Andre Ward: Froch doesn’t want the rematch

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Nah its simple economics . . Hearn and Froch know that we wouldnt fill Wembley stadium fight a guy with zero fans outside "SOG-gang" which has what? 5 members on the coli + wards immediate family?

Froch could easily fill out the City Ground for the fight (40,000+ Froch fans) but unlikely to get 80,000 in wembley when Ward will have <100 fans who will travel from the states to watch him. This bum Ward cant even sell out his home town arena which is <10,000 seats, what the fukk is he smoking thinking 80,000 people across the pond will want to pay to watch him fight?

Ward is delusional, and turned down the fight in Nottingham, what else is there to say? :francis:
 

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Nah its simple economics . . Hearn and Froch know that we wouldnt fill Wembley stadium fight a guy with zero fans outside "SOG-gang" which has what? 5 members on the coli + wards immediate family?

Froch could easily fill out the City Ground for the fight (40,000+ Froch fans) but unlikely to get 80,000 in wembley when Ward will have <100 fans who will travel from the states to watch him. This bum Ward cant even sell out his home town arena which is <10,000 seats, what the fukk is he smoking thinking 80,000 people across the pond will want to pay to watch him fight?

Ward is delusional, and turned down the fight in Nottingham, what else is there to say? :francis:

What til the morning when I'm not high:ufdup:
 

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I see you left out 160 N GGG :youngsabo:

I don't blame you after 2Cac dropped hit em up 2015 :pachaha:
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Golovpac Ran up in HBO offices N told Andre im ready :pacspit:

Ward sat there :merchant: with the bu bu buts :damn:

N now a CAC from the land of Borat gets cheers in Cali while Ward gets boos :scusthov:

Dont Worry tho the Mexican Hero is being properly trained N he's not scary or will be punked by GGG :smugjr:


my nikka said 2cac :dead:

Real talk though Ward is the most pathetic boxer in history of this sport.

This fakkit is out here chasing a person he already beat and a guy in a division under him :dead:
 

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Im not high anymore....everybody getting it today:birdman:


l'm about to beat on some real murder shyt, @krackdagawd :demonic:
l'm telling you, man:ufdup:
Any nikka that ever looked at #SOGGang wrong, owes us coli cash, or over said any jealous bullshyt about my Boxers is fukkin' dead:mjcry:

You understand what the fukk l'm saying, @krackdagawd?:to:

They're fukkin' dead, man:mjcry:

l don't give a fukk about nothing, man.:mjcry:


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Nah its simple economics . . Hearn and Froch know that we wouldnt fill Wembley stadium fight a guy with zero fans outside "SOG-gang" which has what? 5 members on the coli + wards immediate family?
Froch could easily fill out the City Ground for the fight (40,000+ Froch fans) but unlikely to get 80,000 in wembley when Ward will have <100 fans who will travel from the states to watch him. This bum Ward cant even sell out his home town arena which is <10,000 seats, what the fukk is he smoking thinking 80,000 people across the pond will want to pay to watch him fight?
Ward is delusional, and turned down the fight in Nottingham, what else is there to say? :francis:


We said we'd fight him at the O2 Arena as well, or are you gonna conveniently leave that out?:mjpls:



We fought you in Atlantic City, which is FURTHER from Ward's backyard than the O2 Arena is from Nottingham....but like Froch AND Hearn has said, they know they have no chance to beat him on points and have ADMITTED that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, outside of Nottingham, but they want to have it there for 1 reason only. To basically rob him:camby:



“We know Andre is happy to come to England but we want it at the City Ground in Nottingham and he doesn’t want to come to the City Ground. That’s been one of the big holdups. He says he’ll come to another venue but not Nottingham.

“But, to be honest with you and to be completely truthful, if we are going to fight Andre Ward we want as much advantage as possible. It’s a really tough fight. Ward is arguably the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. We want to get as many advantages as we can.


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/385021-andre-ward-says-no-to-nottingham-carl-froch-rematch-in-limbo



You, @firemanBk, or @ChocolateGiddyUp explain to us WHY would any fighter agree to some bullshyt like that?:comeon:


You're telling the world that you KNOW already that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, but because you already know that there is no possible way that your fighter can beat him, you intend on having "as many advantages as possible" ie, rob him?:dahell:


That's corny and not really worth defending if you're being honest as a Boxing fan:camby:


Frochy Froch and his #BandOfMerryMen can take his ass back to Nottingham and retire knowing that he lost to The GOAT Super Middleweight who beat him with 1 hand, and that he was so scared to fight him again, he admitted he cant beat the man unless he was able to rob him:ufdup:



#SOGGang



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As many advantages as possible during negotiations sounds exactly like something Ward would do. Let's not forget the Dawson fight.

'I don't think Froch wants the fight'

Um, yeah duh. Froch and his team have been very vocal in saying they don't want the fight and they don't think it's likely they'll win. The City Grounds can hold twice as many as the O2, why would they go for a smaller venue? Just to appease Ward?

