Any scientist on the Coli? (updated)

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@Jimmy from Linkedin

I was going to say that you should speak up more but then I remembered that this is TLR .

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

@Jimmy from Linkedin

I was going to say that you should speak up more but then I remembered that this is TLR .

exactly breh i don't have the patience that you do, especially in the main covid thread. The way that this virus has exposed a huge lack of I guess, scientific curiosity, is somehow appalling and yet not surprising. It's not really even about science you know?

For example, a lot of people with this vaccine invoke Tuskeegee and the syphilis study, but how many brehs on this site know that it was a cac who exposed the study to the press in the first place? The TLR phenomena is really prevalent in our community and is so wack and so I I'll try to educate, to the degree that I can (despite the issues in my previous post), to work with these youngsters on the farm instead of people in my peer group. It's really disappointing.

 

[thenatural]

I have BS and MS in electrical engineering from two HBCUs. Not actually doing a lot of hardcore circuit design or working in the field I did in research in. Mostly applied physics. I wouldn't consider myself an actual scientist but whatever

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Majored in chemistry, PhD in streetology
Degree in drug industry
Combinin' H₂O with matter from crack batter
Residue molecules scatter
Launchin' rockets to make the pockets fatter
Mind brighter than Einstein's for crime
G equals the MC that ain't near the square, son I gets mine

 

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@Sterling Archer

 

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The TLR phenomena

It's rough out here. I was thinking of starting that thread. I might even do it one day. Not sure how it would help though but some things need to be said. Some things need to be addressed. Some things need to change.

Thread title: "Is brehdom tired yet? Really tired?"

Some of the posts that I have seen on here in the last 24 hours

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

It's rough out here. I was thinking of starting that thread. I might even do it one day. Not sure how it would help though but some things need to be said. Some things need to be addressed. Some things need to change.

Thread title: "Is brehdom tired yet? Really tired?"

Some of the posts that I have seen on here in the last 24 hours

Hmm.

Let's make this thread the launchpad for that first. I think there are enough bright minds ITT to address some of the things you are talking about, and some things I've shared below.

My fiancee is a physician and she has been equally appalled. She was planning to put together some sort of seminar with more black doctors addressing concerns of the public towards the vaccine. I told her it may not be a good idea to give the rabblerousers a voice, but instead to work with other physicians and sort of poll responses and see, where does this disinformation come from? How have your patients responded to what you've said about it? How can we address the emotional status of the people and move them through logic later? One of the things that she says is that "if your alternative treatments work, please start using it on these people that I am seeing in the ICU everyday. Please start working in your community with these preventative measures." Memesharing isn't preventative public health.

One thing we need to get straight is that despite their "consensus" hitting them with scientific "righteousness" is the game they play best. It does seem absurd to me that the same people that are decry what reality is, do not want to operate within it so that we can move towards a brighter, more regular future.

I thought that a lot of this stuff would drop off once Trump got pushed off of twitter, and out of office, because there'd be a less concerted effort [1]. For example, I've been seeing a lot less of people invoking Tuskeegee on my timelines in general.


I don't know exactly who is carrying water for these anti-scientific ideas except for the usual suspects here in TLR, but in the larger world, like what @Hijo de luna was talking about his thread, its even weirder and worse. Seeing the nonsense that the President of Tanzania has been talking about has been really disconcerting. [2]

For my friends, I also say, "I cant wait to get the vaccine because I am not trying to lose my sense of taste or smell. I just learned how to cook oxtails!" That usually gets a laugh out of them, in addition to talking about this guy. I don't want that to happen to me.



A buddy of mine last night was talking about that his friend got the 2nd dose, and she felt really bad, like she had been tied up and beaten with bats. My heart goes out to her. I'll prefer that to a cytokine storm any day. I'll prefer that to that video above any day. I can't even imagine, nor will I, losing my sense of taste and smell with how much i love my bougie ass coffee.

