Anthony Davis just told Lebron

[R.U.L.E.]

MIDDLE-EASTERN

REMEMBER YOU WERE DMING DUDES SHIRTLESS PICS?

This shyt got me waking up my neighbors at 4am

 

[murksiderock]

Yeah I understand all this but the narrative surrounding LeBron and his legacy is that he’s chasing the ghost that played in Chicago

Another championship on his resume will be a great accomplishment regardless, but it ain’t even just about him getting FMVP over AD.

When nikkas look back at the 2019-2020 Lakers run in history the AD & LeBron duo will be remembered as legendary. But there’s always the trivial debate on who was the man and this one might not be a no brainer

I get what you're saying, but the only people who will question who was The Guy will be those who weren't around to see it and read the statlines, and those with an Anti-Bron agenda....

Those people will remain in the minority...

We've talked about this at work after every game, no one I know is under the impression that AD is the best player on this team, and I literally have a coworker who hates LeBron but as he recently said, "he's a winner, cant hate on that"...

Nobody questioned Nash as the driving force of Phoenix's success despite leading the team in only 1-2 categories yearly. No one questions Magic as the Lakers guy despite not leading in statlines aside from 1-2 categories yearly, in fact, there is an express and widely held notion that Magic was the best player on the Showtime Lakers, and because most of us weren't around to see it, some of us go thru the motions to force Kareem as even larger than he was...

So this narrative that you arent the best player on your team because you don't lead in most of the stats is obviously contrived and pushed by a vocal minority to shoot at LeBron, because there are examples where guys don't try this dumb shyt. More importantly, we've had almost an entire year of watching these two together, LeBron has been the best Laker. The fact that people even have to argue against it at his advanced age is something else...

And the fact AD could be morphing into something greater is huge for both...

Historically, there will be a small minority that questions who the best player was and it will be those who weren't around to see it and those who use it as a bullet point to detract from LeBron. As it is in real time, the vast majority of those of us who are watching it will affirm AD's greatness but that LeBron was the best player on the '20 Lakers...

BRON GROUPIES SHAMELESSLY WORKIN OVERTIME ALONG WIT THE MEDIA TO CONTINUE PRETENDING LIKE AD DOESNT LEAD THE LAKERS IN EVERY SINGLE STAT CATEGORY OUTSIDE OF ASSISTS IN BOTH THE REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFFS.

LAST NIGHT LEBRON WAS CRYIN BOUT HOW HE ONLY HAD 16 FIRST PLACE MVP VOTES WHEN HIS SUPERIOR TEAMMATE HAD ZERO.. DONT THINK AD DOESNT SEE ALL THAT.

IF U A REAL LAKER FAN N NOT JUST ROOTING FOR LEBRON, YOU HATE TO SEE IT.

LeBron leads the team in assists and steals this postseason, and has been the best defensive player by both DRtg and DWS...

Vs Portland, LeBron shot better than AD across the board, had more rebounds and more assists...

Vs the Rockets, LeBron led in scoring, assists, steals, blocks, and GmSc...

So stop repeating this false rhetoric, its tired and you're factually wrong. More importantly than that, it doesn't actually matter...

Yup, literally EVERY SINGLE VOTER put LeBron over AD in the MVP vote, but they're the "only ones".

Don't forget other NBA stars who said LeBron was MVP this year.

Don't forget Magic.

Oh yeah, and maybe LeBron/AD's own teammates too.

"What the players say" only matters when it furthers an Anti-LeBron take lol...

 

[murksiderock]

It’s like this forum forgot all those threads shytting on AD for being soft which weren’t that long ago. He got called out year long for not being as active in the 4th quarter

The fact that people think its reasonable to try to hold these guys as equals is ridiculous though, g. AD has never shown he can win at a high level, so when he goes all year disappearing in 4thQ's, you gotta call that out...

This will tell who really watched the Lakers play this season...when LeBron feeds AD early all regular season, then turns it on in 4thQ's all year, he's setting the stage for building AD's confidence, because they still ran actions for AD in the 4th and he still looked to involve him. He's telling and showing AD that you can be that guy to take us home when it matters, and these losers in here worried about how LeBron making sidebars about MVP voting sounds to AD lmao...

AD's performance last night, and hopefully the rest of the way, is the culmination of LeBron helping build him to thus point. LeBron can have a bad 4th in a Game 2, we know what he can and has done in higher stakes games and situations, not just for the entirety of his career, but this very season we're in. Anthony Davis can't have bad 4thQ's, we literally have nothing to go on other than his "talent" that he can perform in money time...

