"...and I got bars for sale, ask Ghost" - Lord Superb

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Also, there are other differences.
Superb was a part of Ghost's crew at the time (Theodore Unit) and was featured on the album. It stands to reason that he was present when the album was recorded.
To my knowledge, Superb did not record reference tracks for Ghost.

QM was not a part of Drake's crew and not featured on the album.
QM recorded reference tracks for Drake.
Let's keep moving the goal posts to fuel our agendas :mjgrin:
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Bottom line we know 2 things

1) Perbs name is on the album, meaning he did get paid something

2) Ghost admitted Perb gave input on songs


so if Ghost gave input on songs and Perb obviously got paid due to his name being somewhere on album inserts then there is merit in the thread title...

Ghost paid Perb for bars.
Except we don't know that Perb was paid anything for SC. You are assuming that.
Furthermore, we don't know if he was specifically paid for writing rhymes for Ghost, as opposed to his vocal performances on the album.
So the thread title has no merit.
 

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Let's keep moving the goal posts to fuel our agendas :mjgrin:
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These aren't important distinctions?
Lettuce talk about breh in your avi. It's said that Mega wrote the "lifes a bytch but god forbid the bytch divorce me" line right?
Would you feel different if Mega had actually recorded a refernce track for Nas' verse for him?
 

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Except we don't know that Perb was paid anything for SC. You are assuming that.
Furthermore, .

I'm not assuming anything. His name is on the insert I know off top he got payed something. You saying he didnt get paid is u just trying to prove a point that doesn't exist.

Your whole argument is wether or not Ghost paid Perb anything meaning u have no argument because I can see his name on the insert.
 

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Receipts?

:what:

Dude...u said he didnt get paid anything for SC. I can look on Wiki and see his name there as a performer. I know off top he got paid something if he's atleast on the credits as a performer. U sound wacky.


And its majority rules

@Oldhead said Ghost paid him in crack

@Piff Perkins said Ghost paid him with crack laced blunts and drinks.

I say Ghost paid him with money. Bottom line, Perb got paid for his services like the thread title says.
 

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I refuse to believe perb wrote all of sc..with that said ghost himself admitted he contributed. Its well known rappers work with other rappers while making albums. Look at the nas and jay elec situation. It doesn't take away from nas and ghost being two of the most prolific writers in hip hop history. The Drake situation is completely different tho y'all reaching with that comparison.
 

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These aren't important distinctions?
Lettuce talk about breh in your avi. It's said that Mega wrote the "lifes a bytch but god forbid the bytch divorce me" line right?
Would you feel different if Mega had actually recorded a refernce track for Nas' verse for him?
No, they not. At the end of the day Drake and Ghost had help. Ghost did not deny any of it he said Superb bounced some lines maybe a verse but he could never write an entire album of his. His statement was some wishy-washy shyt. On Drake's projects QM gave lines, flows, hooks not entire 16's like Ghost's situation he could never write an entire Drake project. A lot of QM's work was ultimately scrapped on those reference tracks. Superb was not Ghost's man that's somebody Raekwon was cool with. QM was not Drake's man that's somebody Boi-1-Da was cool with. I don't know how y'all gonna play dumb and act like the situations ain't similar. Also, there was a Superb reference track on IG floating around but of course y'all won't deem it credible. In Ghost's response he mentioned tracks he wrote but didn't mention the allegedly ghostwritten tracks.

Y'all nikkas moving goal posts talking about bu bu Superb is a molester, crack head, thief like Wu-Tang nikkas is angels. :laff:

I thought to be a "real" MC you had to always write 100% of your shyt but now if you in a crew it's fine to use other peoples rhymes :heh:

If Mega wrote a verse for Nas, I still wouldn't knock Nas pen. Because we know Nas wrote albums like Illmatic and has ghostwritten for the Will Smiths and Diddy's. We know Nas is a writer. At the end of the day in the creative process we don't know what happens. Ghostwriting is a common industry practice since the first mass marketed rap song and some G.O.A.T.'s have used them or have been rumored to use them.
 

