"All BAD Things Must Come to an End" - Breaking Bad Season 5: Part 2 Official Thread (SPOILERS)

[hex]

I agree with the leverage Walt has, I just don't see the Walter White they've portrayed up to this point behaving how he did at the end of the episode. Walt becomes aggressive and defiant once he's pushed to it and his back is against the wall. I didn't expect denials or lying from Walt because I never expected him to instigate that confrontation in the first place. When he found the tracker I was wondering how is he going to tackle this? Leave the tracker there and make sure whoever is watching him has nothing to see, or get rid of the tracker and indirectly let whoever is watching him know that he knows he's being watched.

Yeah, but that's what Gus did. Kept the tracker on....actually insisted Walt put the tracker on:



Then manipulated the situation to make it look like he only drove to home and work.

And Walt obviously isn't Gus. So I'm looking at it like, he dropped the ball on handling this situation to further underscore that he'll never be Gus. Walt went there to feel Hank out, which is smart....then he can't just leave, he has to pull the fukking tracker out and ask about it. Because he can't let shyt slide.

Imagine if Gus ran up on Hank in the parking lot of Los Pollos Hermanos.

Fred.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Did you peep how he had the full Gus steez with Lydia at the car wash register?

He took a page out of Gus' book from when he was that picture perfect manager at Los Pollos Hermanos right there.

Not only that, but in the flash forward he drives a Volvo. Gus drove a Volvo.

Last night he also meticulously laid down a towel to kneel on before he puked. Same as Gus did in Mexico with the poisoned tequila. They went out of their way to show it.

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Not only that, but in the flash forward he drives a Volvo. Gus drove a Volvo.

Last night he also meticulously laid down a towel to kneel on before he puked. Same as Gus did in Mexico with the poisoned tequila. They went out of their way to show it.

Thats A Good Catch But How Would Walt Even Know Gus Did That?

 

[Black Hans]

Listening to the "tread lightly" quote again, I noticed Walt's voice changed when he said the words "tread lightly"

 

[phillycavsfan]

The song from Hank's montage last night.



Seriously, the best soundtrack in the history of television.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Thats A Good Catch But How Would Walt Even Know Gus Did That?

Well this is what someone asked me last night, and maybe Fred/Hex can give his input.

I don't know that Walt necessarily had to see it. I mean yes, in most of the instances where Walt mimics a victim, it's something he's seen the victim do, even if it's just subconscious. That said, the show has admitted that they don't have to be hyper-realistic.

It could just be a visual easter egg for the audience. I don't think there was ever an argument that Walt does these things on purpose.

I definitely get your argument, and I don't disagree with you. I just know that with the cinematography they went out of their way to show Walt kneel, stop, grab the towel, then kneel again.

 

[Trey0'5Blue2Gz]

Did you peep how he had the full Gus steez with Lydia at the car wash register?

He took a page out of Gus' book from when he was that picture perfect manager at Los Pollos Hermanos right there.

He played the role so well, even charged her in his establishement

 

[Francis White]

Yeah, but that's what Gus did. Kept the tracker on....actually insisted Walt put the tracker on:



Then manipulated the situation to make it look like he only drove to home and work.

And Walt obviously isn't Gus. So I'm looking at it like, he dropped the ball on handling this situation to further underscore that he'll never be Gus. Walt went there to feel Hank out, which is smart....then he can't just leave, he has to pull the fukking tracker out and ask about it. Because he can't let shyt slide.

Imagine if Gus ran up on Hank in the parking lot of Los Pollos Hermanos.

Fred.

You mostly on point but he played Hank perfect, he put Hank on the defensive which is smart, he knows how Hank works and that Hank is a hot head, He remember that Walt Jr toyed with Gus and Hank took him along and explained to him how he works a case, by doing that he has Hank guessing how much Walt knows about his case and how he will have everyone second guessing him. Gus played it wrong, he could gone to the DEA and said that he was being unfairly profiled by a rogue agent, an agent who placed a tracking device on his car without even going thur his own force. Gus played the clean business owner but was to cute by just driving home and too work only. Walt can warn everyone that Hank is looking into him and maybe going to them also with threats to talk. Now he can't without making his case public to his boss and the other agents, Walt can show up say Hank threatened him and assaulted him, if he does that Hank is kicked off the force.

 

[Brofato]

He has Badger and Pete as friends, and he knew what Mike was about, he was no innocent, the kid getting killed was it for Jesse, if he was still with Andrea and Brock he would have a more stable foundation but he left them. Him trying to give the money to Kaylee was stupid and reckless on his part, he could did the same set-up he had before with Andrea, give them the money slowly, Kaylee has a mom who knew Mike was a killer, She knew the deal. Jesse is just weak emotionally all around, i said Jane used that her advantage and Walt picked up on that also, So did Gus when he had Mike mentor him.

Someone pointed it out earlier that they were just people he hung out with to do drugs. Druggies aren't your friends and they barely know all the shyt he's been into. They seem to only come around when he's in need of a serious distraction or for him to use them in some way.

The kid getting killed was part of the straw that broke the camel's back because he explicitly asked Walt about Mike when he brought the money back to him. He wasn't all that emotionally stable to begin with and it's been peeling him back through the whole show. I agree that what he's doing with the money is reckless but it seems natural if he's a kid that just doesn't know what the fukk to do or where to turn.

And I also agree that multiple people have pinpointed that weakness in him and exploited it. But my point was that Mike took a liking to him early when he saw what the kid was really about.

 

[hex]

When Hank Turned Around And Took The Tracking Device Out Of His Pocket I Was Like ... "They're Doing This NOW!? "

Then When Hank Closed The Garage Door I Was Like "Oh...shyt..."

"I gotta say I don't like the way you're looking at me".

The way he delivered the line was equal parts innocent concern and threat. Bryan Cranston is a great actor.

Fred.

 

[puppetmaster]

Bryan Cranston has the "menacing presence" down to a science. If Jake the Snake Roberts had been an actor he'd be him. I literally went when said "tread lightly"



-P-

 

[hex]

Could you explain this to me? I missed what you were talking about earlier in the thread

The season finale last year had a ton of call backs and shout outs to earlier eps. The painting was first seen in Season 2, Ep 3 "Bit By A Dead Bee", when Walt was in the hospital after faking his fugue state.

You see the painting again in the motel when Walt is planning the prison deaths in Season 5, Ep 8 "Gliding Over All".

Lydia said "we're going to make a lot of money together" in "Gliding Over All". Tuco said the same thing in Season 1, Ep 7 "A No Rough-Stuff Type Deal".

In the same conversation Walt told Lydia "learn to take yes for an answer". Mike told Walt the same thing in Season 4, Ep 2 "Thirty-Eight Snub".

etc, etc, etc.

Fred.

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Thats A Good Catch But How Would Walt Even Know Gus Did That?

i think you might be taking it a little too literal. is just a part of writing..its a parallel..just showing us how he is essentially in Gus' shoes right now.

 

[phillycavsfan]

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i think you might be taking it a little too literal. is just a part of writing..its a parallel..just showing us how he is essentially in Gus' shoes right now.

That's what I took from it. As I said earlier, I don't think any of Walt's imitating behaviors have necessarily been planned or conscious. I think it's largely just something for us, as the audience, to pick up on.

I don't believe that Walt on purpose copying people he's killed. I think it's mostly just a clever device used by the writers.