This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the Anti-Bron shyt on here. We're really having debates like LeBron's performance should be treated as equal to when AD has the same. It aint even a pattern, and if it does become a pattern, it's probably a symptom of age. More importantly though, the guy that so many think/want AD to be, is possibly becoming who he is as a direct result of LeBron's influence...

AD definitely ain't got the personality to tell Bron nothing of the sort lol... If you're worried about shyt like getting your share of props for winning and accolades, you don't force your way to play with him in the first place... If he had got traded to any other non playoff team that didn't happen to have Bron on it, lead them in damn near every stat, transformed their defense into a elite one, and made them a #1 seed who would've been a MVP finalist...that's just shyt you have to forget about when playing with Bron... And the Lakers are better for it...team is way too top heavy and reliant on the two superstars to be have AD sulking like Kyrie...I was geeked he hit that shot, cause being tentative in the clutch is the biggest concern I had with AD (other than health)...Bron is still gonna have to bring it home more often than not, but it's promising to see AD making strides

AD has been an elite individual defender but has never anchored elite defensive teams. AD has put up big numbers on perennial losers. I dont know what scale people are grading him on but it doesn't make sense------>guy is exactly the same as he's always been but now the team is defensively elite and the team is winning big and we're attributing that to the guy who has never driven that level of success before?

The reality is if AD was traded to another team they wouldn't be where they are now, AD would be at home for the conference finals...

This is the opposite of an indictment on LeBron and I dont understand why yall keep spinning it like it is...

That said, G2 was a positive sign, if it proves to be the "pass the torch" moment, it will be huge for AD...

Right. d Wade was the best player in that series

Hahaha why do yall keep doing this, no the fukk he wasn't lol...

 

[Leonard Washington]

I just remembered - Paxson did it in a bigger game than this one:



Ended up with 20 in that game including 10 of the last 12 until the Lakers had to start fouling. MJ wasn't even the leading scorer in that game, Pippen was with 32. And that was a Finals close-out game.



And that wasn't even the only time MJ let Paxson close out a championship:





Of course, MJ is the one that let Steve Kerr take the series-winning shot in Game 6 of the 1997 Finals, then let Luc Longley take the game-tying shot that sent Game 1 of the 1998 Finals into overtime, then let Scottie Pippen take (and miss) the game-winner in overtime of Game 1, before air-balling his own game-winner in Game 5 and then finally making one in Game 6. So the narrative that MJ had to take every big shot is dumb as fukk.

Gotta love receipts

 

[Ben.]

Iggy who held Bron to 30-11-9 on 49% shooting in the 2016 Finals, 34-12-10 on 56% shooting in the 2017 Finals, and 34-9-10 on 53% shooting in the 2018 Finals?

Still living off that 2015 glory I see.

And 2015 stats are hard to compare to anything because LBJ had a bad back and zero jump shot that year no matter who he played.

That being said, I love how Butler defends LeBron and think the combination of him plus Bam is indeed the best defense anyone can throw at him. If that's the Finals matchup it will be interesting to see how Miami's zones or LA's picks will allow LBJ to hunt mismatches on other guys or not.

Listen the whole point I'm trying to make is that they would be the toughest defenders LBJ would face, more so Butler because of past history and how he defends LeBron (much better at defending LeBron than Kawhi for example, which is why I didn't mind the Clippers match-up cause I don't think Bron would have been that much less effective compared to facing Jimmy).

 

[Billy Ocean]

I get what you're saying, but the only people who will question who was The Guy will be those who weren't around to see it and read the statlines, and those with an Anti-Bron agenda....

Those people will remain in the minority...

We've talked about this at work after every game, no one I know is under the impression that AD is the best player on this team, and I literally have a coworker who hates LeBron but as he recently said, "he's a winner, cant hate on that"...

Nobody questioned Nash as the driving force of Phoenix's success despite leading the team in only 1-2 categories yearly. No one questions Magic as the Lakers guy despite not leading in statlines aside from 1-2 categories yearly, in fact, there is an express and widely held notion that Magic was the best player on the Showtime Lakers, and because most of us weren't around to see it, some of us go thru the motions to force Kareem as even larger than he was...

So this narrative that you arent the best player on your team because you don't lead in most of the stats is obviously contrived and pushed by a vocal minority to shoot at LeBron, because there are examples where guys don't try this dumb shyt. More importantly, we've had almost an entire year of watching these two together, LeBron has been the best Laker. The fact that people even have to argue against it at his advanced age is something else...

And the fact AD could be morphing into something greater is huge for both...

