overall I kinda see and understand what QT was trying to do but he should of throught it through a little more. So it did entertain but I couldn't help watching it wondering did it slightly water down slavery just for being again an Action Adventure Slavery film. It ranks in the Bottom half of QT's career:
#1. Pulp Fiction (A+)
#2. Reservoir Dogs (B+)
#3. Jackie Brown (B)
#4. Kill Bill (B)
#5. Inglorious b*stards (B -)
#6. Kill Bill 2 (B -)
#7. Django Unchained (C +)
#8. Death Proof (C -)
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
everybodys at least said it once in their head or when theyre listening to a rick ross track alone at home
I generally don't like anything QT has been apart of but this is one of the best movies I've seen in a theatre. I've never actually sat and thought of my 10 favourite movies but this might be in there. Only thing I didn't like was the Ross and Pac songs, them shyts came out of nowhere and didn't fit imo
VladTheImpaler
The Sensational Prince
Yes, I did not feel those two songs fit at all. Seemed forced.
Also, QT needs to learn from other top producers..... Stay out of the film! His character was Terrible and his acting was atrocious!
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
I think we all think the bags was a nice idea. But...not pointing any fingers, they could of been done better. So how bout, no bags this time, but next time, we do the bags right, and then go full regalia?
b/c he did not make it
Jamie Foxx' performance was good but he already won major awards and :
hasn't. Hollywood politics
i just gotta ask...throughout the movie, you see how the black folks were being treated, and then you have samuel l jackson's character talking to Leo's character like he's the owner of the house. 
Then you have all the maids doing whatever the fukk they want to, and they all happy and shyt.
shyt just made it even more unrealistic. I don't know how people can praise this shyt. maybe cause it got a ****** killing white people
Then you have all the maids doing whatever the fukk they want to, and they all happy and shyt.
shyt just made it even more unrealistic. I don't know how people can praise this shyt. maybe cause it got a ****** killing white people
