Any Female without Strong Male Guidance and Leadership in her Life and Family is Lost and should not be Trusted nor Wifed. She Has No HONOR.

[Pull Up the Roots]

A lot of this thinking is just reheated, long-refuted nonsense from the Moynihan Report. You're using the same flawed ideas that pathologized Black families while letting systemic racism off the hook as he did in that bullshyt report.

You also don't understand what leadership entails and that it isn't about control, but about responsibility. The tired welfare myth gets repeated too much in these conversations, and it ignores how Black families were actually destabilized by racist policies, mass incarceration, and economic barriers, *not* because women supposedly chose benefits over men.

Instead of focusing on real solutions, your argument fixates on policing what women wear or how they behave, as if that's the root of the problem. That's just respectability politics wrapped in old fashioned misogyny. If "strong male leadership" is the answer, then step up and lead by example, and stop blaming Black women for the conditions they didn't create. Or you could be honest about what this is all about.

We have way too many failed , feminine males that were raised by toxic females dawg

Blaming "toxic females" for so-called "failed" men is just another way to dodge accountability. It takes two to make a child, so why are absentee fathers never held responsible for abandoning their families? If a man's presence is so essential, then the failure starts with the men who walked away, not just the women who stayed and raised those children alone. Instead of regurgitating tired, debunked Moynihan Report nonsense, maybe ask why so many men would rather attack single mothers than hold absent fathers accountable.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Black women playing prostitute to non black races of men literally evolved put of what I am discussing.


There is a reason why no women in our family deals with non black men.


The men in our family set a standard and the young girls don't want to deviate


But that all plays into the root causes of these issues.

But still the men of our community failed. Why is it so hard for us as black men to admit that those men failed and that’s why we are in the place we are as a community. I understand everything you stated but if those men were so called leaders and strong then none of that would’ve even been able to hurt us the way it did. We have to keep it a buck

 

[Bigwhite2498]

A lot of this thinking is just reheated, long-refuted nonsense from the Moynihan Report. You're using the same flawed ideas that pathologized Black families while letting systemic racism off the hook as he did in that bullshyt report.

You also don't understand what leadership entails and that it isn't about control, but about responsibility. The tired welfare myth gets repeated too much in these conversations, and it ignores how Black families were actually destabilized by racist policies, mass incarceration, and economic barriers, *not* because women supposedly chose benefits over men.

Instead of focusing on real solutions, your argument fixates on policing what women wear or how they behave, as if that's the root of the problem. That's just respectability politics wrapped in old fashioned misogyny. If "strong male leadership" is the answer, then step up and lead by example, and stop blaming Black women for the conditions they didn't create. Or you could be honest about what this is all about.


Blaming "toxic females" for so-called "failed" men is just another way to dodge accountability. It takes two to make a child, so why are absentee fathers never held responsible for abandoning their families? If a man's presence is so essential, then the failure starts with the men who walked away, not just the women who stayed and raised those children alone. Instead of regurgitating tired, debunked Moynihan Report nonsense, maybe ask why so many men would rather attack single mothers than hold absent fathers accountable.

I 100% agree and also even with those racist policies we wouldn’t be as bad off if the men of that time actually tried to lead. We as a race had been through far worse and never got off course before because those men actually led

 

[Gloxina]

A lot of this thinking is just reheated, long-refuted nonsense from the Moynihan Report. You're using the same flawed ideas that pathologized Black families while letting systemic racism off the hook as he did in that bullshyt report.

You also don't understand what leadership entails and that it isn't about control, but about responsibility. The tired welfare myth gets repeated too much in these conversations, and it ignores how Black families were actually destabilized by racist policies, mass incarceration, and economic barriers, *not* because women supposedly chose benefits over men.

Instead of focusing on real solutions, your argument fixates on policing what women wear or how they behave, as if that's the root of the problem. That's just respectability politics wrapped in old fashioned misogyny. If "strong male leadership" is the answer, then step up and lead by example, and stop blaming Black women for the conditions they didn't create. Or you could be honest about what this is all about.


Blaming "toxic females" for so-called "failed" men is just another way to dodge accountability. It takes two to make a child, so why are absentee fathers never held responsible for abandoning their families? If a man's presence is so essential, then the failure starts with the men who walked away, not just the women who stayed and raised those children alone. Instead of regurgitating tired, debunked Moynihan Report nonsense, maybe ask why so many men would rather attack single mothers than hold absent fathers accountable.

But still the men of our community failed. Why is it so hard for us as black men to admit that those men failed and that’s why we are in the place we are as a community. I understand everything you stated but if those men were so called leaders and strong then none of that would’ve even been able to hurt us the way it did. We have to keep it a buck

 

[The_Truth]

Honor is hardly a male-specific trait.