The facts are clear. Ward turned down a fight with a guy he already beat, who's not even confident he can win, and would've likely been the biggest payday of his career cause he's an idiot.
 

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As many advantages as possible during negotiations sounds exactly like something Ward would do. Let's not forget the Dawson fight.


Let's NOT forget the Dawson fight:mjpls:


Chad Dawson called out Andre Ward after beating Bernard Hopkins, and said he would fight him at 168....not the other way around:ufdup:


SOG took him up on that offer:sas1:


So, what are you talking about or do you Frochy Froch stans wanna continue leaving out minor things like, ya know, FACTS when discussing SOG:sas2:


'I don't think Froch wants the fight'

Um, yeah duh. Froch and his team have been very vocal in saying they don't want the fight and they don't think it's likely they'll win. The City Grounds can hold twice as many as the O2, why would they go for a smaller venue? Just to appease Ward?

The facts are clear. Ward turned down a fight with a guy he already beat, who's not even confident he can win, and would've likely been the biggest payday of his career cause he's an idiot.


This entire quote deserves nothing but the bushes:camby:


Again, Hearn is on RECORD saying that they know Andre Ward is willing to fight ANYWHERE in England...ANYWHERE in the entire country but Nottingham, and you're in here talking about "bu-bu-but, Nottingham":camby:


Since when in the last 25 years of Boxing has someone totally dominated an a opponent on neutral ground and then fought the rematch in that SAME OPPONENT'S backyard?:usure:


Tell me when this has happened please?:birdman:


That's just totally :snoop: that you would even type that:camby:


Are you telling me the only place in the entire country where Froch can fight Ward is in Nottingham?:comeon:


Really?:aicmon:


Really? Andre Ward should fight Carl Froch in the SAME place where he watched Andre Dirrell BEAT Froch and get robbed on the cards in the Super Six.....Nottingham?:yeahright:


It's obvious to everyone who has reported on this fight that it's Hearn and Froch who dont want the match. The WBA mandated the fight happen.......and crickets from Hearn and Froch except talking about "who's a draw", like that means anything to the WBA who ordered the purse bid themselves:camby:


But with the WBA ordering the fight, Froch and Hearn are going to need to give a heck of a lot in the negotiations if they want to keep the WBA title.
If they simply refuse to give ground during the negotiations, then it’ll go to a purse bid, where Ward’s promoters at Roc Nation Sports will have a good chance of winning the bid.

“He [Ward] doesn’t carry the draw in the U.S. At all,” Hearn said via Skysports.com. “What does Ward bring at the moment? Unfortunately Carl dictates everything in this fight. It is not that big a fight in America…we have to have as many advantages as possible.”

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03/hearn-what-does-andre-ward-bring-at-the-moment-for-froch/


The WBA ordered the fight, but Hearn and Froch backed down which is why he was STRIPPED of his belt:ufdup:



Take those excuses elsewhere:camby:
 

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Im not high anymore....everybody getting it today:birdman:


l'm about to beat on some real murder shyt, @krackdagawd :demonic:
l'm telling you, man:ufdup:
Any nikka that ever looked at #SOGGang wrong, owes us coli cash, or over said any jealous bullshyt about my Boxers is fukkin' dead:mjcry:

You understand what the fukk l'm saying, @krackdagawd?:to:

They're fukkin' dead, man:mjcry:

l don't give a fukk about nothing, man.:mjcry:


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We said we'd fight him at the O2 Arena as well, or are you gonna conveniently leave that out?:mjpls:



We fought you in Atlantic City, which is FURTHER from Ward's backyard than the O2 Arena is from Nottingham....but like Froch AND Hearn has said, they know they have no chance to beat him on points and have ADMITTED that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, outside of Nottingham, but they want to have it there for 1 reason only. To basically rob him:camby:







You, @firemanBk, or @ChocolateGiddyUp explain to us WHY would any fighter agree to some bullshyt like that?:comeon:


You're telling the world that you KNOW already that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, but because you already know that there is no possible way that your fighter can beat him, you intend on having "as many advantages as possible" ie, rob him?:dahell:


That's corny and not really worth defending if you're being honest as a Boxing fan:camby:


Frochy Froch and his #BandOfMerryMen can take his ass back to Nottingham and retire knowing that he lost to The GOAT Super Middleweight who beat him with 1 hand, and that he was so scared to fight him again, he admitted he cant beat the man unless he was able to rob him:ufdup:



#SOGGang



:birdman:


All i just read was a whole bunch of :mjcry:

Nah its simple economics . . Hearn and Froch know that we wouldnt fill Wembley stadium fight a guy with zero fans outside "SOG-gang" which has what? 5 members on the coli + wards immediate family?

Froch could easily fill out the City Ground for the fight (40,000+ Froch fans) but unlikely to get 80,000 in wembley when Ward will have <100 fans who will travel from the states to watch him. This bum Ward cant even sell out his home town arena which is <10,000 seats, what the fukk is he smoking thinking 80,000 people across the pond will want to pay to watch him fight?

Ward is delusional, and turned down the fight in Nottingham, what else is there to say? :francis:

Leave your emotions at the door and try again in telling me where im wrong here?






