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Regardless if Perb gave Ghost a line or two or helped him write a verse,the fact that he as an artist could not bring that same type of artistry out himself makes all the merit he tries to give his capabilities irrelevant to me.Coupled with the fact that his claim to fame has been that same story for over 10 years is the final nail in a irrelevant coffin,pedo/crack/toothless issues aside.Ghost had classic albums before SC and after.That alone should shut detractors up if the argument is that Ghost somehow leaned on Perb to make hits or create songs.I am willing to bet,having been in the studio with rappers and singers that writing/producing is a group effort.If ya mans and em are in the studio,some of em will contribute in some way shape or form.It might be a line or a hook or "say it like this".It is still up to the artist to take that piece of advice and make it into something that will resonate with him/her or the fanbase.This whole "only quote it if you wrote it" is a fable.I am sure Big had input,Jay had input, Nas had input from someone at some point but it still takes skill,talent and vision to take that and make something worth listening to.Hell Kanye had the whole Lucifer hook done before he gave it to Jay,nobody has a problem with that,Pharell had hooks and lines for Jay,again no issue..to me it becomes an issue when the artist lies about it,Ghost did not do that.
 

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No, they not. At the end of the day Drake and Ghost had help. Ghost did not deny any of it he said Superb bounced some lines maybe a verse but he could never write an entire album of his. His statement was some wishy-washy shyt. On Drake's projects QM gave lines, flows, hooks not entire 16's like Ghost's situation he could never write an entire Drake project. A lot of QM's work was ultimately scrapped on those reference tracks. Superb was not Ghost's man that's somebody Raekwon was cool with. QM was not Drake's man that's somebody Boi-1-Da was cool with. I don't know how y'all gonna play dumb and act like the situations ain't similar. Also, there was a Superb reference track on IG floating around but of course y'all won't deem it credible. In Ghost's response he mentioned tracks he wrote but didn't mention the allegedly ghostwritten tracks.

Y'all nikkas moving goal posts talking about bu bu Superb is a molester, crack head, thief like Wu-Tang nikkas is angels. :laff:

I thought to be a "real" MC you had to always write 100% of your shyt but now if you in a crew it's fine to use other peoples rhymes :heh:

If Mega wrote a verse for Nas, I still wouldn't knock Nas pen. Because we know Nas wrote albums like Illmatic and has ghostwritten for the Will Smiths and Diddy's. We know Nas is a writer. At the end of the day in the creative process we don't know what happens. Ghostwriting is a common industry practice since the first mass marketed rap song and some G.O.A.T.'s have used them or have been rumored to use them.


So many inaccuracies in this garbage ass post :dead:


Ghost never said or implied Perb Maybe wrote a verse on Supreme Clientele. He straight up and down said he wrote none of it and that during the process of album making a line was picked up by him that was bounced around. Quentin Miller was straight up and down writing whole verses for Drake and is even credited on Drake songs that he is not on. False equivalency.

And n!ggas bring up that Perb is a bitter pedophile because it helps illustrate why he's going around claiming he wrote an album that Ghost sounds nothing like him on. You sound like a clown for even asking why dudes are bringing that shyt up. Wu-tang n!ggas exposed him for being a sex offender and it just further fuels Perb's agenda to spread a lie about writing that album. He hurt. Wu n!ggas may not be angels but they definitely ain't fukking with pedophiles. Matter fact...they got a song on that unreleased album that Martin Shkreli purchased that denounces child molestation. It's clear right now you just trolling like the threadstarter.
 

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So many inaccuracies in this garbage ass post :dead:


Ghost never said or implied Perb Maybe wrote a verse on Supreme Clientele. He straight up and down said he wrote none of it and that during the process of album making a line was picked up by him that was bounced around. Quentin Miller was straight up and down writing whole verses for Drake and is even credited on Drake songs that he is not on. False equivalency. It's clear right now you just trolling like the threadstarter.

And n!ggas bring up that Perb is a bitter pedophile because it helps illustrate why he's going around claiming he wrote an album that Ghost sounds nothing like him on. You sound like a clown for even asking why dudes are bringing that shyt up.
My nikka this wishy washy ass statement ain't a denial :dahell:

"That's just nonsense. I still put mad shyt out. 'Perb (Superb) is Rae's (Raekwon) man. He been in the studio a few times while we're doing shyt. He ain't write shyt. All 'Perb contributed was a couple of lines that you could put in the air. When we write, we all do that. "Say this one right here" or "Put this one right here". We all catch lines with each other 'cause you in the studio. You got nikkas around you that write. Even if he did write a verse, he could never make an album of mine. He couldn't make an album, you feel me? I made Supreme Clientele what it is. Those are my stories, based around what they're based upon. It's me. I can't see what songs 'Perb wrote. He ain't write "Mighty Healthy" or "One" or "Apollo Kids" or "Cherchez LaGhost" or "Saturday Nite" or "Malcolm"."

Son went from saying he been in the studio and never wrote, to saying he contributed a couples lines, to saying maybe a verse but could never write an entire project.

He rambling all he had to say was straight up nah that nikka never wrote any of my rhymes. :comeon:

Superb being a pedophile has nothing to do with writing raps.
 
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