Another right wing lie exposed kamala never paid beyonce for political appearance

[Turbulent]

Losing against the worst candidate twice after raising a record amounts of money is disgraceful.

The DNC is better at governing.

Trump is better at campaigning/winning elections.

The problem is, you have to win elections in order to get to the governing part.

The good news is that people on the other side really only fukk with Trump. He's the draw. He's the cult leader. It seems like other repubs who tried his strategy aren't as popular because they don't have his charisma.

From the outside looking in, i think its good to know your opps strength. Trump is charismatic, he's kinda funny (even when he fukks up), he really doesn't back down, and he's somewhat consistent in his messaging and policy positioning. It's like he created a character/persona he never really breaks from. Kamala was a shapeshifter. But the other repubs will also be shapeshifters.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Losing against the worst candidate twice after raising a record amounts of money is disgraceful.

Says more about the country than it does the DNC.

 

[Wiseborn]

So where all did that $1 billion dollars go as even major donors are asking that same question considering they’re asking them for more?

They spent it on ads consultants and door knockers

 

[Turbulent]

Says more about the country than it does the DNC.

Whatever it says about the country should have already been known by the DNC. If the DNC didn't already know that bigotry, misogyny, etc was present and didn't take it into account before the campaign, it speas to their ineptitude at winning elections. Despite all these things, let's not act like this election was impossible to win.

 

[skylove4]

Yet highly efficient. Make it make sense.

How so go ahead a list a few of the things he was able to do you know like that wall Mexico was going to pay for. The floor is yours stupid, don’t mess up

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Whatever it says about the country should have already been known by the DNC. If the DNC didn't already know that bigotry, misogyny, etc was present and didn't take it into account before the campaign, it speas to their ineptitude at winning elections. Despite all these things, let's not act like this election was impossible to win.

If one side is fueling its campaign through disinformation, how could your first and main concern possibly be at the "ineptitude" at the other side for not winning?

If I present irrefutable evidence of the Earth being round, but another cat says the Earth is flat and pollutes the the entire discourse to the point where dumb muh'fukkas actually end up believing him, is that really my fault or does that speak to how stupid those people are?

 

[Turbulent]

If one side is fueling its campaign through disinformation, how could your first and main concern possibly be at the "ineptitude" at the other side for not winning?

If I present irrefutable evidence of the Earth being round, but another cat says the Earth is flat and pollutes the the entire discourse to the point where dumb muh'fukkas actually end up believing him, is that really my fault or does that speak to how stupid those people are?

In your example:

If your sole job is to prove that the earth is round, you have a billion dollars, i expect you to go harder than the other side at cheating, and getting the job done by any means necessary. If you had twitter and elon musk and joe Rogan on your side (as much as i don't fukk with them) and you somehow manage to push their fanbase to the opposite side, that's on you because those were the main tools of disinformation and you had them on your side.

At some point, the DNC has to take part of the responsibility.

 

[Max Power]

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

In your example:

If your sole job is to prove that the earth is round, you have a billion dollars, i expect you to go harder than the other side at cheating, and getting the job done by any means necessary

This doesn't make one bit of sense.

The folks that are cheating are the ones telling the lies.

Unless you're saying the DNC should've made up a lie about Earth being a triangular prism instead, fighting disinformation with disinformation, and their "ineptitude" is that they didn't make up a more enticing lie to deceive the country? Is that the dystopia you want society to be?

If someone believes the Earth is flat, and you provide evidence that it's not, do you not understand that no amount of sound logic or reasoning will change their minds? Telling them just to "go harder" to convince folks the Earth is not flat would be futile. No amount of factual evidence will get them to change their minds.

If you had twitter and elon musk and joe Rogan on your side (as much as i don't fukk with them) and you somehow manage to push their fanbase to the opposite side, that's on you because those were the main tools of disinformation and you had them on your side.

What the fukk are you even talking about?

At some point, the DNC has to take part of the responsibility.

This is reductive reasoning.

If both sides were playing by the rules, and the GOP won because they had a more qualified candidate (whom wasn't a convicted felon), had more foolproof policies and ran a campaign that was more truthful and morally-just than the other side, and the DNC lost, then of course, the dems would need to bear the blame for losing.

But that is far from the case.

The weight of responsibility should fall on those who propagated those lies that allowed Trump to even be a candidate in the first place.

 

[Ziggiy]

If she DIDN’T get paid she hustling backward

 

[Absolut]

If one side is fueling its campaign through disinformation, how could your first and main concern possibly be at the "ineptitude" at the other side for not winning?

