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@Get These Nets -- but this is known.
Is this just a hit thread cause she mentioned ADOS.
If so, please know we are not dumb -- and think she is for us and have our best interest in mind.
She said something that we all agree with. Doesn't mean we support her -- or looking for her nor want her to help us.
It was an acknowledgement and agreement of her statement -- nothing more - nothing less.
I love you too, and more important than that I respect you...a LOT. You raise the bar for the board with your posts/threads......especially the threads about family research and African American history that you've consistently posted.
I wasn't surprised to glance through some recent threads to see that you are organizing people to put actions behind words.
My most recent posts here have been about the use of media; a documentary about the history of the Black Press, a book of James Weldon Johnson's articles from 1920 highlighting atrocities committed by U.S. occupation of Haiti, and an appreciation thread for the Gil Noble show, "Like It Is". People with media platforms help shape public perceptions. Whatever their personal opinions are, they should be responsible enough to tell the truth and to remain consistent.
Since I've been here, I've consistently called out two people for violating this responsibility; Henry Louis Gates and Tariq Nasheed.
This thread was a direct call out of TN.His fans will not notice or call him out for inconsistencies and lies. (You and I are both waiting for his fans to cite the evidence/source material for the "buck breaking", for example).
I think people are going to be even more reluctant to challenge him now because he's identified/created another monster for them to fight. Foreign born or descended Blacks are the new villain, and if you're fighting the villain......I guess anything goes, including inconsistencies, contradictions and lies.
I'm gonna call out or debunk some of the more recent ones, beginning with Ann Coulter.
- "non ADOS should stay out of our business"
About 2 weeks ago, after years of feuding with Roland Martin, TN came up with new way to juelz. "Roland Martin is Haitian, THAT'S why he's always talking down to us" Non ADOS need to stay out of our business , especially reparations discussions
A week later, Ann Coulter, who has made an entire career talking down to Black people, and often directly to AAs, is thanked by TN (and other YTers) for "talking about AA business" and for getting involved in "reparations discussions".
Now, one can believe or project that RM has animosity towards AAs, but Ann Coulter has OPENLY shytted on, TALKED DOWN to, LECTURED, & PSYCHOANALYZED AAs for decades. Tariq reaching out to her on social media shows how disingenuous his callout of Roland Martin was, and also showed that he can be co-opted.
TN did a media tour promoting his recent Haitian Revolution documentary, and on those platforms he was discussing current political situation in Haiti and other Black countries.....such as South Africa. He was directly voicing his opinion about what the Black people in these countries should and shouldn't be doing.
There are non AA scholars featured in his Hidden Colors series discussing AA history, politics and current issues and voicing their opinions on what AAs should and shouldn't be doing.
Nature moved to Marcy, nothing left to say, Nature moved to Marcy.
- "they" sign a pledge to not help AAs as a condition of their immigration
FALSE.
This is comical, but I can understand how a non immigrant might think that this is real. It's a good conspiracy theory to promote ,precisely because target audience would have hard time disproving it. No such wording exists on immigration forms now or back in 1965 when the immigration rules were changed.No such questions were/are asked.
If anything, there are questions about communist party ties.
When I saw people believing and not questioning this, I knew that they had accepted the "foreigners as bogeyman" theme and would believe anything.
- "they" just don't want us to get that bag, because they won't get money
Reparations will probably NOT be decided by a national referendum. However, even if it was and EVERY Foreign descended Black voted against it, that would have no effect on the results. We make up a fraction of the total Black population and an even tinier fraction of the total U.S. population. Great conspiracy theory .
Also, it reduces the total value of a person's heritage to a possible bag of money. Helps promote the identity as defined by what people aren't rather than celebrating what people are. TN does know how to motivate his audience, though.
- here's what "they" all secretly think of you
I’m guessing at one point he retweeted a video compilation of African and Caribbean people shytting on AAs on social media. It wasn’t cab drivers, street vendors, lobby security guards or parking lot workers.,(the jobs most 1st generation Black immigrants do) because that wouldn’t have had the desired effect. I guess it was a bunch of professionals in their 20s saying openly disrespectful comments about AAs. They were all based in America and recording from their well lit, well furnished homes or workplaces. The direct implication is “look at these people eating off of your plate and here is what they all secretly say about you.” This is the same propaganda tactic that is used to take negative behavior of segments of AA population and extrapolate those stats to paint everybody with the same brush. Now, these aren't fake videos..there is a segment of foreign Blacks who do look down on AAs, I think you could use search terms on social media to find AAs looking down on Africans, Caribbean people or any direction towards any other direction. It's propaganda to take even 1,000 videos/tweets to represent any nationality or region. A person who was swayed by this had already made up his/ her mind.
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I have always shown respect to African Americans in general and to AAs who have shown me respect
- .I know about Frederick Douglas' fight to get Haiti formally recognized by the U.S. govt.
- I recently posted a collection of James Weldon Johnson articles from the early 20th century where he was using his influence to expose the motivation and atrocities committed by US occupation of Haiti in the early 20th century.
- I know about Black writers an artists(AA and otherwise) of the Harlem Renaissance introducing the Haitian Revolution to popular culture.
- I know about the AA churches that have been sending missions and setting up health clinics in Haiti EVERY year for decade
- I know about the AA journalists who used their platforms in the 1980s to combat the media saying "Haitians are part of the 4 Hs that have aids"
- I saw the public LOVE and support of AAs after the earthquake in 2010.Especially AA artists calling out Pat Robertson's "Haiti won freedom by making pact with the devil comments" as people lay dying in rubble.
I'd hope that people know about the direct inspiration that AA historical figures have directly credited the Haitian Revolution for giving them .Also about the direct offers that early Haitian leaders made to free AAs to get them to settle in Haiti when slavery was still legal in the United States...as well as other gestures from artists, celebs, and everyday Haitian people over the centuries.
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I’m also aware of the times that AA politicians, journalists, artists and everyday citizens have used their voices, resources and platforms to advocate for other Black people around the world.Post colonial Africans supported the American Civil Rights Movement and the radical wings of the Black Power Movement. I am pretty well versed about the connections that Black people have across regions and borders. Since I've become aware of who Yvette Carnell is, I've publicly supported her and any AA choosing to look after their OWN interests because in this world, if you don't look out for yourself, nobody will. What I have consistently been against is the anti-continental African element in her commentary. Not that she doesn't have a right to her opinion, but that she is distorting the truth to make her points. With her platform, doing so is irresponsible.
- I have no connection to Africans (except physical features) ,they might as well be Hondurans, they sold us
She opens the show with a symbolic pouring of libations. WOW. Unless she thinks that the film Cooley High is where "pour some for the brothers who ain't here" originates, she contradicts herself at the opening of every show.
Unless she thinks that EVERY living member of the tribes we descend from was sold off, she has living breathing connections to people on the continent. Both biological and cultural, as those of us in the diaspora are from composite cultures. The dominant groups from where we were enslaved had the most input in shaping our cultures. So we have cultural connections even to people whose groups we don't descend from. Whatever bad personal experiences she had with foreign Blacks doesn't erase history....and she insults my intelligence when she says this.I've gone over the they sold us part in other threads, and she's distorting facts to justify her views.
That she removed the first A (African) from the former acronym was noted also.
I say all that to say that people who read the anti-Black foreigner vibe implicit (and explicit) in the YTers promoting ADOS are not reaching. The reaching out to Ann Coulter, of all people makes it clear.