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I ain't never seen no 'oat milk' at no grocery store in Harlem. :hubie:

It's probably there if you look, just doesn't catch your eye cause you weren't looking for it.

In California oatmilk is at every 99 Cent Only store. Basically the cheapest hood grocery store here, on everything except maybe produce they even undercut the little mexican supermarkets. The 99 cent only oatmilk is how I found out about it.
 

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no. 1 problem: anyone who speaks out against the grain oe "norm" is labeled a conspiracy theorist, which has a negative connotation.
I'm not sure about that. I speak out against the norm on a shytload of things that are considered normal (military, war, violence, capitalism, loans at interest, prison system, education system, corporate control of politics and social behavior, embedded police racism, American interference and atrocities abroad, corporate lies on product toxicity, and on and on), yet I don't think I've ever been labeled a conspiracy theorist in my life.

All you have to do is have enough citations to back up your shyt and make sure your citations are absolutely solid. If you just say shyt without backing it up, and people don't know you have backup, then of course you'll get labeled a conspiracy theorist.

Also helps to be actually educated on the topic. If the ONLY shyt you know is your conspiracy, but otherwise your background on the subject is really weak, then you're going to look like a conspiracy theorist because you jumped straight to believing the conspiracy without having a robust knowledge of what is going on.



a lot of this crazy stuff is hidden in plain sight
People can mean anything when they say that. It can be anything from "absolutely true" (say corporate sponsorship of doctors) to batshyt crazy (Wayfair is sex trafficking little kids in cabinets and publicly advertising them on its site).



Like pharmaceutical companies also controlling food production
Clarify?

For me Monsanto is public enemy #1 in terms of food production, but they're a chemical company not a pharmaceutical.
 

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Clarify?

For me Monsanto is public enemy #1 in terms of food production, but they're a chemical company not a pharmaceutical.
Monsanto is owned by Bayer, one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies. you said all that and didn't have background knowledge on a company YOU mentioned


plain sight bro
 

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This is so :mjpls: even MJ is like :mjtf:.
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fukk all that Coli shyt nikka …I got people that work in Harlem. My kids school is in Harlem and I hate that shyt

I hate that 2 train station at 110th and Lenox the shyt is disgusting:pacspit:

I gotta walk past nikkas sellin crack on the stairs to take the train like it’s 1989 fukk outta here
 
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that was a recent acquisition.
almost 3 years ago, and most people don't know to care. my wife and I recently had a discussion about big pharma after watching Dopesick and that led to us discussing how these companies meddle with food production. In layman's terms, it's a concerted effort to feed us BS so our immune systems are weak and we get sick more often. Then these same companies turn around and sell us remedies for ailments caused by their products. You should look into that, the info is out there.
 

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almost 3 years ago, and most people don't know to care. my wife and I recently had a discussion about big pharma after watching Dopesick and that led to us discussing how these companies meddle with food production. In layman's terms, it's a concerted effort to feed us BS so our immune systems are weak and we get sick more often. Then these same companies turn around and sell us remedies for ailments caused by their products. You should look into that, the info is out there.
i'm just saying they own them now, but it's not like it was monsanto "owned by a pharmaceutical giant" who was getting up to all that fukk shyt since the end of world war II. the damage was done long before bayer came on the scene.
 

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i'm just saying they own them now, but it's not like it was montasanto "owned by a pharmaceutical giant" who was getting up to all that fukk shyt since the end of world war II. the damage was done long before bayer came on the scene.
i didn't say they owned them for 75+ years, i said they own them and i wasn't wrong. the food industry's ties to pharmaceuticals reaches back further than that acquisition breh. if you choose to ignore it, that's on you. what you said was false
 

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Monsanto is owned by Bayer, one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies. you said all that and didn't have background knowledge on a company YOU mentioned


plain sight bro

Breh, Bayer's acquisition of Monsanto came just 3 years ago. Monsanto has been a POS company for at least 50 years, nothing has changed in the last 3 years except that Bayer actually settled some of the litigation that Monsanto had been slow-playing since forever. I've been reading on Monsanto's bullshyt since the 1990s, I honestly forgot that Bayer even acquired them because I haven't done any dive into them recently, but what meaningful has changed since Bayer took control?

