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Weren't you just saying that western nations should bow to those against their culture and legal system by making blasphemy against Islam a crime a last week?
Allowing Women To Drive Would Mean No More Virgins, Says Saudi Religious Council
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who would be sad about being on a list that exists only in your sick ass, demon-free mind
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Dude's mad he got hit on Them Saudis are insane 
Them Saudis are insane 
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different culture, different values. 
If being a woman in Saudi was so bad, we would see them leaving there in droves. But since they aren't, who are we to judge?
If being a woman in Saudi was so bad, we would see them leaving there in droves. But since they aren't, who are we to judge?
different culture, different values.
If being a woman in Saudi was so bad, we would see them leaving there in droves. But since they aren't, who are we to judge?
I ignore 99% of the stuff HL people say about these places but this driving issue is actually an indigenous concern with the women there, it's not about us projecting something onto them
different culture, different values.
If being a woman in Saudi was so bad, we would see them leaving there in droves. But since they aren't, who are we to judge?
How are women supposed to leave a place where men are oppressing them when they can't even be leave their homes or be on the street without permission from and accompaniment by a male chaperone?
I'm not suggesting that it's as simple as saying Saudi women are oppressed by men, but the idea that they can just up and leave if they don't like it there doesn't really work.
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Is there a link that illustrates your point? Or are you just assuming life for the average woman is so miserable compared with their US counterpart? Again, if this were such an issue, I would have expected a movement of sorts to develop where those affected by this would be speaking out and organizing mass movements to effect change.
I'm making a logical rather than empirical point. I'm not aware enough of social relations in Saudi Arabia to know how women over there feel or what the state of women's movements there are, though I do know there are some, at least.
All I'm saying is that the situation is such that they are supposed to get permission from a male guardian to leave the house and need a male chaperone whenever they are out in public, so if some of them do feel stifled or oppressed by men, what are they supposed to do within that setup? Ask mens' permission to go out and protest them? Ask mens' permission to leave the country? Whatever it was designed for, that kind of social situation does make it very difficult for the people with all the restrictions on them (women, in this case) to be able to effect change.
I should also add that they can't vote or hold high political office, so expecting a democratic solution to any problems they might have is unrealistic.
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Everywhere isn't America bruh. They're an authoritarian theocracy. What do you think would happen to Saudi Arabian women if they tried to organize a mass movement? The same thing that happened to Nat Turner in them in the first half of the 19th century. Women have NO power over there. Attitudes among the people at the levers of power and the rank and file male citizens would have to relax a LOT before any type of organizing movement that doesn't end with beheadings is even fathomable.
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so i guess its up to the internet liberals to free these poor, helpless, and oppressed women from their shackles of misery?
You just literally answered your own argument with that Nat turner example. You act as if because society isn't ready for change those that are being oppressed should just shut up and wait for oppressor's attitudes to change. If there is a significant injustice, isn't it the right of the oppressed to force that change? Or i guess these "horribly" oppressed women should just sit around and wait for people to "relax" a bit before organizing a movement?
You would have been the type to tell Nat to sit his ass down when he was trying to get the movement going because "white folks weren't ready for change yet."
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different culture, different values.
If being a woman in Saudi was so bad, we would see them leaving there in droves. But since they aren't, who are we to judge?
Islam is the problem....
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so i guess its up to the internet liberals to free these poor, helpless, and oppressed women from their shackles of misery?
What does this even mean? What is with your fixation with tying everything wrong with everything in the world to "libruls"?You just literally answered your own argument with that Nat turner example. You act as if because society isn't ready for change those that are being oppressed should just shut up and wait for oppressor's attitudes to change. If there is a significant injustice, isn't it the right of the oppressed to force that change? Or i guess these "horribly oppressed women should just sit around and wait for people to "relax" a bit before organizing a movement?
@your reading comprehension skills. When did I say that they SHOULDN'T? I said what would happen if they did, which is whippings or beheadings in two seconds flat. I explained why it's not happened because you initially asked the question.You said if women were suffering so much, there would be a social movement against it. I explained the obvious reason why there is no social movement against it. Problem?