Andrewyoung : The Problem is Blacks Killing Other Blacks, Not the Confederate Flag

[AJaRuleStan]

I have not created a strawman and attempted to destroy it

A post or so in, our exchange turned into a question about what the flag symbolize with you somehow concluding some position that me and Young took on that subject. Which by your own words, I gather, was the notion that I took the stance that the perception of the flag being tied to offensive ideas/history is somehow a invalid perception to have. I found this quite absurd from my end because I never even mentioned my personal view regarding the flag in any context, itt. And Young acknowledged the subjectivity regarding the flag as a symbol itt. Hopefully we cleared up the confusion on this front.

The main topic was me saying that he didn't need to change the topic about the banning of the flag to black on black violence since that takes attention away from the flag.

That was his whole point. Also, he didn't just bring up the black on black point solely for derailing, he used it to perform "A compared to what" type of measure so he could speak with accuracy when he pointed out the "Flag debate" is in fact not worth the value of attention it's being assigned. His logic is valid too. If I asked you to tell me is a College GPA of 1.5 good or bad, you will reason by performing some sort of comparing. Young is applying the same logic, but in this context black well-being is the subject, not GPA.

 

[Blackout]

A post or so in, our exchange turned into a question about what the flag symbolize with you somehow concluding some position that me and Young took on that subject. Which by your own words, I gather, was the notion that I took the stance that the perception of the flag being tied to offensive ideas/history is somehow a invalid perception to have. I found this quite absurd from my end because I never even mentioned my personal view regarding the flag in any context, itt. And Young acknowledged the subjectivity regarding the flag as a symbol itt. Hopefully we cleared up the confusion on this front.


That was his whole point. Also, he didn't just bring up the black on black point solely for derailing, he used it to perform "A compared to what" type of measure so he could speak with accuracy when he pointed out the "Flag debate" is in fact not worth the value of attention it's being assigned. His logic is valid too. If I asked you to tell me is a College GPA of 1.5 good or bad, you will reason by performing some sort of comparing. Young is applying the same logic, but in this context black well-being is the subject, not GPA.

There isn't any different views to be had. The flag is tied to confederates and the KKK and that's a fact lol.

Many people all over white media brings up black on black crime. It has enough exposure.

He did derail by bringing it up, intentional or not.

The topic of racists whites does not get as much exposure as black on black crime which is why what he did was wrong.

That flag deserves as much attention as black and black crime because it finally addresses racists whites. Something that is rarely done in this country.

 

[PhonZhi]

That flag deserves as much attention as black and black crime because it finally addresses racists whites. Something that is rarely done in this country.

Good point

 

[scarlxrd]

D level deflections don't get a rise out of me anymore

 

[Fenian]

Why is black on black crime always brought up like this? Other races kill each other too. When a white person is killed 84% it was another white that killed them.

 

[Danie84]

It hurts more when our Civil Right Activist plays the Deflection Game for Racism

...so he basically called the Kettle Black

And here lies why our Social Injustice is still problematic

 

[Westcoastnative]

Black on black violence AND white supremacy/racism both need to be addressed in my opinion.