This is the sort of superficial surface-level discussion that gets annoying. You've had two chances to explain yourself now and so far the entire substance of your conspiracy is "Bayer owns Monsanto!", an acquisition that literally just happened. Redeem yourself and explain something regarding how Bayer's acquisition of Monsanto in 2018 made any difference in our food whatsoever.




my wife and I recently had a discussion about big pharma after watching Dopesick and that led to us discussing how these companies meddle with food production. In layman's terms, it's a concerted effort to feed us BS so our immune systems are weak and we get sick more often. Then these same companies turn around and sell us remedies for ailments caused by their products. You should look into that, the info is out there.
Nah, this is the dumbass conspiracy shyt I was talking about. Monsanto has been doing fukk shyt since at least the Vietnam War but you want to boil that down to an acquisition that just happened?

I've posted on Monsanto on this forum since 2015, long before the acquisition happened, their bullshyt has nothing to do with Bayer.
The problem being, of course, that if you start applying lots of herbicide, that fact mixed with the fact that you've introduced a GM gene into the environment means that some weeds will eventually pick up that herbicide resistance gene from your crops, forcing you to use greater quantities of herbicide or new and more deadly varieties, leading to new resistance, and so on. It's a stupid cycle to enter into, but Monsanto is doing it with all their might because short-term profits matter more to them than negative side effects 20-30 years down the road.

GM crops created superweed, say scientists
it's evil as fukk. The very idea that you can patent living organisms which reproduce on their own accord is stupid as hell.

But the precedent already BEEN set. Monsanto has been suing small farmers for 20+ years now.

"Between 1997 and 2010, Monsanto sued at least 144 farmers and settled with some 700 others it accused of growing their patented GMO crops — often canola seed or soybeans — without purchase. Gag orders were imposed on those who settled. The irony here is that these growers wanted nothing to do with the GMO crops. They claim that the GMO crops trespassed on their property and grew there without their knowledge or consent. (Monsanto also prohibits farmers from saving seed from the previous year’s GMO harvest, an age-old farming practice. Seed can be fed to livestock but not replanted."

The Problem with GMOs and GM Crops | Planet Natural

Monsanto can sue farmers when GMO contamination goes over one percent of their crop | Green America

Monsanto sued small famers to protect seed patents, report says

Agricultural Giant Battles Small Farmers

GMOs — Top five concerns for family farmers – Farm Aid


As I've said before, I had a close family member who was fairly high up in Monsanto [retired in the 1990s] and I can confirm they're an evil fukking company who will do anything for profit. A huge amount of their practices make the world a worse place to live.
I have a HUGE problem with what Monsanto does to farmers, to farms, and to our environment.

* GMO encourages gigantic monocultures, which are awful for the environment.

* GMO encourages putting the same crops everywhere, rather than fitting the crop to the land.

* GMO encourages more corporate control over farmers, higher debts for farmers, and often forces out smaller farmers through a variety of unethical means.

* GMO encourages farming practices based on artificial pesticide and fertilizer use and unnatural irrigation, rather than fitting the crop to the land. Besides the other problems, these create massive topsoil run-off, which is a horrific coming disaster that hardly anyone is looking out for (because it's hard as hell to replace true topsoil).

* GMO encourages the use of annual, unsustainable crops, which increase resource depletion.

* GMO encourages farming decisions to be made thousands of miles away from the actual farm, thousands of miles away from the farmer himself.

* GMO encourages food products that grow as large as possible as fast as possible. But a plant can only pull so many nutrients out of the soil...which means that the bigger and faster the plant grows, the less nutritious it is per bite. You can sell it for just as much per pound in the supermarket, but there's less actual substance there - it's just water/fertilizer with a touch of sunlight quickly converted into plant form.

* I had a very close personal acquaintance in a high-level engineering position in Monsanto (not GM though). Monsanto is definitely willing to do evil. This can apply to anything, not just GMO, but trust me - they are as do-whatever-the-fukk-we-want-for-profit greedy company as you can imagine.

How can you claim Monsanto's goal was to "get us sick so they could sell us remedies" when they had jack shyt to do with selling us remedies the entire time that was going on? This sounds like something you just stumbled in to and that single connection was enough for you to build a whole conspiracy off of.
 
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