Anyone else notice how virtually ALL North Carolina prospects end up being TRASH in the NBA?

Art Barr

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A lot of "should have's" in your post. Wanna take a stab at reality or no? All this hypothetical BS shows you don't deal in facts AND your opinion is terrible. Spent all that time being hyperbolic and creating "never materialized with Lebron" narratives that you blatantly left out him holding the record for most 3's in a Finals. It's amazing that Roy got a thread about his former players never materializing in the league. Name another current coach with 7 NBA titles by former players.....I'll wait.


funny how you think you know wtf you talembout.
yet if you did.
you would know i covered his finals appearances. In my comment about him only being Good.
for five straight quarters at Best randomly in the finals appearances.


again,...stfu and take your L.


you skim and do not know the source material.
nor the facts.
if you did.
you would know the reference to the disappearing act. Your unc hopeful but a bust was.
yet since you live in homer based denial. You failed.
to even one even say.
who you were even talembout.
Yet i knew and referenced his finals productions as well. Showing even more that you do not know this shyt like that.
that is why you came at me with that guessing game bullshyt. That is easily debunked.
as i know the source material and have actually tested my fact based shyt against the best consistently.

now move around and carry your fukk'n L with you.

I am from a real city.
you can not leave your belongings here.



art barr

you nikkaz with this, headfake like you know.
not fooling nobody, Chu nobodies.



tired of y'all fake'n.
nobody is fooled and in the long run. You gon get played being flaky and phoney.

y'all do not know this shyt and till you do a discovery zone to. You will always fail. You are doomed if you do not know your history and history, period.

keep thinking you can get by like some sheltered trust fund white cat.

this homer act from you is bullshyt.
ol, I got a family at home. I am at work soft on the net ass replies.
you know that table waiting on you.
 

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Ight, @Art Barr state to me your problems with Roy Williams and how he stunts the development of players and whatnot and I'll answer them. Because right now going through the bs you posted on here ain't happening. Respond to this message your problems.

And keep it at UNC. I don't give a damn about Kansas.


stop.
homer face.

this is easy to respond to.
what actual standout real nba superstar has ROY put out since piru.

let alone unc.

that is zero.

that is how we solve this.

indepthly.
we could easily point to him taking over at unc.
well and away from Kansas.

plus list his uptick from the dean/tarheel spirit family tree.
which affords him even higher pedigreed players.
that even after that.
all his players bust in general. plus wind up a-typically in general COMPLETELY UNDERACHIEVING AND ALSO IN REGRESSION. From their original pre-draft rankings consistently as well.
When said tar heel family tree extends to him the luxury of having the ability to acquire one and done's. Yet roy never actually materials any of these players, not a one of them. Into where they are touted or potentially pegged to be.



art barr
 

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stop.
homer face.

this is easy to respond to.
what actual standout real nba superstar has ROY put out since piru.

let alone unc.

that is zero.

that is how we solve this.

indepthly.
we could easily point to him taking over at unc.
well and away from Kansas.

plus list his uptick from the dean/tarheel spirit family tree.
which affords him even higher pedigreed players.
that even after that.
all his players bust in general. plus wind up a-typically in general COMPLETELY UNDERACHIEVING AND ALSO IN REGRESSION. From their original pre-draft rankings consistently as well.
When said tar heel family tree extends to him the luxury of having the ability to acquire one and done's. Yet roy never actually materials any of these players, not a one of them. Into where they are touted or potentially pegged to be.



art barr

1. Since Roy Williams got here his standout talents have been Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton (not recruited by Roy), Brandon Wright, Danny Green, Ty Lawson, Wayne Ellington, Ed Davis, John Henson, Harrison Barnes, and Justin Jackson

Each one of those players except for Harrison barnes had no real expectation of being anything more than role players. Harrison Barnes has disappointed in the NBA a bit, but his development as an NBA player has nothing to do with Roy as he is not his coach anymore. While at UNC, Barnes had the green light. He was our first option and was pretty much able to do what he wanted.

