All Elite Wrestling/ALL IN 2 - paperwork been filed, in a positive sense. :ohhh:

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Regardless of whose fault it truly is... (Either PAC for agreeing to job then reneging... or AEW for never telling PAC he was eating a pin when it was set up months ago)

The optics remain the same... this makes AEW look bush league.
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I can't disagree with you. They have to get out of the business of promoting guys who do not exclusively work for them. You could have PAC make an appearance or do a match here or there but you cannot place him in a major angle if he's not signed. Period. Hope they learn from this.
 

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Think that nikkas who running around emulating the kliq for years were gonna be bookers to take losses :russ:

When nikkas said 20 wrestler VP wasnt a good look we were being negstive tho:russ:

Wait till Jericho starts throwing his weight around in the mix because he has actually drawn big shows b4 :banderas:

fukkery :blessed:

Boyhood dream Kenny Omega :banderas:



A real life E-Fed?

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I can't disagree with you. They have to get out of the business of promoting guys who do not exclusively work for them. You could have PAC make an appearance or do a match here or there but you cannot place him in a major angle if he's not signed. Period. Hope they learn from this.

Exactly, and if you want another companies champion to lose, you have to cut the company itself in on the discussion. PAC literally brought the belt to the press conference and held it up. They’d never have Seth Rollins come in and lose without WWE being in talks with them too.
 

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WWE Chief Brand Officer Stephanie McMahon held a talent meeting backstage at the XL Center in Hartford, CT before the WWE Money In the Bank pay-per-view earlier today, according to F4Wonline.com.

The speech by Stephanie was described as "mostly the same rah-rah" type of speech that WWE officials give from time-to-time. The only notable item is that they directly addressed All Elite Wrestling as competition to the company.

After pushing the WWE brand hard with the usual social media and YouTube stats, and the idea of having 1 billion followers, they also said they are having to compete with video games, movies, other streaming services and now AEW.

The AEW mention is interesting and could be a sign that WWE officials are really worried about the new company because in the past when similar speeches have been given, there has never been any other wrestling company mentioned, especially as competition.



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They always ignored TNA. Be shook of a company before they even have a tv show
 

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You really did read or get nothing I said did you?:picard:


I simply stated, I don’t think this has nothing to do with Page and that initial post you quoted said just as much.... which I even bolded.:dwillhuh:

Secondly, my bad if I wasn’t as clear with that as I thought when I literally said STAR POWER WISE which I specifically put in ().

Taking size out of consideration (which again wasn’t my intention of bringing up, our wires got crossed), just speaking about the 205 brand and roster, no one cares about 205, the damn WWE don’t even care about 205 in comparison to the main roster and NXT.

I never said Page is the problem. I’m talking about the future booking IF PAC went over Page. Don’t matter if it’s Page, Daniels, FK; PAC does need to get a few wins over talent if they wanna build him up as a top guy.

And who uses “big guy” to correlate with star power? Use normal shyt like “star,” “top guy,” upper carder,” etc. :what:

And PAC was never a jobber. :comeon:
 

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So now PAC was going to beat Page but they scrapped the very first match they advertised off their debut PPV because in 4 months he would have to lose to Omega :dahell:

Why the fukk not just have him beat Page & cut the same promo he did after the match they taped in the UK then so that you deliver what you advertised? There is no need to rush getting to PAC vs Omega, they could just do it later since Omega ain't losing anytime soon & PAC could come back later after dropping the Dragon Gate title & still have his win that matters over Page.

Unless there is another reason that they won't just say for some reason... :pachaha:
 

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So now PAC was going to beat Page but they scrapped the very first match they advertised off their debut PPV because in 4 months he would have to lose to Omega :dahell:

Why the fukk not just have him beat Page & cut the same promo he did after the match they taped in the UK then so that you deliver what you advertised? There is no need to rush getting to PAC vs Omega, they could just do it later since Omega ain't losing anytime soon & PAC could come back later after dropping the Dragon Gate title & still have his win that matters over Page.

Unless there is another reason that they won't just say for some reason... :pachaha:

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They always ignored TNA. Be shook of a company before they even have a tv show

In fairness, it is different because TNT is a better channel, arguably the top channel on cable and the owner of AEW is a billionaire. I think Vince has respect for other billionaires.
 

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Seems I'm really late on this but :mjlol: at anyone blaming PAC on this one. Only way you could be mad at him is if he told them he was ok with doing the job and then went :whoa: at the last minute.

Stuff like this matters to Dragon Gate, and that's who PAC's loyalty is bound to. He chose them over New Japan and they gave him the main belt ASAP as a former WWE wrestler and as a show of "thank you" for choosing them during a time were their biggest star (CIMA) and top guy like Shingo decided to leave.

AEW ain't got shyt on Dragon Gate yet and most importantly, Adam fukking Page ain't got shyt on the Dream Gate champ (regardless of who has the strap). It's one thing if he had to take the L to Omega or Jericho, or even Cody, but Page?? fukk out of here :camby: AEW still isn't the "A side" on this type of negotiations, not yet at least.

Now the story is that the problem was him facing Kenny 4 months from now? that's even more retarded than being hellbent on putting Page over :laff:
 
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