Anyone Read the Book by Edward Bernays- Propaganda

[CouldntBeMeTho]

is there a section in there on sports?

not in this paticular book. sports is a huge part of modern propaganda though. if anyone has any good documentaries or articles on it post it.

edit: it does have a chapter related to art and science though.

 

[concise]

nah but I watched the BBC documentary on dude and it was nice

The Century Of The Self 1 of 4 | One: Happiness Machines - YouTube

lotta people doubt that there are men pulling strings and controlling how people think, but that shyt is definitely real

just finished watching this video


and I was just thinking to myself all week that somewhere, there's got to be some kind of official psychology manual on advertising and using the people's desires against them since I've long thougt it's crazy how marketing these days works.

And it turns out this stuff is actually about a hundred years old

Now I have to find this book and why is this guy not nearly as famous as Freud?

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

just finished watching this video


and I was just thinking to myself all week that somewhere, there's got to be some kind of official psychology manual on advertising and using the people's desires against them since I've long thougt it's crazy how marketing these days works.

And it turns out this stuff is actually about a hundred years old

Now I have to find this book and why is this guy not nearly as famous as Freud?

that's exactly what Bernays is credited with too, i posted a link to the pdf of the book on the first page. its been out so long its public domain now.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

People don't understand that we really are not free thinkers and that our subconscious is always being programmed via stealth type means.....

You have to be cognizant of what you think and mostly importantly, why you think it on a daily basis.....It can be very tiring mentally......That's probably why some of the people with no history of mental illness snap for no apparent reason...

 

[Saka]

thank you seems like a good read, i have long thought this to be true myself its quite evident really if you step back and take a look at modern society.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER, BROTHER! NATIONALISM AND RELIGION HAVE BEEN CONTROLLING POPULATIONS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS NOW, DUDE!

 

[newworldafro]

nah but I watched the BBC documentary on dude and it was nice

The Century Of The Self 1 of 4 | One: Happiness Machines - YouTube

lotta people doubt that there are men pulling strings and controlling how people think, but that shyt is definitely real

Yeah...this video put me on to Bernays.............nephew of Sigmund Freud right???

Godfather of Propaganda/Marketing....shows how we are manipulated....

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

Check out this book called The Waste Makers.

Its one of those books you think you won't like, but can't put it down.


This guy will make you reconsider everything you thought about our current culture.


Basically, mass consumption as it exists today was created so that people would spend money on things they don't need.

For example, by 1950 most people had refrigerators. Companies couldn't sell more refrigerators because so many people had them. They started to make their own products obsolete. This is what Apple does, they come out with a seemingly better version, so people upgrade.

Refrigerators are technologically the same as they were 50 years ago, so why did people upgrade. FASHION. They also started to make them break easier and last for shorter periods of time. Most people upgrade now because the products are so flimsy they don't last long.


This is one of the reasons I love reading books like this, because we take for granted the way things are not realizing how they got that way.

Yeah

He said financing was created so that people could buy things they couldn't afford and keep buying and buying and buying. Do you ever look at Cuba and wonder how these people are still driving old American cars 50 years later. These older cars still work despite a new Kia not being able to last 7 years. Manufacturers purposefully did this to keep you as a CONSUMER. Keep you buying.

 

[UserNameless]

You have to be cognizant of what you think and mostly importantly, why you think it on a daily basis.....It can be very tiring mentally......That's probably why some of the people with no history of mental illness snap for no apparent reason...

Soooooooo true. And that tiredness can shift to the physical, too.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

Check out this book called The Waste Makers.

Its one of those books you think you won't like, but can't put it down.


This guy will make you reconsider everything you thought about our current culture.


Basically, mass consumption as it exists today was created so that people would spend money on things they don't need.

For example, by 1950 most people had refrigerators. Companies couldn't sell more refrigerators because so many people had them. They started to make their own products obsolete. This is what Apple does, they come out with a seemingly better version, so people upgrade.

Refrigerators are technologically the same as they were 50 years ago, so why did people upgrade. FASHION. They also started to make them break easier and last for shorter periods of time. Most people upgrade now because the products are so flimsy they don't last long.


This is one of the reasons I love reading books like this, because we take for granted the way things are not realizing how they got that way.

