Ancient astronomical observatory unearthed in Georgia

[Type Username Here]

Quite a pseudo-circle jerk going on in here.

You know what's funny about pseudos that I have encountered in my life, including family and friends?

They ALL don't know how to do basic math or answer basic science questions. If it didn't come from some obscure alternative blog, some zeitgeist youtube video or some History Channel Documentary, they don't know or care to know about it.

They'll tell you the natives in the Americas were "50-100 years" away from discovering calculus, like that poster said, but you see, they don't actually know how to do any calculus.

I had to make this just for you:

 

[Leasy]

Quite a pseudo-circle jerk going on in here.

You know what's funny about pseudos that I have encountered in my life, including family and friends?

They ALL don't know how to do basic math or answer basic science questions. If it didn't come from some obscure alternative blog, some zeitgeist youtube video or some History Channel Documentary, they don't know or care to know about it.

They'll tell you the natives in the Americas were "50-100 years" away from discovering calculus, like that poster said, but you see, they don't actually know how to do any calculus.

I had to make this just for you:

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the individuals who had found the calculations do it by learning from previous calculations??????

Everything started from something dude.

 

[rapbeats]

I did agree with with his comment to some degree. I don't embrace the Noble Savage myth but I was impressed that Native Americans had built this thing and it points to their depth and mystery as a culture and society. You are excited about materialistic types of progress--we got a telescope, we got the germ theory of disease, we got the large hadron collider, etc. -- I am too, but I'm not sure it changes life in a profound way all that much.

My comment was more general though, I've seen your coli career make an intense switch into totally embracing a sort of transcendent obsession with humanistic intelligence; you got the brain avi, the 'earth' location, going into threads and telling people their accomplishments are baseline, being a complete constitutional literalist , etc... this combined with your earlier stated affection for Sam Harris and cultural cross analysis just makes me think you're going through a phase of hyperfetishizing science, math, the enlightenment etc. It's just something I noticed in a heuristic way rather than in an analytical way. I may be wrong and you may just be like this for the rest of your life but I kinda doubt it, it seems like a subconscious identity construction based on an rationalist aesthetic

now friends,,^^THAT is how you break em down.

 

[Type Username Here]

now friends,,^^THAT is how you break em down.

Now, I love my brother ZeroZero, but any psychological profiling coming from a dude who tiptoes between Deism and Islam depending on the phase of the moon, falafel smells, and daily internet thread titles shouldn't be taken serious in that field.

Any dude that advocates for terrorism and racism based on criticisms of a religion even he admits is highly flawed should not have the privilege to judge others in such a carelessness manner.

 

[rapbeats]

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the individuals who had found the calculations do it by learning from previous calculations??????

Everything started from something dude.

yes they would.

EXHIBIT A.

 

[Type Username Here]

Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the individuals who had found the calculations do it by learning from previous calculations??????

Everything started from something dude.

yes they would.

EXHIBIT A.

African Origins of Maths Dr Ron Eglash Pt2 - YouTube

Can either of you do high school level calculus?

I'm betting the answer is no.

 

[SquirtleSwag]

TUH crushed the buildings in this thread... cool discovery though.

and yea, I doubt rapbeats even graduated highschool let alone be able to do any level of calculus

 

[Type Username Here]

TUH crushed the buildings in this thread... cool discovery though.

and yea, I doubt rapbeats even graduated highschool let alone be able to do any level of calculus

Thank you brother.

I feel that since this place is called Higher Learning, I have a duty to my fellow posters and the masses to challenge people in their belief system, especially when they make blanket statements such as was demonstrated in this thread.

It makes everyone better for it.

I just wish more of the posters here would join me. You got motherfukkers with Youtube PhDs and Alex Jones Scholarships just saying whatever the fukk they want without it being challenged.

 

[SquirtleSwag]

Thank you brother.

I feel that since this place is called Higher Learning, I have a duty to my fellow posters and the masses to challenge people in their belief system, especially when they make blanket statements such as was demonstrated in this thread.

It makes everyone better for it.

I just wish more of the posters here would join me. You got motherfukkers with Youtube PhDs and Alex Jones Scholarships just saying whatever the fukk they want without it being challenged.

Sometimes I feel its wasted energy though. They will continue to argue with you until infinity.

Who possesses the testicular fortitude, To blow away myths that's a hindrance to all of you, You blame your own shortcomings on sex and race, The mafia, homosexuals and all the Jews, It's hogwash point of views

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I did agree with with his comment to some degree. I don't embrace the Noble Savage myth but I was impressed that Native Americans had built this thing and it points to their depth and mystery as a culture and society. You are excited about materialistic types of progress--we got a telescope, we got the germ theory of disease, we got the large hadron collider, etc. -- I am too, but I'm not sure it changes life in a profound way all that much.