If I present irrefutable evidence of the Earth being round, but another cat says the Earth is flat and pollutes the the entire discourse to the point where dumb muh'fukkas actually end up believing him, is that really my fault or does that speak to how stupid those people are?

The party that says there are 30 genders and men can get pregnant is worried about disinformation?

 

[Turbulent]

This doesn't make one bit of sense.

The folks that are cheating are the ones telling the lies.

Unless you're saying the DNC should've made up a lie about Earth being a triangular prism instead, fighting disinformation with disinformation, and their "ineptitude" is that they didn't make up a more enticing lie to deceive the country? Is that the dystopia you want society to be?

If someone believes the Earth is flat, and you provide evidence that it's not, do you not understand that no amount of sound logic or reasoning will change their minds? Telling them just to "go harder" to convince folks the Earth is not flat would be futile. No amount of factual evidence will get them to change their minds.

What the fukk are you even talking about?

This is reductive reasoning.

If both sides were playing by the rules, and the GOP won because they had a more qualified candidate (whom wasn't a convicted felon), had more foolproof policies and ran a campaign that was more truthful and morally-just than the other side, and the DNC lost, then of course, the dems would need to bear the blame for losing.

But that is far from the case.

The weight of responsibility should fall on those who propagated those lies that allowed Trump to even be a candidate in the first place.

I'm saying Joe Rogan was a Bernie Bro, he should have been on the left side. I'm saying Elon with his EVs should have been on the left side. Just having these two pieces, you kill a lot of the RNC disinformation because you get some of the Rogan vote and you get twitter on your side. Also, the guy is a convicted felon, and awaiting trial for other criminal offenses, including one for inciting an insurrection. DNC should have gone WAY harder at trying to disqualify him from even having his name on the ballot, they should have applied pressure for him to be sentenced before the election in the case where he was convicted. They should have overwhelmed him so much in legal procedures that he wasn't gonna have time to campaign. To me, it's clear that they made the calculation that the guy is so bad, let's let him run. Same calculation Hillary made in 2016. They should have pressured Biden to step down EARLY instead of covering for him.

The disinformation piece, we are already in a dystopian future. Instead of relying on MSNBC and CNN, they should have heavy in courting, paying, etc influencers. But instead of going for influencers, they went for popular people. Instead of going for alternative media, they went for mainstream media.

There's so many reasons they lost and it goes WAY beyond "the other side is racist, sexist, homophobic"

 

[kingofnyc]

Donald Trump is the worst politician in history and it’s not even close. He’s literally retarded

but she lost to him … in a landslide at that

Are you saying like...she paid beyonce though?

I think you need to figure out why your party can't deal with the idea most celebrities lean left.

she had to pay them celebs … how can u spend a billion dollars on a campaign - the other report is they spent a few hundreds of thousands of dollars just to create the set for that podcast “Call me, daddy“

 

[skylove4]

but she lost to him … in a landslide at that




she had to pay them celebs … how can u spend a billion dollars on a campaign - the other report is they spent a few hundreds of thousands of dollars just to create the set for that podcast “Call me, daddy“

This has been debunked agent But you know who did pay for endorsements your daddy Trump. They had to pay this losers wife to do appearances

Melania Trump was paid for a rare appearance at a political event. It’s not clear who cut the unusual six-figure check | CNN Politics

Melania Trump has barely been seen on the campaign trail this year. One of the few times she has appeared at a political event, she’s received a six-figure paycheck – a highly unusual move for the spouse of a candidate.

amp.cnn.com

 

[Prodyson]

Your party couldn't beat a candidate who ranked last on all presidential surveys. Bringing up how terrible he was and still losing to him only shows how incompetent the DNC is and isn't some type of gotcha.

"hE's a FeLoN" = Y'all lost
"hE's SeXisT" = Y'all lost
"hE's RaCiSt"= Y'all lost
"hE cHeAtEd oN hIs wIfE"= Y'all lost
"hE wAnTs tO HaVe SeX wItH hIs dAuGhTer= Y'all lost


That's what y'all lost to. Crying about how awful of a human being he is doesn't change anything. Your party had four years, several court cases both criminal and civil, multiple assassination attempts and in the end this is gonna be the reality come January.

We not trying to hear all that bytching for the next four years. I'm spending those years trying to make more money I suggest you do the same.

While the Democrats didn’t do themselves any favors, that’s more an indictment if the idiocy of the voting public. They’d rather choose someone who is KNOWN to be the worst instead of someone who they disagree with on a few issues. It shows just how emotional and shortsighted people are, even when confronted with a truth that opposes their beliefs