Another Malaysian Airline crash this year

[TRFG]

22 americans on board. shyt about to get hectic.

It's gonna be a hot summer

 

[TRFG]

that "black box" is key......

Pieces of the plane, human remains, passports, and money were spread in a radius of 15 kilometers around the catastrophe in the region of Grabovo and Rassypnaya, experts of Russian ministry of emergency affairs (MCHS) and witnesses reported. During the first few hours of the rescue operation, rebel militia discovered remains of over 100 people. There were no Russian citizens among the victims. The “black box” from the airplane traveled to Moscow “for investigation” Russian radio Kommersant FM reported.

 

[RealAssanova]

Judging from the debris field, part of the plane was in a nose-down attitude when it hit the ground and the other scattered parts are elsewhere due to immediate explosion and disintegration caused by the missile.

black box in possession of the separatists..

shyt's gonna be tampered with. FAA, NTSB, Dutch and Ukrainian transportation and accident officials gotta get there right the fukk nowww!!!

although i'm sure a team is on the ground by now.

 

[pickles]

Ignorant question:

How come the bodies aren't burned up?

That is a good question. I think the people who were near the fuselage were probably burned up. But the one that were closer to the front of the plane or at the very back of the plane did not burn at all.

 

[Neil Tyson]

1 Canadian on board.

Wipe them out.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

that "black box" is key......

Pieces of the plane, human remains, passports, and money were spread in a radius of 15 kilometers around the catastrophe in the region of Grabovo and Rassypnaya, experts of Russian ministry of emergency affairs (MCHS) and witnesses reported. During the first few hours of the rescue operation, rebel militia discovered remains of over 100 people. There were no Russian citizens among the victims. The “black box” from the airplane traveled to Moscow “for investigation” Russian radio Kommersant FM reported.​

too late. the russians got that shyt

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Ignorant question:

How come the bodies aren't burned up?

Some of them are

they've found bodies scattered on the tops of peoples homes and shyt. Grusome shyt.

not everyone was killed in the fireball apparently. folks fell out of that jet.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Judging from the debris field, part of the plane was in a nose-down attitude when it hit the ground and the other scattered parts are elsewhere due to immediate explosion and disintegration caused by the missile.

black box in possession of the separatists..

shyt's gonna be tampered with. FAA, NTSB, Dutch and Ukrainian transportation and accident officials gotta get there right the fukk nowww!!!

although i'm sure a team is on the ground by now.

its a wrap.

that investigation is going NO where.

Thats why the US isn't even wasting time playing games with what happened. It was a missile. Normally they'd dance around the shyt and hold off on making a judgment.

 

[RealAssanova]

its a wrap.

that investigation is going NO where.

Thats why the US isn't even wasting time playing games with what happened. It was a missile. Normally they'd dance around the shyt and hold off on making a judgment.

Not only the U.S., but what about the countries who had their citizens on board?

154 Dutch, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, 6 Brits, 4 Germans, 4 Belgians, 3 Filipinos, 1 Canadian.

+ 15 crew.

Where that american count though? Summin ain't right...

 

[TRFG]

Not only the U.S., but what about the countries who had their citizens on board?

154 Dutch, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, 6 Brits, 4 Germans, 4 Belgians, 3 Filipinos, 1 Canadian.

+ 15 crew.

Where that american count though? Summin ain't right...

Probably the crew and dual citizenship holders

 

[RealAssanova]

NOTAM released today at 0000Z. Plane departed at 1000Z. So the pilots WERE AWARE of a major threat.