Now as to why we don't have any superstars? Because we don't get superstar talent often. As far as our recruits in the past decade and a half, our only superstar caliber people have been Harrison Barnes and Nassir Little. We don't get the John Walls of the world. We don't get the Demarcus Cousins of the world. We don't get the Kyrie Irvings of the world. Usually. What we excel at is team work and deep tourney runs.

2. You're talking about pedigree of players? We get fridge 5 stars and 4 star recruits most of the time. Especially after that stupid ass witch hunt from the NCAA. You can't expect those players to be stars in the NBA.

Look who has the high concentration of current players from specific colleges and they're nothing more than one and done facilities. Those players would have been great without going to college.

Our players have overachieved on average. You look at this year. Coby White and Cam Johnson got taken in the first round after not being on anyones draft board at the beginning of the year. That's through hard work, dedication, and skill people weren't paying attention to at the beginning. You think if Cam would have stayed at Pitt he would have gotten drafted at all?

Overall, I'm not getting your beef with Roy's players not becoming superstars. It makes no sense to me, because if you were actually paying attention about 99% of them weren't supposes to be superstars in the first place. Roy values seniority over what ever your ranking is. But if you're good enough to start, you will start. We can look at Kendall Marshall for that. Who by the way was having decent success in the NBA until he tore his ACL.
 

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funny how you think you know wtf you talembout.
yet if you did.
you would know i covered his finals appearances. In my comment about him only being Good.
for five straight quarters at Best randomly in the finals appearances.


again,...stfu and take your L.


you skim and do not know the source material.
nor the facts.
if you did.
you would know the reference to the disappearing act. Your unc hopeful but a bust was.
yet since you live in homer based denial. You failed.
to even one even say.
who you were even talembout.
Yet i knew and referenced his finals productions as well. Showing even more that you do not know this shyt like that.
that is why you came at me with that guessing game bullshyt. That is easily debunked.
as i know the source material and have actually tested my fact based shyt against the best consistently.

now move around and carry your fukk'n L with you.

I am from a real city.
you can not leave your belongings here.



art barr

you nikkaz with this, headfake like you know.
not fooling nobody, Chu nobodies.



tired of y'all fake'n.
nobody is fooled and in the long run. You gon get played being flaky and phoney.

y'all do not know this shyt and till you do a discovery zone to. You will always fail. You are doomed if you do not know your history and history, period.

keep thinking you can get by like some sheltered trust fund white cat.

this homer act from you is bullshyt.
ol, I got a family at home. I am at work soft on the net ass replies.
you know that table waiting on you.

A bunch of babble :mjlol:
 

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1. Since Roy Williams got here his standout talents have been Marvin Williams, Raymond Felton (not recruited by Roy), Brandon Wright, Danny Green, Ty Lawson, Wayne Ellington, Ed Davis, John Henson, Harrison Barnes, and Justin Jackson

Each one of those players except for Harrison barnes had no real expectation of being anything more than role players. Harrison Barnes has disappointed in the NBA a bit, but his development as an NBA player has nothing to do with Roy as he is not his coach anymore. While at UNC, Barnes had the green light. He was our first option and was pretty much able to do what he wanted.

Now as to why we don't have any superstars? Because we don't get superstar talent often. As far as our recruits in the past decade and a half, our only superstar caliber people have been Harrison Barnes and Nassir Little. We don't get the John Walls of the world. We don't get the Demarcus Cousins of the world. We don't get the Kyrie Irvings of the world. Usually. What we excel at is team work and deep tourney runs.

2. You're talking about pedigree of players? We get fridge 5 stars and 4 star recruits most of the time. Especially after that stupid ass witch hunt from the NCAA. You can't expect those players to be stars in the NBA.

Look who has the high concentration of current players from specific colleges and they're nothing more than one and done facilities. Those players would have been great without going to college.

Our players have overachieved on average. You look at this year. Coby White and Cam Johnson got taken in the first round after not being on anyones draft board at the beginning of the year. That's through hard work, dedication, and skill people weren't paying attention to at the beginning. You think if Cam would have stayed at Pitt he would have gotten drafted at all?

