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Ann Coulter Call Melissa Harris-Perry a Token on Hannity
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No, he doesn't reference her work extensively. The only time I've seen him debate a "Black feminist" was like watching Fox News- he picked some clueless first-year college student and proceeded to talk over her while bringing up barely relevant subjects and straw men.
Anyone with a modicum of reason would crush Nasheed in a debate on the subject. This is the same idiot who said that Black feminist focus on "street harassment" by men was part of a conspiracy to get police to stop and frisk Black men more.
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Its sad how being in an oppressive system can turn you on yourself. Degrading and resisting Black female equality is not going to get Black men any closer to it, sorry.
WHY SHOULD I, black man, SUPPORT MELISSA HARRIS PERRY'S ILL TIMED JOKE?
yeah, the only problem i'd have debating Tariq on feminism is him controlling the phones and talking over me.
He's been stumped a few times but just steamrolls through.
I appreciate the guy, but he's largely wrong on feminism as a concept.
My baby Tamron Hall would have never backed down.
Lawrence O'Donnell is knocking that down
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...mron-hall-msnbc-anchors-dating_n_1249456.html
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CRABS IN A BUCKET!
Why is this about black women/men? This is about Harris Perry. Let's get back on topic.
Why is this about black women/men? This is about Harris Perry. Let's get back on topic.
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This is the only question. Why should anyone? We need to separate support all black women from a person making fun of something she should not have have.
Eh, this Black women/men thing is more relevant and important in general than this relatively minor Harris Perry thing. If the thread goes that way, it's not a bad thing imo.
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Nope. I disagree. Tariq is very fair with his guests. I've heard him debate many eloquent black feminists and he has more than held his own:
I've heard this.
Tariq likes to equate the history of black feminists with what feminism is in the first place
Thats like saying supporting civil rights is bullshyt because aspects of civil rights haven't been fully actualized from whats stated on paper.
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Judging by this, you haven't heard shyt. Listen again and let me know what you and @TheReal think.
Then please, let us know why there is a need for Black Feminism and what its overall goals are.
Dude.
Are you saying BLACK WOMEN can't be FEMINISTS?
Thats the fukking point. You're just taking Tariq's talking points about white supremacy to some extreme end.
To say that WOMEN, who happen to be black, CANT EXIST is RETARDED.
EVEN TARIQ ACKNOWLEDGES THIS. He said he supports womens rights...but he thinks the PRACTICE of a lot of popular black women are anti-black men...thats the problem.
The problem isn't "feminism" in itself.
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Fukk your corny debates
Tariq Nasheed is an uneducated charlatan who doesn't know shyt about feminism, or any other collective social movement or ideology with any appreciable depth whatosever. Tariq Nasheed has never read a book or any piece of published academic literature about feminism in his life. Tariq Nasheed is a clown ass self-promoting capitalist who doesn't give a shyt about anything but getting paid, and he sells lies to naive, weak-minded ignorant followers who have large vacuums between their ears, waiting to be filled with garbage that appeals to their fears and ego and provides confirmation for their biases.
If you think he's entertaining for whatever reason, cool. If you actually take him seriously at all, then you are doing a disservice to yourself, as well as your race and your community. Listening to Tariq Nasheed for understanding feminism is like listening to Sean Hannity for understanding of Keynesian economics. He appeals to people who have the losing combination of general lack of education, intellectual laziness, and the desire to be led by a charismatic figure or figures.
Black women on twitter talking about how nikkas ain't shyt does not constitute feminism and define black feminism anymore than black men calling people cacs on the coli constitutes and defines the black power movement.
Black feminism has always been about putting gender in the context of largest class struggles in society. Black feminists argue that black women were doubly restrained by the hurdles of racism and sexism, and that they were inexorably linked together with class struggle, and the end goal of overcoming gender barriers was thought to help overcome the oppression of all people. Many black feminists over the years have written extensively about how black women were ignored by the overall feminist movement, or how it didn't apply.
If you want to learn about black feminism, it's not that hard. Research it, and its origins and various ideological statements and positions. Read the work of Barbara Smith, Alice Walker, Mary Ann Weathers, and many others. It's pretty silly to claim black feminism is about shytting on black men when the National Black Feminist Organization and other black groups and individuals of second wave feminism were deeply steeped in black nationalism and the black power movement of the 60's and 70's. Angela Davis ring a bell?
Stop listening to some buffoon ass snake oil salesman who sells cologne, ball caps, jackets, and pseudoscience/pseudohistory documentaries, and lessons on how to mack to lame nikkas to inform your worldview. Research things independently and think for your fukking self.
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