Historically, there will be a small minority that questions who the best player was and it will be those who weren't around to see it and those who use it as a bullet point to detract from LeBron. As it is in real time, the vast majority of those of us who are watching it will affirm AD's greatness but that LeBron was the best player on the '20 Lakers...



LeBron leads the team in assists and steals this postseason, and has been the best defensive player by both DRtg and DWS...

Vs Portland, LeBron shot better than AD across the board, had more rebounds and more assists...

Vs the Rockets, LeBron led in scoring, assists, steals, blocks, and GmSc...

So stop repeating this false rhetoric, its tired and you're factually wrong. More importantly than that, it doesn't actually matter...



"What the players say" only matters when it furthers an Anti-LeBron take lol...

Breh, it's like you're wasting your time. These dudes gonna hate on Bron regardless. Like you, I'm around dudes all the time talking ball and nobody even remotely tries to say or even remotely imply that AD is the top player on the Lakers. Offline nikkas know it's Bron.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

The fact that people think its reasonable to try to hold these guys as equals is ridiculous though, g. AD has never shown he can win at a high level, so when he goes all year disappearing in 4thQ's, you gotta call that out...

This will tell who really watched the Lakers play this season...when LeBron feeds AD early all regular season, then turns it on in 4thQ's all year, he's setting the stage for building AD's confidence, because they still ran actions for AD in the 4th and he still looked to involve him. He's telling and showing AD that you can be that guy to take us home when it matters, and these losers in here worried about how LeBron making sidebars about MVP voting sounds to AD lmao...

AD's performance last night, and hopefully the rest of the way, is the culmination of LeBron helping build him to thus point. LeBron can have a bad 4th in a Game 2, we know what he can and has done in higher stakes games and situations, not just for the entirety of his career, but this very season we're in. Anthony Davis can't have bad 4thQ's, we literally have nothing to go on other than his "talent" that he can perform in money time...

This is one of the more frustrating aspects of the Anti-Bron shyt on here. We're really having debates like LeBron's performance should be treated as equal to when AD has the same. It aint even a pattern, and if it does become a pattern, it's probably a symptom of age. More importantly though, the guy that so many think/want AD to be, is possibly becoming who he is as a direct result of LeBron's influence...



AD has been an elite individual defender but has never anchored elite defensive teams. AD has put up big numbers on perennial losers. I dont know what scale people are grading him on but it doesn't make sense------>guy is exactly the same as he's always been but now the team is defensively elite and the team is winning big and we're attributing that to the guy who has never driven that level of success before?

The reality is if AD was traded to another team they wouldn't be where they are now, AD would be at home for the conference finals...

This is the opposite of an indictment on LeBron and I dont understand why yall keep spinning it like it is...

That said, G2 was a positive sign, if it proves to be the "pass the torch" moment, it will be huge for AD...



Hahaha why do yall keep doing this, no the fukk he wasn't lol...

....this is exactly the shyt I'm talking bout...
smh.. dog teammates matter... I just watched LeBron and all his magical super winning powers lead the Lakers to the lottery last season...they trade for AD (a perrenial All NBA 1st Teamer, All Defense stalwart, and who finished 3rd in MVP voting in his last full season before klutch tried to force him to the Lakers) and are now title contenders...I've watched with my own eyes be stellar on defense on a nightly basis, has all the advanced metrics to support the eye test...but nope how can we dare give him any credit for any of that...that was Bron...no other team in the world could've won with the addition of a top 5 player, AD on the Heat or the Celtics or the Clippers wouldn't had any success with AD cause there's no LeBron there...fam cut it out, this is disgusting and pathetic....the Lakers are in position to win the chip because they have two of the best players in the league...they compliment each other beautifully, and on any given night either one can be the best player on the team...they both deserve credit... that's not an irrational stance, other than when viewed through this damn near biblical devotion y'all have towards Bron

 

[god shamgod]

Yeah, you got them with this one.

yea right this info is well known who tf didn’t know paxson hit a bunch of jumpers in game 5 of the ‘91 finals.kerr was using The phil Jackson reference Talking to kd during the ‘18 wcf about trusting your teammates like phil told mike.

Again not one post showing pippen taking over a playoff game or hitting a game winner like wade did in the ‘11 finals,kyrie in the ‘16 finals ad in the wcf.

