Allen Iverson rated 6th best shooting guard of all-time ESPN shooting guard rankings.

[Wacky D]

my top 15

1. michael jordan
2. kobe bryant
3. allen iverson
4. jerry west
5. dwayne wade

6. george gervin
7. clyde drexler
8. tracy mcgrady
9. earl monroe
10. david thompson

11. mitch richmond
12. vince carter
13. ray allen
14. reggie miller
15. james harden

 

[Luke Cage]

the heat were one of the favorites to win it all going into that season.

revisionist history like a muhsukka.

Dumbass
The fukkin Pistons were the favorites

Talking about revisionist history

 

[Luke Cage]

That's not Jerry West. That's Bob Cousy who did not deserve his spot on the point guard list. Cousy was a product of the 50's. Jerry West played until 1974, basically the precipice of the modern era. He's not just a product of the 60's. Not saying he's better than Wade, but think of him as a white Steph Curry, quick shot, quick dribble, quick hands, slow feet. The man was the mvp of the 1972 all star game which featured Kareem, Elvin Hayes, Wes Unseld, Connie Hawkins, Walt Frazier and Wilt among others. He was far from a bum.

There's a YouTube video of Jerry hitting like 15 jumpers in row....

2 years ago

Dude is like 70 or 80 years old.

I can't call someone a product of a by gone era when they're still better at basketball than 90% of the population today. Not back in 60s, but right now Jerry still a better shooter than every one in thecoli and probably would still best iverson in a 3 point contest today.

If his jumper it still wet now I trust that with the benefit of modern training regimens he woulda still been a beast in this era.

 

[Cyber]

This site is open to Robertson being top 15 but for some reason West doesn't get as much top 15-20 considerations even though they have similar statlines and played the exact same time (seriously, 1960-1974 for both). One guy had better postseason success because he was on better teams, the other guy had better regular season numbers because he averaged 3 more minutes and didn't share the ball with a Baylor or Wilt for his entire career. Compare their 70s numbers and you'll see West was significantly better, 25/4/9 on 54.7ts% vs 16/5/8 on 54.4ts%.

I got Robertson above West but it's certainly not an open and shut debate, it's more of a 1a/1b

 

[MoneyTron]

There's a YouTube video of Jerry hitting like 15 jumpers in row....

2 years ago

Dude is like 70 or 80 years old.

I can't call someone a product of a by gone era when they're still better at basketball than 90% of the population today. Not back in 60s, but right now Jerry still a better shooter than every one in thecoli and probably would still best iverson in a 3 point contest today.

If his jumper it still wet now I trust that with the benefit of modern training regimens he woulda still been a beast in this era.

Like riding a bike.

Talent on another level.

 

[Wacky D]

Dumbass
The fukkin Pistons were the favorites

Talking about revisionist history

i said ONE of the favorites.

and watch ya mouth dikkhead.

 

[Consumed]

So? Is Iverson supposed to get a handicap v/c he's short? Doesn't work like that and Kobe didn't have shyt around him in '06/07 yet he still maintained good efficiency and his team's offenses ranked in the top 8 of the league. Jordan was so dominant it hardly mattered who he had around him, and do yourself a favor and check out Wade in '09. You're kidding yourself if you think supporting cast is the reason they were more efficient and not flat out skill and ability.

How tf is a basic field goal percentage analytics? Nobody's pulling out true shooting percentage, PER or some high calibration formula. You don't need anything like that to show how terribly he played in that series and to cape for him is disgusting. Analytics are extremely useful when used in conjunction with sound reasoning. People who reject them entirely are ignorant

 

[Consumed]

nah youre not getting it.

of course kobe & mj were more efficient. they had much better squads around them and theyre much bigger than iverson. the latter also attributes to why theyre better defensively.

its a basketball thing. its not just A & B.





you claim that youre not talking analytics, only to base an entire long-winded post on it, then brag about your use of analytics at the end of your post.

Response above, mobile fukking up

 

[Barry Sanders]

Where is John Starks?

 

[stepbackj34spud]

the shooting guard position has been historical weak... Look at this list compared to the sfs... Ray Allen was never even a top 3 shooting guard in the league, yet he's top 3 all time? fukk outta here with that with weak ass position.

 

[filial_piety]

The list is a lie...Iverson is easily No. 2
D wade over AI

Clyde (who I have tons of respect for) over AI?

Kobe is debatable, but AI was still better skill wise....I said that 15 years ago and I'll say it today.

 

[Wacky D]

The list is a lie...Iverson is easily No. 2
D wade over AI

Clyde (who I have tons of respect for) over AI?

Kobe is debatable, but AI was still better skill wise....I said that 15 years ago and I'll say it today.

yea i just put kobe over iverson cuz kobe had a better career. cant dispute that. but pound-for-pound, i still take iverson over kobe.

same with T-Mac. he was better than kobe too, but we already know his deal.

This site is open to Robertson being top 15 but for some reason West doesn't get as much top 15-20 considerations even though they have similar statlines and played the exact same time (seriously, 1960-1974 for both).

oscar is a goat player.

if someone lowers him to mere top 15 considerations, then yea, jerry west isnt gonna be considered at all.

west had better efficiency cuz he played on way better teams than oscar.

So? Is Iverson supposed to get a handicap v/c he's short? Doesn't work like that and Kobe didn't have shyt around him in '06/07 yet he still maintained good efficiency and his team's offenses ranked in the top 8 of the league. Jordan was so dominant it hardly mattered who he had around him, and do yourself a favor and check out Wade in '09. You're kidding yourself if you think supporting cast is the reason they were more efficient and not flat out skill and ability.

its not a handicap. its where the term pound-for-pound comes in. theres a reason why people say iverson is pound-for-pound the goat.

kobe in 06-07 had better offensive players around him than iverson had on those sixers teams.

jordan was moreso a hinderance to his supporting cast.

the shooting guard position has been historical weak... Look at this list compared to the sfs... Ray Allen was never even a top 3 shooting guard in the league, yet he's top 3 all time? fukk outta here with that with weak ass position.

the problem with the shooting guard position is that alot of the greats are from eras that get overlooked.

 

[SlurRty]

Dikembe died?

dikembe wasnt DIKEMBE at that point his time passed

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The list is a lie...Iverson is easily No. 2
D wade over AI

Clyde (who I have tons of respect for) over AI?

Kobe is debatable, but AI was still better skill wise....I said that 15 years ago and I'll say it today.

Iverson stans lost