Yeah

He said financing was created so that people could buy things they couldn't afford and keep buying and buying and buying. Do you ever look at Cuba and wonder how these people are still driving old American cars 50 years later. These older cars still work despite a new Kia not being able to last 7 years. Manufacturers purposefully did this to keep you as a CONSUMER. Keep you buying.

that documentary that was posted earlier talked about this. Bernays actually had a hand in what youre talking about too. after ww1 factories were actually producing more products then people needed. they needed a way to sell these products people didnt actually need.

it was the birth of consumerism, this type of stuff leaves me they dont teach you this in school.

 

[PewPew]

5 stars! Will be back to read more soon

 

[concise]

Check out this book called The Waste Makers.

Its one of those books you think you won't like, but can't put it down.


This guy will make you reconsider everything you thought about our current culture.


Basically, mass consumption as it exists today was created so that people would spend money on things they don't need.

For example, by 1950 most people had refrigerators. Companies couldn't sell more refrigerators because so many people had them. They started to make their own products obsolete. This is what Apple does, they come out with a seemingly better version, so people upgrade.

Refrigerators are technologically the same as they were 50 years ago, so why did people upgrade. FASHION. They also started to make them break easier and last for shorter periods of time. Most people upgrade now because the products are so flimsy they don't last long.


This is one of the reasons I love reading books like this, because we take for granted the way things are not realizing how they got that way.

Yeah

He said financing was created so that people could buy things they couldn't afford and keep buying and buying and buying. Do you ever look at Cuba and wonder how these people are still driving old American cars 50 years later. These older cars still work despite a new Kia not being able to last 7 years. Manufacturers purposefully did this to keep you as a CONSUMER. Keep you buying.

yea, there was a thread on this not too long ago
http://www.the-coli.com/higher-lear...-about-planned-obsolescence.html#.UVBlSLa9LCQ


which is crazy when you think about the fact that Voyager 1 has been in space and going away from the earth since 1977 and is still carrying on

Voyager 1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Enzo]

I can attest to this working because I read it in the past and have used some of the strategies to succeed in nightlife marketing.

 

[profound]

i guess he thinks its a "conspiracy theory.''

doubt thats it but i wont hypothesize... i remember learning about it in 7th grade, we had to draw pro-american propaganda posters, as if we were living thru WW2. noam chomsky has some things to say about it, im not too familiar with his work but i get the feeling he curbs more dissent than he provokes, helping younger americans find that ''comfortable center-line'' in what it is they accept their government doing.

idk something about manipulating the masses like this just seems demonic to me.

once u see it as a common, neutral process, the only propaganda u will find demonic is the kind that doesnt hold to your personal values.

further reading:

Munitions of the Mind; A History of Propaganda from the Ancient World to the Present Day (2003)

Age of Propaganda; The Everyday Use and Abuse of Persuasion (2010)

Propaganda and Information Warfare in the Twenty First Century - Altered Images and Deception Operations (2007)

Propaganda and Persuasion - 5th Edition (2012)

War, Politics and Superheroes; Ethics and Propaganda in Comics and Film (2011)

all are available with a search

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

doubt thats it but i wont hypothesize... i remember learning about it in 7th grade, we had to draw pro-american propaganda posters, as if we were living thru WW2. noam chomsky has some things to say about it, im not too familiar with his work but i get the feeling he curbs more dissent than he provokes, helping younger americans find that ''comfortable center-line'' in what it is they accept their government doing.



once u see it as a common, neutral process, the only propaganda u will find demonic is the kind that doesnt hold to your personal values.

further reading:

Munitions of the Mind; A History of Propaganda from the Ancient World to the Present Day (2003)

Age of Propaganda; The Everyday Use and Abuse of Persuasion (2010)

Propaganda and Information Warfare in the Twenty First Century - Altered Images and Deception Operations (2007)

Propaganda and Persuasion - 5th Edition (2012)

War, Politics and Superheroes; Ethics and Propaganda in Comics and Film (2011)

all are available with a search

I hear ya, propaganda isnt a bad thing in and of itself. just the callousness with which Bernays talks about manipulating the masses seems demonic. Im just not a fan of control freaks, that's what this system has been elevated too.

ill check some of these out