 

[murksiderock]

....this is exactly the shyt I'm talking bout...
smh.. dog teammates matter... I just watched LeBron and all his magical super winning powers lead the Lakers to the lottery last season...they trade for AD (a perrenial All NBA 1st Teamer, All Defense stalwart, and who finished 3rd in MVP voting in his last full season before klutch tried to force him to the Lakers) and are now title contenders...I've watched with my own eyes be stellar on defense on a nightly basis, has all the advanced metrics to support the eye test...but nope how can we dare give him any credit for any of that...that was Bron...no other team in the world could've won with the addition of a top 5 player, AD on the Heat or the Celtics or the Clippers wouldn't had any success with AD cause there's no LeBron there...fam cut it out, this is disgusting and pathetic....the Lakers are in position to win the chip because they have two of the best players in the league...they compliment each other beautifully, and on any given night either one can be the best player on the team...they both deserve credit... that's not an irrational stance, other than when viewed through this damn near biblical devotion y'all have towards Bron

This isn't a biblical devotion to LeBron--->he had them in 4th pre-injury, and came back still hurt for an injury he STILL is listed on the injury reports for, as of Gane 2. Almost 2 years later...

Pretend that returning from injury less than 100% and missing the playoffs is equivalent to never missing time to injury and missing the postseason, brehs...

AD went to the playoffs twice in 7 years. If he was the difference in contention and lottery status, explain what happened the first seven years of his career where he didn't bring that same impact to his squad? But I know a guy you're dissing who has had that EXACT impact his entire career, but he gets hurt and you're spin doctoring shyt lol...

I assume you have the "teammates matter" belief for LeBron as well, right? Of course you don't, you just contradicted yourself in one post, half his teammates missed significant time to injury as well and you're in here making a weak point about them missing the playoffs...

 

[Long Live The Kane]

This isn't a biblical devotion to LeBron--->he had them in 4th pre-injury, and came back still hurt for an injury he STILL is listed on the injury reports for, as of Gane 2. Almost 2 years later...

Pretend that returning from injury less than 100% and missing the playoffs is equivalent to never missing time to injury and missing the postseason, brehs...

AD went to the playoffs twice in 7 years. If he was the difference in contention and lottery status, explain what happened the first seven years of his career where he didn't bring that same impact to his squad? But I know a guy you're dissing who has had that EXACT impact his entire career, but he gets hurt and you're spin doctoring shyt lol...

I assume you have the "teammates matter" belief for LeBron as well, right? Of course you don't, you just contradicted yourself in one post, half his teammates missed significant time to injury as well and you're in here making a weak point about them missing the playoffs...

Nothing in my post is a diss to LeBron... saying that the other All NBA 1st teamer that plays alongside him deserves some of the credit for their success is NOT A KNOCK ON LEBRON , it's plainly stated fact and common sense... of course teammates matter for LeBron as the well, that's the whole reason I brought it up...the Lakers have been considerably better this season than last at any point before, during or after Brons injury ( @ LeBron being in a perpetual state of injury now too)...LeBron is the only the 2nd all-star teammate AD has ever had outside of the partial seasons he had with Boogie...he's had his own injury issues...what Bron went through last year is pretty much AD's ENTIRE pelican career...descrediting what he's doing now because of lack of success on previous crappy teams is nonsensical... He's been showing and proving what he can do on a good squad all year

 

[Sccit]

I get what you're saying, but the only people who will question who was The Guy will be those who weren't around to see it and read the statlines, and those with an Anti-Bron agenda....

Those people will remain in the minority...

We've talked about this at work after every game, no one I know is under the impression that AD is the best player on this team, and I literally have a coworker who hates LeBron but as he recently said, "he's a winner, cant hate on that"...

Nobody questioned Nash as the driving force of Phoenix's success despite leading the team in only 1-2 categories yearly. No one questions Magic as the Lakers guy despite not leading in statlines aside from 1-2 categories yearly, in fact, there is an express and widely held notion that Magic was the best player on the Showtime Lakers, and because most of us weren't around to see it, some of us go thru the motions to force Kareem as even larger than he was...

So this narrative that you arent the best player on your team because you don't lead in most of the stats is obviously contrived and pushed by a vocal minority to shoot at LeBron, because there are examples where guys don't try this dumb shyt. More importantly, we've had almost an entire year of watching these two together, LeBron has been the best Laker. The fact that people even have to argue against it at his advanced age is something else...

And the fact AD could be morphing into something greater is huge for both...

Historically, there will be a small minority that questions who the best player was and it will be those who weren't around to see it and those who use it as a bullet point to detract from LeBron. As it is in real time, the vast majority of those of us who are watching it will affirm AD's greatness but that LeBron was the best player on the '20 Lakers...