My comment was more general though, I've seen your coli career make an intense switch into totally embracing a sort of transcendent obsession with humanistic intelligence; you got the brain avi, the 'earth' location, going into threads and telling people their accomplishments are baseline, being a complete constitutional literalist , etc... this combined with your earlier stated affection for Sam Harris and cultural cross analysis just makes me think you're going through a phase of hyperfetishizing science, math, the enlightenment etc. It's just something I noticed in a heuristic way rather than in an analytical way. I may be wrong and you may just be like this for the rest of your life but I kinda doubt it, it seems like a subconscious identity construction based on an rationalist aesthetic

When did this supposed shift occur? He's always been like that.

 

[OsO]

I don't understand why people have to make these blanket statements though. It's disingenuous. Human Knowledge has been an ever growing process from the start, built on top of other findings and serving as pillars for the next generation.

To discredit anyone is silly. I love history. I love the history of math especially. Our ancestors were masters before technology. We should be extremely grateful for their contributions to philosophy, mathematics, science, astronomy, medicine and the like. It doesn't mean everything they said was right. It doesn't mean they had discovered everything. Far from it actually.

For example: The Greeks, my favorite ancient civilization, were absolutely dominant in geometry, trigonometry and other maths. Yet, they still couldn't prove that the number pi or square root of two was irrational. They came close but they couldn't determine it, even though they suspect it. Their philosophers understood the concept of an atom, but they couldn't prove it. It took damn 1500+ years for advancements in knowledge to truly prove and determine those things.

Why rob 1500 years of hard work and human achievement by making blanket statements that are disingenuous? That's all I am asking.

human knowledge is an ever growing process i agree. every new moment is a moment that has never existed before, and simply by that virtue alone every moment contains knowledge that has never been accessible before in space and time.

but in many ways we are not as advanced as we once were... a lot of knowledge has been lost, a lot of knowledge has been forgotten, and a lot of knowledge has been destroyed.

i dont think anyone is trying to discredit our modern accomplishments in this modern context, what we have done scientifically is amazing when you consider all the technology we have access to in this day and age. but it doesnt do us a lot of good to be long on knowledge, but short on wisdom.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

human knowledge is an ever growing process i agree. every new moment is a moment that has never existed before, and simply by that virtue alone every moment contains knowledge that has never been accessible before in space and time.

but in many ways we are not as advanced as we once were... a lot of knowledge has been lost, a lot of knowledge has been forgotten, and a lot of knowledge has been destroyed.

i dont think anyone is trying to discredit our modern accomplishments in this modern context, what we have done scientifically is amazing when you consider all the technology we have access to in this day and age. but it doesnt do us a lot of good to be long on knowledge, but short on wisdom.

Never ceases to amaze me how you can type so much, yet say absolutely nothing. What the fukk wisdom are you fukking talking about? You are NOT about the savage, short life that people endured in the past so if you only had some perspective you would thank god you have all the luck in the world to be born in the time you were.

Just to thinking about it, if I were born before the age of modern medicine, I would've died in highschool from pneumonia.

 

[zerozero]

Now, I love my brother ZeroZero, but any psychological profiling coming from a dude who tiptoes between Deism and Islam depending on the phase of the moon, falafel smells, and daily internet thread titles shouldn't be taken serious in that field.

Any dude that advocates for terrorism and racism based on criticisms of a religion even he admits is highly flawed should not have the privilege to judge others in such a carelessness manner.

I don't know what your second paragraph is about but breh it's not about psychological profiling but just about the basics of your intellectual approach. Earlier in this thread I said I discount materialist/technological progress more than you do, and your continuous recourse to rationalism, math etc (right in this thread you've name-checked eras of empircal discovery) show your philosophical and historical bias towards certain types of human experience counting as progress. That's okay, but you embrace this left brained style in a comprehensive way, which is what I'm pointing out. I'm not saying you only value left brained things--you've referenced emotion and art in this thread--but you don't actually use anthropological or sociological ways of thinking much in your writings. And certainly the more you go on about solving quadrilaterals the more you show your hand in this regard.

When did this supposed shift occur? He's always been like that.

Okay, but like I said I didn't notice the fetishistic aspects of his embrace of rationalism and intelligence before. It's kinda like the more and more he does it the more noticeable it becomes to me. I mean, look at what happened in this thread, that guy said "there's nothing new under the sun" (a metaphorical phrase deeply embedded in western civilization via Ecclesiastes) and TUH came in talking about gravity equations

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

TUH can be a douche at times, and I understand what Zero is saying about the fetishing of human knowledge and ideals of the Enlightenment and how that can lend itself to myopia and arrogance in some ways, but for the most part TUH is on point in this thread. I'll probably have more to say later when I'm on my pc instead of my phone.

 

[zerozero]

yeah I mean, I agree with TUH's basic point that we know things about physical reality and how to analyze/manipulate it that Native Americans didn't.