Anyone Seen Django?

[phillycavsfan]

LOL @ people saying "It wouldn't be realistic for Black Slaves to invade an Plantation" But in the next sentence defend that a Black Cowboy riding around killing white folks is realistic. People trying to have it both ways defending the film.

The black cowboy is a bounty hunter. It was perfectly legal. :ohword:

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

Now you are putting words in my mouth.

Which slave owner did Django kill?

big daddy

 

[phillycavsfan]

Now you are putting words in my mouth.

Which slave owner did Django kill?

Spoiler

Big Daddy
The Briddle Bros (Not slaveowners per se, but full participants in the slave trade)
Most of the inhabitants of Candieland (Not slaveowners per se, but full participants in the slave trade)

 

[Rapmastermind]

I said this in my "Spike" Thread in KTL. A Black Person HAS NEVER DIRECTED a Slavery Film for Hollywood up till this point. Next year "12 Years a Slave" is the 1st film directed by a Black Director based on Slavery. Why do you guys think Hollywood has NEVER let a Black Director handle the Slavery Subject? Maybe cause they don't want our perspective.

 

[phillycavsfan]

I said this in my "Spike" Thread in KTL. A Black Person HAS NEVER DIRECTED a Slavery Film for Hollywood up till this point. Next year "12 Years a Slave" is the 1st film directed by a Black Director based on Slavery. Why do you guys think Hollywood has NEVER let a Black Director handle the Slavery Subject? Maybe cause they don't want our perspective.

Or maybe because no one would pay to watch it. Black folks included.

Tell me the last time a non-Tyler Perry historical drama did well at the box office. I'll wait.

EDIT: I changed black to historical because I remembered Precious and Dreamgirls. But it's still rare.

 

[Marvel]

I agree with you. However, I'm of the opinion that it was a bait and switch though..QT made this movie "safe" for whites to get them to the theatre...then proceeded to shyt on them for 2.5 hours. That was definitely the feeling I got in the theatre I was in. White folks were MAD QUIET and many of them honestly looked ashamed of themselves, as if they got waaay more than they bargained for. I think all those white people were shocked that they were portrayed that badly and of the atrocities they committed...and while we're at it, were shown how their ancestors fukked up the consciousness of both black and white people in America to this day.

Regarding the bait and switch and white saviours...even the white saviour realizes how fukked up he is by putting himself in a "I'm good cuz I help negroes" position at the end and then basically sacrifices himself. This film is going at white people HARD.

But I also feel this film is going at black folks as well...I'm just not quite able to articulate it yet...

Cool breh. If you time, go back a few pages and read what some of us have said. Everybody will have differing opinions over what they got from the movie. I think white people were ready to see atrocities, but it wasn't on the level of what it could have been. Aside from calling blacks the n word, whppings, and the hotbed punishment of Broomhilda...no white person actually killed a black person themselves. It was either another black man did it, in the case of the Mandigo fighter, Django killing Stephen, and the dogs on the runaway fighter. No white man brought a gun to a slaves head and blasted on them or hanging them.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Or maybe because no one would pay to watch it. Black folks included.

Tell me the last time a non-Tyler Perry drama did well at the box office. I'll wait.

LOL @ that being an excuse that a Black Director never has done a Slave Movie. You can't be serious. I never in a million years seen so many people cop pleas for Hollywood's clear racism. It's pretty sad to me. The Hugh Brothers did "Book of Eli" which was an action film and actually did very well at the box office. Black Directors have made money outside of Tyler perry. Saying nobody would see a Black Slave Movie directed by a Black Director is crazy. The fact is Black Directors would never get a "Slave" movie greenlit cause White/Jew Hollywood doesn't want our stories told by us period. A Black Director could of never done "Schindler's List".

 

[Marvel]

Spoiler

Big Daddy
The Briddle Bros (Not slaveowners per se, but full participants in the slave trade)
Most of the inhabitants of Candieland (Not slaveowners per se, but full participants in the slave trade)

I feel ya on that. I guess you can say that they were in a position of power. Maybe my memory is fading me on the movie.

Spoiler

I thought Big Daddy was killed in the blast with the Raiders/klan.

 

[Marvel]

Or maybe because no one would pay to watch it. Black folks included.

Tell me the last time a non-Tyler Perry historical drama did well at the box office. I'll wait.

EDIT: I changed black to historical because I remembered Precious and Dreamgirls. But it's still rare.

True, Miracle at St Anna was a good movie and it didn't do well in the Box Office. In fact, Spike Lee lost a lot of money on it and has not recovered because of its performance. Major studios have practically avoided him since then. An authentic slavery movie by a black director would be almost impossible to push.

 

[phillycavsfan]

LOL @ that being an excuse that a Black Director never has done a Slave Movie. You can't be serious. I never in a million years seen so many people cop pleas for Hollywood's clear racism. It's pretty sad to me. The Hugh Brothers did "Book of Eli" which was an action film and actually did very well at the box office. Black Directors have made money outside of Tyler perry. Saying nobody would see a Black Slave Movie directed by a Black Director is crazy. The fact is Black Directors would never get a "Slave" movie greenlit cause White/Jew Hollywood doesn't want our stories told by us period. A Black Director could of never done "Schindler's List".

First off, you're completely right that a black person couldn't have made Schindler's List. Neither could a Hispanic, Asian, or even Christian director. Only a Jewish director like Spielberg with his cache could make that.

LOL @ you laughing like "Money, what the fukk does that matter?"

Nobody's taking a date to a 2 hour drama of black people getting whipped and treated like shyt. That movie would bomb. A big reason why black movies don't get made like they used to is because they do even worse numbers among people overseas than they do among white people here in America. Foreign box office matters more than ever nowadays.

A slavery movie would have to give new perspective or take on slavery from another angle. If you released Rosewood into theaters today it would bomb like shyt.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

True, Miracle at St Anna was a good movie and it didn't do well in the Box Office. An authentic slavery movie by a black director would be almost impossible to push.

What are all of the authentic slavery movies ever and their directors?

 

[phillycavsfan]

True, Miracle at St Anna was a good movie and it didn't do well in the Box Office. In fact, Spike Lee lost a lot of money on it and has not recovered because of its performance. Major studios have practically avoided him since then. An authentic slavery movie by a black director would be almost impossible to push.

And Miracle isn't even that good of a movie. You know how depressing that slaughter of the entire village was? They weren't even black and I wanted to turn the DVD player off after that. Bummed me the fukk out.

 

[Marvel]

What are all of the authentic slavery movies ever and their directors?

None and that's the point. It would never go past a script unless you sugarcoat it and add a white savior, then they would need to add a white director as a "guest" director.

The only story I could see working is a story about this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

White and black people would eat this up.

 

[Marvel]

And Miracle isn't even that good of a movie. You know how depressing that slaughter of the entire village was? They weren't even black and I wanted to turn the DVD player off after that. Bummed me the fukk out.

from a cinematic perspective it was good, but even without that scene it still would have bombed. Nobody is trying to see a black man make a movie about World War II, a proud and Golden Era for older white folks.

 

[phillycavsfan]

None and that's the point. It would never go past a script unless you sugarcoat it and add a white savior, then they would need to add a white director as a "guest" director.

The only one story I could see working is a story about this guy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)

White and black people would eat this up.

I wouldn't watch a John Brown movie either. Watching all that buildup only to see them get slaughtered at Harpers Ferry? Nah, I'm good.

Glory was a relatively low-budget war epic that barely made its money back. That's nearly 25 years ago. Film execs have gotten a lot tighter with their wallets since then.