I think for some of these things, if we are serious about where science helps humans, we've got to work from a psychological framework and start people off on some therapy maybe addressing their unmet intellectual needs??????


[1]:After Twitter banned Trump, misinformation plummeted, says report
[2]:'Our God is beyond Satan' - Tanzania's president Magufuli rejects 'dangerous' Covid vaccines

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Thread updated.

I'll classify later

 

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Hmm.

Let's make this thread the launchpad for that first. I think there are enough bright minds ITT to address some of the things you are talking about, and some things I've shared below.

My fiancee is a physician and she has been equally appalled. She was planning to put together some sort of seminar with more black doctors addressing concerns of the public towards the vaccine. I told her it may not be a good idea to give the rabblerousers a voice, but instead to work with other physicians and sort of poll responses and see, where does this disinformation come from? How have your patients responded to what you've said about it? How can we address the emotional status of the people and move them through logic later? One of the things that she says is that "if your alternative treatments work, please start using it on these people that I am seeing in the ICU everyday. Please start working in your community with these preventative measures." Memesharing isn't preventative public health.

One thing we need to get straight is that despite their "consensus" hitting them with scientific "righteousness" is the game they play best. It does seem absurd to me that the same people that are decry what reality is, do not want to operate within it so that we can move towards a brighter, more regular future.

I thought that a lot of this stuff would drop off once Trump got pushed off of twitter, and out of office, because there'd be a less concerted effort [1]. For example, I've been seeing a lot less of people invoking Tuskeegee on my timelines in general.


I don't know exactly who is carrying water for these anti-scientific ideas except for the usual suspects here in TLR, but in the larger world, like what @Hijo de luna was talking about his thread, its even weirder and worse. Seeing the nonsense that the President of Tanzania has been talking about has been really disconcerting. [2]

For my friends, I also say, "I cant wait to get the vaccine because I am not trying to lose my sense of taste or smell. I just learned how to cook oxtails!" That usually gets a laugh out of them, in addition to talking about this guy. I don't want that to happen to me.



A buddy of mine last night was talking about that his friend got the 2nd dose, and she felt really bad, like she had been tied up and beaten with bats. My heart goes out to her. I'll prefer that to a cytokine storm any day. I'll prefer that to that video above any day. I can't even imagine, nor will I, losing my sense of taste and smell with how much i love my bougie ass coffee.

I think for some of these things, if we are serious about where science helps humans, we've got to work from a psychological framework and start people off on some therapy maybe addressing their unmet intellectual needs??????


[1]:After Twitter banned Trump, misinformation plummeted, says report
[2]:'Our God is beyond Satan' - Tanzania's president Magufuli rejects 'dangerous' Covid vaccines

I am not sure where to start and that is part of the issue.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Hmm.

Let's make this thread the launchpad for that first. I think there are enough bright minds ITT to address some of the things you are talking about, and some things I've shared below.

My fiancee is a physician and she has been equally appalled. She was planning to put together some sort of seminar with more black doctors addressing concerns of the public towards the vaccine. I told her it may not be a good idea to give the rabblerousers a voice, but instead to work with other physicians and sort of poll responses and see, where does this disinformation come from? How have your patients responded to what you've said about it? How can we address the emotional status of the people and move them through logic later? One of the things that she says is that "if your alternative treatments work, please start using it on these people that I am seeing in the ICU everyday. Please start working in your community with these preventative measures." Memesharing isn't preventative public health.

One thing we need to get straight is that despite their "consensus" hitting them with scientific "righteousness" is the game they play best. It does seem absurd to me that the same people that are decry what reality is, do not want to operate within it so that we can move towards a brighter, more regular future.

I thought that a lot of this stuff would drop off once Trump got pushed off of twitter, and out of office, because there'd be a less concerted effort [1]. For example, I've been seeing a lot less of people invoking Tuskeegee on my timelines in general.


