Andre Ward/Gennady Golovkin Roadblocked Over Weight

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get the same tv ratings as early morning paid programming and be delusional about being a draw brehs
 

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Wards paycheck for the smith fight was based off his drawing ability from before 2013. Now that he just got paid $2million and had what, 200k viewers on BET? Do you think he will get that paycheck from his promotor again for fighting a bum? Didnt they have to give out all sorts of jesus discounts and free tickets just to fill up the oracle? Ward is taking a paycut in his next fight unless he fights a decent name fighter. Wort-gang need to be realistic.

We'll just see now won't we, if they don't fight each other and he does in fact make more his next fight (just like he always has) I wonder what the "bbbbbut" will be. :sog:

Off the top of my head, didnt SRL give hagler the bigger cut just to get the fight done?

SRL took less cash from the purse but he had % from the close circuit which Hagler didn't get, picked the gloves ring size etc. I'm sure @hyperman25 would know more than me though Hagler is his guy.


I asked for one example of a fight with a definite a/b where everything is split 50/50 and I'm still waiting :francis:



SRL was coming off 3 years inactivity

Yup.

Doesn't mean anything though because draw is determined by feelings :blessed:

I feel like no one in the tri state area can see me with the hands :birdman: I don't have to actually prove this right :merchant: nah as long as I feel it we good :whew:
 
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SRL took less cash from the purse but he had $ from the close circuit which Hagler didn't get, picked the gloves ring size etc. I'm sure @hyperman25 would know more than me though Hagler is his guy.


I asked for one example of a fight with a definite a/b where everything is split 50/50 and I'm still waiting :francis:





Yup.

Doesn't mean anything though because draw is determined by feelings :blessed:

I feel like no one in the trip state area can see me with the hands :birdman: I don't have to actually prove this right :merchant: nah as long as I feel it we good :whew:

yeah @Mook filled in all the details that i missed.


Hagler was guaranteed $12 million plus a percentage of the revenue. Leonard was guaranteed $11 million plus 50 percent of the closed circuit television rights in the Baltimore-Washington area. Hagler ended up with about $20 million and Leonard $12 million. After Leonard agreed to let Hagler have the larger purse, Hagler agreed to let Leonard choose the gloves (10-ounce Reyes), the number of rounds (12) and the size of the ring (20-foot)
 

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#ShookBoys did a great job of derailing this exposal of "anyone from 154-168 can get it we'll move up to 168 and ko Ward in 6, send us an offer" :duck: into them worrying about the draw of a guy who makes more than their fighter :mjlol:

yeah @Mook filled in all the details that i missed.

Damn didn't know dude picked the rounds too :dwillhuh:
 

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i mean both fighters need this fight

not many options beyond this fight for either guy right now

hopefully it gets done
 

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We'll just see now won't we, if they don't fight each other and he does in fact make more his next fight (just like he always has) I wonder what the "bbbbbut" will be. :sog:



SRL took less cash from the purse but he had % from the close circuit which Hagler didn't get, picked the gloves ring size etc. I'm sure @hyperman25 would know more than me though Hagler is his guy.


I asked for one example of a fight with a definite a/b where everything is split 50/50 and I'm still waiting :francis:





Yup.

Doesn't mean anything though because draw is determined by feelings :blessed:

I feel like no one in the tri state area can see me with the hands :birdman: I don't have to actually prove this right :merchant: nah as long as I feel it we good :whew:

50/50 is fair in my opinion :yeshrug: Wards got some fans in Oakland, thats about it. GGG sells tickets all over europe and the states, he has a wider fanbase. Ward is an ant on the world stage

Ward is the overwhelming favourite at 168 :yeshrug:

164 makes it interesting, @krackdagawd and @Newzz do you think Ward beats GGG at 164? :patrice::mjpls:
 

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#ShookBoys did a great job of derailing this exposal of "anyone from 154-168 can get it we'll move up to 168 and ko Ward in 6, send us an offer" :duck: into them worrying about the draw of a guy who makes more than their fighter :mjlol:



Damn didn't know dude picked the rounds too :dwillhuh:


:manny:

hagler should have got a mandatory rematch clause put in contract just to be on the safe side.
 

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50/50 is fair in my opinion :yeshrug: Wards got some fans in Oakland, thats about it. GGG sells tickets all over europe and the states, he has a wider fanbase. Ward is an ant on the world stage

Ward is the overwhelming favourite at 168 :yeshrug:

164 makes it interesting, @krackdagawd and @Newzz do you think Ward beats GGG at 164? :patrice::mjpls:

I agree 50/50 is fair. Not once have I said that Ward was a draw on here or sohh. I think he does well for someone who fights in his style draw wise. He could easily be a bigger draw by turning heel or acting like a bafoon but that isn't him. He has said multiple times he rather have a few fans that like him for being him than millions that like him for acting out or tuning in just to see him lose. I respect it. :obama:

As far as the weight he hasn't made 168 since the Edwin fight, no way he would be healthy at 164. I don't think early 20s Ward could fight at that weight forget the 31 yr old version I'd rather no fight at all than a fight at 164.

I just find it funny how now they want a catchweight. All of this started because team - - - were the ones who said they'd go up to 168 and ko him. :francis:
 

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50/50 is fair in my opinion :yeshrug: Wards got some fans in Oakland, thats about it. GGG sells tickets all over europe and the states, he has a wider fanbase. Ward is an ant on the world stage

He's fighting in venues that don't even hold 1000 people in Europe. :patrice:

Before he linked up with HBO...he could barely fill up a gymnasium in Germany...even when he had the WBA title.

His core fanbase is in the U.S. I don't think you can class him as a dude that can "sell tickets all over Europe" or somebody that has some huge international following when he's fighting in venues overseas that only hold 1000 people.
 

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He's fighting in venues that don't even hold 1000 people in Europe. :patrice:

Before he linked up with HBO...he could barely fill up a gymnasium in Germany...even when he had the WBA title.

His core fanbase is in the U.S. I don't think you can class him as a dude that can "sell tickets all over Europe" or somebody that has some huge international following when he's fighting in venues overseas that only hold 1000 people.

There go those darn facts getting in the way again :beli:
 
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