mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I hate that you all take loudmouth no nothings like Colin Cowherd, seriously.
"Almost any Offensive Coordinator in the league could put up big numbers with the talent the lions have on offense" - Colin Cowherd
- Thread starter Born2BKing
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X1000 - I can't stand people giving these goofballs credence. But I'm always open to discussing Detroit sports when the subject comes up. Colin's bonehead opinion in this case is just the catalyst for the discussion.
Born2BKing
Veteran
Exactly. The question is if Ben Johnson is being hyped a bit too much which quite a few people think is the case.
I think the question overall is silly. He's desired because he's had a top 5 offense 3 years in a row and a lot of the owners want offensive gurus to compliment and build their most expensive commodity on the team. And he comes from a culture that most organizations want to emulate now. I don't think hype has anything to do with it.
TheMadLionsFan
Pro
Don't forget, he took over when the Lions ended the season 9-8.
The backfield was DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams. Jamal has been put on the back of a milk carton and Philly didn't elect to keep Swift after he was traded.
It was St. Brown's 2nd year, the no. 2 receiver was DJ Chark who is no longer on the team and TJ Hockenson was traded mid-season.
However after the trade, Detroit TEs accounted for the most TDs in the league.
He made due with what he had and still put together a top 5 offense.
You are overspeaking, brother..the Olin Kreutz Oline was an excellent one..
Boonapalist
Superstar
I hate the Lions but Ben Johnson does seem to be a great offensive play caller. I just dislike how it seems Dan Campbell is treated like just a figurehead and Ben gets the majority of the credit.
the next guy
Superstar
Fair I almost forgot the mid 2000s bears
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Keenan Allen is a #1 receiver in 2025. The Coli dot com!
Born2BKing
Veteran
A lot more credit than Aaron Glenn who has a piece mill defense playing amazing.
Boonapalist
Superstar
Yep him too. I was so sick when Green Bay lost to the Lions and they had nikkas practically off the street on defense
Fixed.
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
I love this man, pause.
He brought competence to an incompetent environment.
No more people drafting Terry Fair ass nikkas over Randy Moss quality players.
He brought us to a point to where we expect to win every Sunday. Not to hope, not to wish, but to expect it.
Sheila better never lose him.
No more Artose Pinner over Clinton Portis or Charles Rogers(RIP) over Andre Johnson or Eriv Eric Ebron over Aaron Donald and OBJ
I love this man, pause.
He brought competence to an incompetent environment.
No more people drafting Terry Fair ass nikkas over Randy Moss quality players.
He brought us to a point to where we expect to win every Sunday. Not to hope, not to wish, but to expect it.
Sheila better never lose him.
feelosofer
#ninergang
Colin Cowherd is a hot take merchant who doesn't the watch games.
Ben Johnson coached one of the most effective and efficient offenses of the past 3 seasons. Yes the Lions drafted very well and managed to land some of the leagues best offensive linemen but he also has Jared Goff playing near elite football, and the Lions have built mostly through the draft and those players were coached up by Ben Johnson. Now maybe he doesn't have the management skills but he seems like a really smart guy and I bet a lot like Sean McVay be will likely bring in veteran ex-head coaches as coordinators to maybe learn the macro of the position and if he flounders he'll be an OC again.
Ben Johnson coached one of the most effective and efficient offenses of the past 3 seasons. Yes the Lions drafted very well and managed to land some of the leagues best offensive linemen but he also has Jared Goff playing near elite football, and the Lions have built mostly through the draft and those players were coached up by Ben Johnson. Now maybe he doesn't have the management skills but he seems like a really smart guy and I bet a lot like Sean McVay be will likely bring in veteran ex-head coaches as coordinators to maybe learn the macro of the position and if he flounders he'll be an OC again.