:umad:
 

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All i just read was a whole bunch of :mjcry:



Leave your emotions at the door and try again in telling me where im wrong here?






















:umad:

Why would I be mad.....my fighter beat yours with 1 hand:mjlol:



Where are you wrong?


Again, We said we'd fight him at the O2 Arena as well, or are you gonna conveniently leave that out? We fought you in Atlantic City, which is further from Ward's backyard than the O2 Arena is from Nottingham....but like Froch and Hearn has said, they know they have no chance to beat him on points and have admitted that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, outside of Nottingham, but they want to have it there for 1 reason only. To basically rob him like they did Dirrell in Nottingham.

Explain to us why would any fighter agree to something like that?


You're telling the world that you know already that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, but because you already know that there is no possible way that your fighter can beat him, you intend on having "as many advantages as possible" ie, rob him?


That's corny and not really worth defending if you're being honest as a Boxing fan.
 

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Why would I be mad.....my fighter beat yours with 1 hand:mjlol:



Where are you wrong?


Again, We said we'd fight him at the O2 Arena as well, or are you gonna conveniently leave that out? We fought you in Atlantic City, which is further from Ward's backyard than the O2 Arena is from Nottingham....but like Froch and Hearn has said, they know they have no chance to beat him on points and have admitted that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, outside of Nottingham, but they want to have it there for 1 reason only. To basically rob him like they did Dirrell in Nottingham.

Explain to us why would any fighter agree to something like that?


You're telling the world that you know already that Ward is willing to fight anywhere in the UK, but because you already know that there is no possible way that your fighter can beat him, you intend on having "as many advantages as possible" ie, rob him?


That's corny and not really worth defending if you're being honest as a Boxing fan.


:umad:

So you agree I was not wrong in my comments :umad:

Ward called out Froch, Froch didnt really have much interest in fighting Ward for the reasons already stated. . . Ward continued to beg Frochy Froch, was offered a fight in Nottingham which was financially the most viable location, Ward turned it down. O2 (18k) is not big enough, and wembley (80k) is too big. Nottingham is 40k and Froch can easily sell it out headlining against non-draws like Ward. So, before you get into your emotions, consider we're living in reality and realise that Ward isnt a draw and doesnt dictate shyt. Fight in Nottingham or no fight at all :ufdup:

Ward cant even sell out his hometown arena, dude is pitiful. Mayweather put it perfectly about it him :heh:
 

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So you agree I was not wrong in my comments :umad:

Ward called out Froch, Froch didnt really have much interest in fighting Ward for the reasons already stated. . . Ward continued to beg Frochy Froch, was offered a fight in Nottingham which was financially the most viable location, Ward turned it down. O2 (18k) is not big enough, and wembley (80k) is too big. Nottingham is 40k and Froch can easily sell it out headlining against non-draws like Ward. So, before you get into your emotions, consider we're living in reality and realise that Ward isnt a draw and doesnt dictate shyt. Fight in Nottingham or no fight at all :ufdup:

Ward cant even sell out his hometown arena, dude is pitiful. Mayweather put it perfectly about it him :heh:

You were wrong.

Also, you say18k is too small (O2 Arena), but yet Froch is desperate to fight in Vegas which the MGM is even smaller:mjlol

When are Frochy Froch and his #BandOfMerryMen gonna make valid points:wow:

If Frochy Froch really wanted to fight Ward, they wouldve went along with the purse bid instead of letting himself get stripped of the title...then Ward wouldn't have had any choice but to get robbed:mjpls:

But I guess #SOGGang ain't the one's living in reality:francis:
 

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But when Ward next heard that they not only wanted him to fight in the UK, but also in Froch’s hometown of Nottingham, then at that point Ward said he realized that they [Froch and his promoter Eddie Hearn] weren’t serious about wanting to fight him.

I don't get it, how is this not being serious? How is this not like every single Ward fight in Oakland?

Seems to me like Froch was willing to go with it but Ward pussied out with a BS reason :francis:
 

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I don't get it, how is this not being serious? How is this not like every single Ward fight in Oakland?

Seems to me like Froch was willing to go with it but Ward pussied out with a BS reason :francis:

Explain how?

Ward has said multiple times that he would face Carl Froch anywhere in the country of England but Nottingham. Reason being, he didn't face Froch in his back yard, so why would he rematch an opponent he dominated....in their hometown?

It makes 0 sense at all and none of you Froch stans can make a valid reason or show where this has ever been done in Boxing history.

Are yall telling me they couldn't fight in London (York Hall, Alexandra Palace, M.E.N. Arena, O2 Arena) or anywhere else in the UK?

And again, if Froch really wanted the fight, he wouldn't have let himself get stripped of his belt when the WBA mandated they go to a purse bid.


And just to be factual, yall do know that a quick glance at boxrec.com shows that Andre Ward has only fought 6 of his 27 career fights in his hometown of Oakland (22%)...while Frochy Froch has fought 15 of his career 35 fights in Nottingham (43%):sas1:



#SOGGang


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