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The cinematography and the performances (other than Jeffrey Wright's) were good, the film itself though was :trash:. The film lingered waaaaay too long on shyt that didn't mean shyt in the scheme of the movie, the story is extremely cookie cutter with no real payoff for sticking with it.

The rap subplot :russell:shyt was half-baked then a mf, the flashback scenes with his pops was nothing but exposition that could've easily been implied in the prison scenes. The whole film is caught up in trying to paint the picture of how a regular kid ends up doing life despite fighting to break the cycle but there's zero character development, the whole movie is basically one long flashback where we never actually see the main character (or any of the other characters for that matter) grow into anything different outside of deciding to be there for his son. Literally none of the other characters have an arc :mindblown: From a screenwriting POV this movie is terrible. The quality of the cast made it watchable - Ashton in particular is an excellent actor - but it went nowhere and had nothing interesting to say.
 

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Whaaat??? I had to share it in TLR a moment ago :wow: Idk wtf @FruitOfTheVale is bytching about

The story didn't pay off and the characters are not well-written. The dialogue is ok and the actors did great with the material they were given, doesn't make it a good screenplay.

I went into this movie wanting to like it because I know all the locations they filmed in and know a couple of the extras but this ain't it :manny:
 

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The story didn't pay off and the characters are not well-written. The dialogue is ok and the actors did great with the material they were given, doesn't make it a good screenplay.

I went into this movie wanting to like it because I know all the locations they filmed in and know a couple of the extras but this ain't it :manny:
I think it was brilliant. The scene on the yard shows that in a way, his father did teach him how to survive but as the main character pointed out, that's not how to live. The final scene with his pops is just that, learning how to nurture life.


You from Oakland or round about tho, i get it :ehh:
 

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I think it was brilliant. The scene on the yard shows that in a way, his father did teach him how to survive but as the main character pointed out, that's not how to live. The final scene with his pops is just that, learning how to nurture life.


You from Oakland or round about tho, i get it :ehh:

My issue with the film ain't how it portrayed Oakland or the circumstances, it actually did a decent job of portraying those realistically and it seems like that's why folks enjoyed it. My issue is the film is a drama with little to no drama in it, and far too many of the plot points serve little dramatic purpose in the narrative.

The army friend's story for example serves no dramatic purpose other than hinting that the main character might be disillusioned with the square path. The army friend might have spurred the main character to get the job at Shiek's, but then again, he won't touch drug money because his dad was a knock and he makes no money rapping, so that isn't really supported within the film any more than the idea that he just needed the money and was tired of robbing. The army friend doesn't have an arc either... an example of an arc would be if he gave up on escaping the hood after all the years he put into doing that, or if he decided that instead of escaping the hood he wanted to make the hood a better place. Instead, the surgery doesn't go well and we get TQ saying he would never sacrifice his life for Amerikkka when he could make more money doing the same shyt in the hood. It isn't dramatic and there's essentially no payoff to following the army friend's story, which is why it's poor screenwriting
 

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My issue with the film ain't how it portrayed Oakland or the circumstances, it actually did a decent job of portraying those realistically and it seems like that's why folks enjoyed it. My issue is the film is a drama with little to no drama in it, and far too many of the plot points serve little dramatic purpose in the narrative.

The army friend's story for example serves no dramatic purpose other than hinting that the main character might be disillusioned with the square path. The army friend might have spurred the main character to get the job at Shiek's, but then again, he won't touch drug money because his dad was a knock and he makes no money rapping, so that isn't really supported within the film any more than the idea that he just needed the money and was tired of robbing. The army friend doesn't have an arc either... an example of an arc would be if he gave up on escaping the hood after all the years he put into doing that, or if he decided that instead of escaping the hood he wanted to make the hood a better place. Instead, the surgery doesn't go well and we get TQ saying he would never sacrifice his life for Amerikkka when he could make more money doing the same shyt in the hood. It isn't dramatic and there's essentially no payoff to following the army friend's story, which is why it's poor screenwriting
I guess breh :yeshrug:
I ain't give a fukk about ol boy in the wheelchair. It sounds like you wanted a "The Wire" type of screenplay, it's the story of one man's life
 

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My issue with the film ain't how it portrayed Oakland or the circumstances, it actually did a decent job of portraying those realistically and it seems like that's why folks enjoyed it. My issue is the film is a drama with little to no drama in it, and far too many of the plot points serve little dramatic purpose in the narrative.

The army friend's story for example serves no dramatic purpose other than hinting that the main character might be disillusioned with the square path. The army friend might have spurred the main character to get the job at Shiek's, but then again, he won't touch drug money because his dad was a knock and he makes no money rapping, so that isn't really supported within the film any more than the idea that he just needed the money and was tired of robbing. The army friend doesn't have an arc either... an example of an arc would be if he gave up on escaping the hood after all the years he put into doing that, or if he decided that instead of escaping the hood he wanted to make the hood a better place. Instead, the surgery doesn't go well and we get TQ saying he would never sacrifice his life for Amerikkka when he could make more money doing the same shyt in the hood. It isn't dramatic and there's essentially no payoff to following the army friend's story, which is why it's poor screenwriting
In Boyz In The Hood they never told the story of how Lil Chris ended up in the wheel chair :manny: I judge movies now based off how I'd feel about it if I paid to see it in the theater. If I paid to see this in the theater I wouldn't feel like I was robbed of my money....especially since I didn't even know about it a week ago so it's not like I came in with high expectations.
 

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I guess breh :yeshrug:
I ain't give a fukk about ol boy in the wheelchair. It sounds like you wanted a "The Wire" type of screenplay, it's the story of one man's life

My point was that's the case with all of the subplots and supporting characters, none of them have arcs. None of them spur the main character to make any difficult decisions he wouldn't have made himself without them being involved.

An example of a hood movie where the supporting characters have arcs that directly impact the main character is Fresh. Fresh's best friend Chuckie is a wannabe tough guy who, given the chance to live out his d-boy fantasy, becomes a liability to Fresh's survival because he's not smart enough to calculate his actions and play the game. Fresh is forced to let his best friend die (or sacrifice him as a pawn depending on how you look at the film) in order to survive, and that teaches him that there's no friends in the dope game, which becomes very important by the end of the film. Chuckie's arc is dramatic and it pushed the main character's story forward.

All Day is a much more realistic film than Fresh but the characters are just "there" instead of having fleshed-out dramatic function.
 

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Surprised at how bad Jeffrey Wright was in this. Dude normally disappears in his roles, no matter what. Here he reminded me of Key or Peele playing a street dude in one of their sketches lol

He far removed from that Peoples Hernandez role. Dont seem like he got that particular brand of chops in him no more. He was putting way too much sauce on it in this movie lol.
 

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He far removed from that Peoples Hernandez role. Dont seem like he got that particular brand of chops in him no more. He was putting way too much sauce on it in this movie lol.

Right, like his acting as Peoples went beyond a classical acting approach and clearly showed he was around some NYC Dominicans at some point in his life. But while he was effortless in Shaft, here he was try hard to the extreme. Maybe he's only knowledgeable about NY and ignorant towards the Town lol. But it was probably the worst performance of his that I've seen and it took me out of the movie
 
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