Overall, I'm not getting your beef with Roy's players not becoming superstars. It makes no sense to me, because if you were actually paying attention about 99% of them weren't supposes to be superstars in the first place. Roy values seniority over what ever your ranking is. But if you're good enough to start, you will start. We can look at Kendall Marshall for that. Who by the way was having decent success in the NBA until he tore his ACL.

Buddy just looking for attention. Most of these so called "college" basketball fans think all it is recruiting rankings (high school) and draft slot/NBA career. Then they throw the college coaches name in there to fit whatever narrative they try to spin. I've said many times on here, when it comes to "college" coaching, there aren't many on Roy's level. You're dead on when you talk about the caliber of player Roy has gotten and what he's developed them into. In fact, a recruiting class that was ranked in the 60's just became UNC's winningest class in a 4 year span. Haters are about to be sick, cause I honestly believe this draft class will all be good pros. Once we follow up Coby's ROY campaign with Cole being a top 3 pick, that hate gone be real thick. :mjlit:
 

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Buddy just looking for attention. Most of these so called "college" basketball fans think all it is recruiting rankings (high school) and draft slot/NBA career. Then they throw the college coaches name in there to fit whatever narrative they try to spin. I've said many times on here, when it comes to "college" coaching, there aren't many on Roy's level. You're dead on when you talk about the caliber of player Roy has gotten and what he's developed them into. In fact, a recruiting class that was ranked in the 60's just became UNC's winningest class in a 4 year span. Haters are about to be sick, cause I honestly believe this draft class will all be good pros. Once we follow up Coby's ROY campaign with Cole being a top 3 pick, that hate gone be real thick. :mjlit:

Exactly man these people here don't watch college basketball at all. And Cole is about to be special. I knew Coby was going to be good based off what I seen in hs. But Cole Anthony should be spectacular.
 

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Your idea of what a pro is sucks. You doing all that yapping, and yet another one of Roy's players hoisted a trophy and felt confetti this year.

That was Pop learnin', not Roy's ass.

Fucc Roy wit' his, "I might be Tim Allen's daddy"-lookin' ass.
 

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you mean the guy on paper that typically fizzled out like clock work.
in every final round after one good run of five straight quarters only?

you mean the guy who literally should have been benched for Powell. Where the Toronto lineup made no real scoring punch or mismatch sense.

when the starting lineup should have been:


Powell
kawhi
siakiam
ibaka
gasol

or the guy who disappearred. Then the heat systematically got pulled out and came back on. As they did not have to worry about his contribution any longer. That guy. The guy who really never materialized with LeBron too, right!?!!!

you nikkaz a joke to me in any discussion.

Call me when you get a time machine and spar with scoop JACKSON in your teens. In the height of the source and slam mag eras too.

you nikkaz have no pedigree to critique.
none of the shyt y'all discuss for real.

that is why y'all not known in nuffin.
as y'all some know nuffins.

ol guessing game as post, I had to reply to.
just cause you wanna cape and save a tall waste of nonshooting, no dribble driving waste of skin.
I know who yo crank ass talembout foo foo.

you do not know this shyt better than me.

if you did you would be known like:

art barr

:picard: You ok breh?
 

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Roy was at KU 15 years and got 3 players that went to the league and became a champion. K, however, has been at Duke damn near 40 years and has the same amount of players get a ring. Once again, I'm trying to figure out where this narrative comes from with Roy?


its not about how many players went on to win a ring in the NBA. its a team sport.

how many future NBA stars & all-stars came thru his program, is what this thread is about.


Hence me saying not many, and to be honest in the one and done era, i don’t count a one year stint at Kentucky Basketball camp as him cranking out superstars, no doubt he’s taught the kids some lessons, but Cousins, Wall,Davis and a few others were going to be them nikkas regardless of the name on the front of their uniform


yea but roy had players that were supposed to be big chit as well.

nassir little aint coming out of Kentucky as the 25th pick or whatever number that was.
 
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