I don't know exactly who is carrying water for these anti-scientific ideas except for the usual suspects here in TLR, but in the larger world, like what @Hijo de luna was talking about his thread, its even weirder and worse. Seeing the nonsense that the President of Tanzania has been talking about has been really disconcerting. [2]

For my friends, I also say, "I cant wait to get the vaccine because I am not trying to lose my sense of taste or smell. I just learned how to cook oxtails!" That usually gets a laugh out of them, in addition to talking about this guy. I don't want that to happen to me.



A buddy of mine last night was talking about that his friend got the 2nd dose, and she felt really bad, like she had been tied up and beaten with bats. My heart goes out to her. I'll prefer that to a cytokine storm any day. I'll prefer that to that video above any day. I can't even imagine, nor will I, losing my sense of taste and smell with how much i love my bougie ass coffee.

I think for some of these things, if we are serious about where science helps humans, we've got to work from a psychological framework and start people off on some therapy maybe addressing their unmet intellectual needs??????


[1]:After Twitter banned Trump, misinformation plummeted, says report
[2]:'Our God is beyond Satan' - Tanzania's president Magufuli rejects 'dangerous' Covid vaccines

This question is interesting to me.

I believe these reactions were not born recently, but that they have been inflamed by the current unstable climate.

It was a quickly made draft, but I tried to lay down some of my thoughts here:
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/con...-stupid-but-because-they-are-excluded.792840/

I believe that the way our democracies is set up is conducive to the blossoming of conspiracy theories.
Our societies make it pretty easy to be completely disconnected from the processes that rule our entire lives until shyt hits the fan. Then, (1) the lack of transparency when it comes to information in general, (2) the commodification of knowledge, as well as (3) the lack of accountability of ruling structures and (4) the impenetrable multiple layers of the democratic process as it is in action

cook up a storm that fosters fears and allows folks to be taken advantage of.

 

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I'm a numerologists

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

I am not sure where to start and that is part of the issue.

lets analogize it as if we were looking for the molecular mechanisms.

• Are we trying to determine:
  • How thought has become degraded?
  • Where the lack of scientific thought comes from?
    • How it specifically addresses black folks?
      • How to combat it?
        • What are the best forms of combat?
          • How to "judo" (what we perceive to be) ignorance?
  • Who creates this type of information?
    • How do we find them?
    • What do we do after we find them?
    • Does it matter who creates it?
  • What are effective techniques for working with this type of thought?
    • What, if any, are the historical predecessors?
      • Are there specific examples that are almost like a mirror image to what we are facing?

These are just some of the questions that we can begin from. Please add more before we begin answering them. Only then will we be able to tackle them appropriately.

 

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@Jimmy from Linkedin

I know you are eager to move ahead but let me think about it. To frame proceedings the important preliminary questions might include 1. what will be achieved 2. what the best / worst case scenarios are, 3, broad aims.

 

[Jimmy from Linkedin]

@Jimmy from Linkedin

I know you are eager to move ahead but let me think about it. To frame proceedings the important preliminary questions might include 1. what will be achieved 2. what the best / worst case scenarios are, 3, broad aims.

oh its no rush breh, im just encouraging you because im passionate about it. In reality, this is a limetime's amount of work that we will be able to contribute to. I have a copy of a book titled The Power of the Charlatan from 1939. One of the chapter addresses the "nature guru" type charlatan and traces specific examples from the 1500s...

Dr. Charles Finch said about liberation, something to the effect of, "if you aren't in it for the next 500 years, stop now."

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

not a scientist but what did he mean by this breh. I'm fascinated.

oh its no rush breh, im just encouraging you because im passionate about it. In reality, this is a limetime's amount of work that we will be able to contribute to. I have a copy of a book titled The Power of the Charlatan from 1939. One of the chapter addresses the "nature guru" type charlatan and traces specific examples from the 1500s...

Dr. Charles Finch said about liberation, something to the effect of, "if you aren't in it for the next 500 years, stop now."