 

[Stuntone]

A lot of this thinking is just reheated, long-refuted nonsense from the Moynihan Report. You're using the same flawed ideas that pathologized Black families while letting systemic racism off the hook as he did in that bullshyt report.

You also don't understand what leadership entails and that it isn't about control, but about responsibility. The tired welfare myth gets repeated too much in these conversations, and it ignores how Black families were actually destabilized by racist policies, mass incarceration, and economic barriers, *not* because women supposedly chose benefits over men.

Instead of focusing on real solutions, your argument fixates on policing what women wear or how they behave, as if that's the root of the problem. That's just respectability politics wrapped in old fashioned misogyny. If "strong male leadership" is the answer, then step up and lead by example, and stop blaming Black women for the conditions they didn't create. Or you could be honest about what this is all about.


Blaming "toxic females" for so-called "failed" men is just another way to dodge accountability. It takes two to make a child, so why are absentee fathers never held responsible for abandoning their families? If a man's presence is so essential, then the failure starts with the men who walked away, not just the women who stayed and raised those children alone. Instead of regurgitating tired, debunked Moynihan Report nonsense, maybe ask why so many men would rather attack single mothers than hold absent fathers accountable.

You feminine guys and women what men to lead and responsible for our communities without control. You can rule over any group with control.

Absent tee fathers is due to women having kids by the same bum. One man can impregnate dozens of women.

 

[Sbp]

@Gloxina I'm responding to your comment about why didn't anyone do anything to stop the crack epidemic. I was a small child but there were efforts to combat what was going on at the time. Yes crackheads were outcasted. There were youth outreach programs to keep kids off the streets. A lot of older men and women used to run kids off of corners. A lot of men confronted dealers head up and got killed for it. There was a counter attack but it just didn't work.

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

A man with integrity is the building blocks of a family structure. You will have a hard time trying to get a woman to submit to you if she was raised in a single parent home and didn’t see her mother or other women doing it. A man will not be a leader if he didn’t see a leader growing up be it his father,uncles,grandfather. The main problem in the black community it has been under attack systematically and haven’t been able to defend itself because there’s no cohesion. We are divided via politics, economics, social standings. So you basically have house n1ggas vs field n1ggas and effects how we raise our children.

 

[Umoja]

Topics like this is why I'm happy they gave that fool who attacked the judge basketball numbers.

You spend so much time objectifying women that you can't consider their utility outside of being a wife. What makes it especially perverse is the people doing that shyt comprehensive skills is capped at being able to follow lockeroom talk.

 

[Mike Nasty]

This is one of those things there's no point in saying aloud. Half the people get butt hurt and try and derail, and the other half already know.

 

[CrushedGroove]

We really need a generation of black male healing and bonding to get back to brotherhood. This country has done a number on us, but since this country is not going to atone for that, we need to do the work ourselves.

This needs to happen in conjunction with shifting the priorities of our culture, focusing more on education and less on promoting the most destructive nature of our arts.

I know this is head in the clouds talk, and I don't have a plan of widespread implementation, but it doesn't make it any less true.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

You feminine guys and women what men to lead and responsible for our communities without control. You can rule over any group with control.

Absent tee fathers is due to women having kids by the same bum. One man can impregnate dozens of women.

Well, I was raised in a stable home with both my parents, and they're still happily married. So, I'm speaking from experience when I say that solely blaming women for the absence of fathers is unfair and misguided.

It's obvious when you say "control" that you mean it in an oppressive way. You just want to bend people to your will by dominating and subjugating them. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of leadership. You think it should be about coercion, and not responsibility. This is exactly why I don't believe dudes like you have a real desire to help the community, and that you just want to impose authority.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

You feminine guys and women what men to lead and responsible for our communities without control. You can rule over any group with control.

Absent tee fathers is due to women having kids by the same bum. One man can impregnate dozens of women.

Again you absolve blame for the father. He doesn’t have to be a bum or deadbeat father but he chose to make multiple kids with different women. That very mentality is celebrated on this forum. Also nothing is more feminine as a man than to blame everyone else for the problems you didn’t fix

 

[Mugenight]

This is one of those things there's no point in saying aloud. Half the people get butt hurt and try and derail, and the other half already know.

 

[Chrishaune]

You can't help a woman that doesn't want to be helped.

In America you're dealing with women that are indoctrinated into the Greco-Roman way of life.

That's not the African way of life. It's not the way most black men want to have their families living.

For black men, you have to understand the history of indoctrination to even be able to teach a family how they are to live in a society of indoctrination.

But a lot of black men have been indoctrinated into it themselves and don't realize it.