V6158/14 NOTAMN
Q) URRV/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/530/4818N04023E095
A) URRV B) 1407170000 C) 1408312359 EST
E) DUE TO COMBAT ACTIONS ON THE TERRITORY OF THE UKRAINE NEAR THE
STATE BORDER WITH THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE FACTS OF FIRING
FROM THE TERRITORY OF THE UKRAINE TOWARDS THE TERRITORY OF RUSSIAN
FEDERATION, TO ENSURE INTL FLT SAFETY,
ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD AS FLW:
A100 MIMRA - ROSTOV-NA-DONU VOR/DME (RND) ,
B145 KANON - ASMIL,
G247 MIMRA - BAGAYEVSKIY NDB (BA),
A87 TAMAK - SARNA,
A102 PENEG - NALEM,
A225 GUKOL - ODETA,
A712 TAMAK - SAMBEK NDB (SB),
B493 FASAD - ROSTOV-NA-DONU VOR/DME (RND),
B947 TAMAK - ROSTOV-NA-DONU VOR/DME (RND),
G118 LATRI - BAGAYEVSKIY NDB (BA),
G534 MIMRA - TOROS,
G904 FASAD - SUTAG,
R114 BAGAYEVSKIY NDB (BA)-NALEM.
SFC - FL320.

what this all means (for those who don't understand pilot jargon), certain airways (which are basically highways in the sky that all aircraft fly along) in and around the ukrainian-russia border, were forbidden from flying on from the surface (aka ground) upto and including 32,000 feet. MAS flight #17 was flying along a banned airway, but was at an altitude of 33,000 feet and not 32,000 feet, therefore wasn't breaking any regulations. The flight was also planned for 35,000 feet but ofcourse that could always change during flight.

Pilots took that risk.

 

[thekingsmen]

So far....

1. Unverified reports of advance missile fire on a commercial airplane
2. Many sides blaming Russia without proof
3. FAA's report warned people not to fly over Ukraine 3months ago
http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...hibiting-airline-flights-over-ukraine/374622/
4. The bodies look attached and recognizable, so there is no way they were shot down 33,000 feet and parts are not chard-broiled or extremely all over the place, hundreds of yards from the site.
5. All of the shot down capability the eastern Ukraine fighters have been using gla man-portable air defense missiles which are known that they can't reach 33,000 feet.

 

[Killer Instinct]

So it was shot down? I'm not well versed on politics - much less international politics - but uh...

 

[Dr. Acula]

Supposed translated conversation between rebels captured after this :

Translation:
0:20: A: Just now, just now, "Minera" group downed an airplane. It fell on Yenakivo.
0:26: B: Pilots? Where are the pilots?
0:29: A: We're going now to search and take photos of the wreckage.
0:33: B: How long ago?
0:34: A: About 30 minutes.
[At this point, video skips ahead to a different conversation, apparently some time later and between two different people]
0:44: C: Yes, "Major"
0:45: D: From Chernuhino, they downed the plane.
0:48: C: Who?
0:49: C: From Chernuhino post, cossacks that are stationed at Chernukino.
0:56: C: The plane broke up in mid-air, near Petropavlosk mine. First 200 (ed: ?). Found first 200 (ed: ?). Civilian.
1:12: D: So what's going on?
1:15: C: Stupid civilian plane.
1:18: D: Understood. Are there many people?
1:20: C: FUBAR. Wreckage falling right in peoples yards.
1:24: D: What model?
1:26: C: I haven't figured it out yet. Haven't yet gotten to the main debris. I'm still where the first bodies fell.
1:31: C: There's wreckage of internal containers, seats, bodies.
1:35: D: Understood. Are there any weapons?
1:37: C: Nothing at all. Civilian stuff, medical supplies, towels, toilet paper.
1:43: D: Any documents?
1:45: C: Yes. Indonesian student. From Thompson university.
[Another cut, several more people]
1:52: About that plane shot down near Snezhnovo Torez. It turned out to be a passenger plane. Fell near Grabovo, there's lots of bodies, women and children. Right now the cossacks are inspecting it.
2:03: On TV they are saying AN-26, Ukrainian transport, but are saying it's labeled Malaysian Airlines.
2:12: What was it doing in Ukrainian territory?
2:16: Maybe it was transporting spies. Who knows. It's war.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Able Archer part 2?