All these dual threat QBs got people missing pure pocket passers

[OnlyOneBoss]

There's different tiers of scrambling ability.There's the Mike Vick/Lamar Jackson tier.Below that, maybe the Kyler Murray tier.Then comes the Steve Young/Steve McNair level.I'm just wondering where I'd put Mahomes?.I'd probably have to create a 4th tier especially for guys like him and Donovan McNabb.Even John Elway could move a li bit.Honorable mention to Jake Plummer.My all time favorite college QB.Wasn't ultra athletic, but he had a crazy knack for slithering through defensive lines & evading the pass rush.Was clutch as hell, to.I swore he was the next Joe Montana

How I see it

Vick/Lamar/Cam

Josh Allen/Kyler Murray/ Russell Wilson(when he was younger)

Rodgers/Mahomes/Big Ben

Josh Allen and Cam can probably be switched around. Mahomes is weird cause he has the skill set but he’s also a product of the time. I don’t see him running as much say, 10 years ago. He’s probably be seen just like Rodger’s but because he’s in a era where QBs tuck and run more he ends up running more than he probably would in old days

 

[Trojan 24]

Crazy ass Rodgers really set the prototype for modern day QBs, mobile but is always pass first and will take off when needed. Mahomes is just a bigger version of that and so is CJ.

Actually I'm starting to think whoever was coaching CJ thru college was on to something. He hung in the pocket almost to his detriment until the last game of his career against Georgia. Seems like it would be easier to have someone learn to trust his legs a bit more then to have to reel in a big time runner

 

[Trojan 24]

Not counting Mahomes, every GOAT QB candidate fits that description. It damn sure ain't QBs who struggle to pass for 200 yds

If it ain't broke don't fix it

 

[JesusFOREVER]

If Mahomes isn’t considered a dual threat then this thread is pointless because then the only true dual threats in the NFL are Lamar Josh and Kyler and they’re all great, so why would fans of their teams want to ditch them for pure pocket passer? Everyone else either falls into the Mahomes category of a scrambler who can throw or a pocket passer.

 

[IIVI]

They want Dylan Raiola then. Dude is an engineer from the pocket.

The pocket awareness/presence at 4:15 was crazy, especially for a 19-year old. No running/scrambling, just a real quick sidestep and throw.


It's funny everyone compares him to Mahomes when he's probably closer to Peyton Manning with the ways he calls from the pocket, audibles, works from the pocket, etc. Dude is more Manning than Arch Manning is. The guy even calls assignments for the OL like a center (because his dad played Center on the Lions when Stafford was the QB).

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

How I see it

Vick/Lamar/Cam

Josh Allen/Kyler Murray/ Russell Wilson(when he was younger)

Rodgers/Mahomes/Big Ben

Josh Allen and Cam can probably be switched around. Mahomes is weird cause he has the skill set but he’s also a product of the time. I don’t see him running as much say, 10 years ago. He’s probably be seen just like Rodger’s but because he’s in a era where QBs tuck and run more he ends up running more than he probably would in old days

Great list...I forgot about Mr.Unconsensual himself, Big Ben.I think he's a step above Rodgers & Mahomes, tho.I'd actually place him in your Allen/Murray/Russ tier.Can't believe I forgot Cam.He's way up there.

 

[firemanBk]

If Mahomes isn’t considered a dual threat then this thread is pointless because then the only true dual threats in the NFL are Lamar Josh and Kyler and they’re all great, so why would fans of their teams want to ditch them for pure pocket passer? Everyone else either falls into the Mahomes category of a scrambler who can throw or a pocket passer.

No, Allen and Hurts are 100% dual threat QBs by any definition
So is Jayden Daniels even if he's just a rookie
Fields obviously

Basically, QBs where their rushing ability is really built into the offense (actual designed runs) and not just them scrambling

 

[Pressure]

If Mahomes isn’t considered a dual threat then this thread is pointless because then the only true dual threats in the NFL are Lamar Josh and Kyler and they’re all great, so why would fans of their teams want to ditch them for pure pocket passer? Everyone else either falls into the Mahomes category of a scrambler who can throw or a pocket passer.

Mahomes is a dual threat.

He was running 10x a game in college.

He still makes big plays on his feet, like the first down on the broken ankle.

 

[28 Gramz]

How I see it

Vick/Lamar/Cam

Josh Allen/Kyler Murray/ Russell Wilson(when he was younger)

Rodgers/Mahomes/Big Ben

Josh Allen and Cam can probably be switched around. Mahomes is weird cause he has the skill set but he’s also a product of the time. I don’t see him running as much say, 10 years ago. He’s probably be seen just like Rodger’s but because he’s in a era where QBs tuck and run more he ends up running more than he probably would in old days

Allen is up there with Cam rushing wise and hes a way better passer. Mahomes is definitely a dual threat, you have to account for his legs in critical situations even though he's a pass first QB.

 

[HabitualChiller]

They want Dylan Raiola then. Dude is an engineer from the pocket.

The pocket awareness/presence at 4:15 was crazy, especially for a 19-year old. No running/scrambling, just a real quick sidestep and throw.


It's funny everyone compares him to Mahomes when he's probably closer to Peyton Manning with the ways he calls from the pocket, audibles, works from the pocket, etc. than Arch Manning is. The guy even calls assignments for the OL like a center (because his dad played Center on the Lions when Stafford was the QB).

Thank God that he flipped on Georgia at the last second. Níggas would've been running college football for the next 3 years

 

[HabitualChiller]

No, Allen and Hurts are 100% dual threat QBs by any definition
So is Jayden Daniels even if he's just a rookie
Fields obviously

Basically, QBs where their rushing ability is really built into the offense (actual designed runs) and not just them scrambling

How is Fields a dual threat when he's not even a good passer?

Hurts and Fields are both running quarterbacks, but I wouldn't get them confused with dual-threats because they don't routinely carve up defenses through the air.

 

[IIVI]

Thank God that he flipped on Georgia at the last second. Níggas would've been running college football for the next 3 years

Yeah, that whole situation was wild

Iamaleava vs Raiola for two years would've been crazy.

 

[JesusFOREVER]

Mahomes is a dual threat.

He was running 10x a game in college.

He still makes big plays on his feet, like the first down on the broken ankle.

I agree, but OP and everyone else championing this thread are acting like this isn’t the case because it destroys the entire concept of it

 

[OnlyOneBoss]

I agree, but OP and everyone else championing this thread are acting like this isn’t the case because it destroys the entire concept of it

Rodgers was 7th in QB rush yards in 2012 and 4th in 2011

Was he a dual threat?

 

[MostReal]

I miss feature/star running backs.

me too breh