LeBron leads the team in assists and steals this postseason, and has been the best defensive player by both DRtg and DWS...

Vs Portland, LeBron shot better than AD across the board, had more rebounds and more assists...

Vs the Rockets, LeBron led in scoring, assists, steals, blocks, and GmSc...

So stop repeating this false rhetoric, its tired and you're factually wrong. More importantly than that, it doesn't actually matter...



"What the players say" only matters when it furthers an Anti-LeBron take lol...

AD 2020 PLAYOFFS
PPG 28.7
FG% 57.3
FT% 77.2
3% 40
RPG 10.7
APG 3.9
SPG 1
BPG 1.4
TO 2.5


LEBRON 2020 PLAYOFFS
PPG 25.6
FG% 54.7
FT% 72.6
3% 36.1
RPG 10
APG 8.7
SPG 1.3
BPG 1.1
TO 4.6

 

[Professor Emeritus]

yea right this info is well known who tf didn’t know paxson hit a bunch of jumpers in game 5 of the ‘91 finals.kerr was using The phil Jackson reference Talking to kd during the ‘18 wcf about trusting your teammates like phil told mike.

Again not one post showing pippen taking over a playoff game or hitting a game winner like wade did in the ‘11 finals,kyrie in the ‘16 finals ad in the wcf.

So it's okay for Paxson to score 10 straight in Game 6 of the 1991 Finals to close out a close win in a Championship-deciding game, but it's not okay for AD to score 10 straight in Game 2 of the conference finals against an overmatched opponent. Got it.

And Wade never hit no game-winner in the 2011 Finals, you're just making shyt up.

Somehow it's okay for Paxson and Kerr to hit series-winning game-winners in the final 5 seconds for the Bulls in 1993 and 1997, but if Kyrie shoots the ball with A MINUTE LEFT for the Cavs then LeBron is weak.


And do you seriously think Scottie Pippen is an inferior player to Kyrie? Or 2013 Wade? Do you think that AD is a more proven NBA superstar than 1st-ballot Hall of Famer Pippen? Come on, say it with your chest.

 

[god shamgod]

So it's okay for Paxson to score 10 straight in Game 6 of the 1991 Finals to close out a close win in a Championship-deciding game, but it's not okay for AD to score 10 straight in Game 2 of the conference finals against an overmatched opponent. Got it.

And Wade never hit no game-winner in the 2011 Finals, you're just making shyt up.

Somehow it's okay for Paxson and Kerr to hit series-winning game-winners in the final 5 seconds for the Bulls in 1993 and 1997, but if Kyrie shoots the ball with A MINUTE LEFT for the Cavs then LeBron is weak.


And do you seriously think Scottie Pippen is an inferior player to Kyrie? Or 2013 Wade? Do you think that AD is a more proven NBA superstar than 1st-ballot Hall of Famer Pippen? Come on, say it with your chest.

you said no stan wars remember? but came back quoting me with that captain obvious post enlightening fellow lebron groupies

I’m not these stupid nikkas on here you comparing a role player Jordan assisted like 90% of those points on to Dwayne Wade averaging 26/7/5 in the ‘11 finals while lebron froze up

kyrie Irving dropped 40 & averaged 27 ppg on 40% 3’s for a series & hit the championship clinching 3 over the league mvps face.you ‘re comparing 3 GAMES from role players to cats who led Their teams in scoring and were averaging damn near 30 in finals series

again show me ONE game pippen(which was my original? Not no damn paxson and Kerr)took over like ad,kyrie and wade have , you trying way too hard

 

[Professor Emeritus]

you said no stan wars remember? but came back quoting me with that captain obvious post enlightening fellow lebron groupies

I’m not these stupid nikkas on here you comparing a role player Jordan assisted like 90% of those points on to Dwayne Wade averaging 26/7/5 in the ‘11 finals while lebron froze up

kyrie Irving dropped 40 & averaged 27 ppg on 40% 3’s for a series & hit the championship clinching 3 over the league mvps face.you ‘re comparing 3 GAMES from role players to cats who led Their teams in scoring and were averaging damn near 30 in finals series

again show me ONE game pippen(which was my original? Not no damn paxson and Kerr)took over like ad,kyrie and wade have , you trying way too hard

Can you explain what you're trying to prove? At all?

Do you think that Kyrie, AD, and 2013 D-Wade are all superior players to Pippen or not? Do you think that MJ could defer to the hot hand late in big games or not?

Still unclear what you're even trying to argue.

 

[Somebody]

That Bron 4th ring is inevitable so this is what you sucka nikkas have been reduced to

it’s so sweet