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Easily? Electric cars are more expensive than gasoline cars and superchargers aren't all over the country. In any given state, they're certainly not nearly as ubiquitous as a gas pump.

Also, we can't act like there aren't lobbies actively trying to keep coal, oil, and gas as the major providers of energy in this country. They are certainly putting millions of dollars into keeping it that way. Mind you, as I said the 10 year plan for the New Green Deal is ambitious. You freaked out about it. Imagine how the oil, gas, and coal industries are reacting.

There is no 10 year plan for new green deal, there's a 10 year conclusions but there is no plan let's be clear on that.


Of course they spend millions to advertise, because they are selling product and inventory.

Electric cars are a bit more expensive but are cheaper to run and are green. Of course you're not hear to be logical you're gonna bring up every excuse you can to win the argument even if it's filled with half truths. You can get used electric cars for less than 15,k and there are more than enough battery stations right now unless you're doing long hauls in remote areas.

There are lobbies spending millions to promote green energy as we and Obama administration put a lot of money in incentives for green energies , so stop it ...
 

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I literally said there were hard workers in the 1% and the 99%.



No one is saying the poor, middle class, or anything between have no blame. You're just parroting that All LIVES MATTER BS in the face of obvious bias towards hurting POC of a certain class type both siding. Asking to not kill black men at an alarming rate isn't the same as saying just kill white people and leave us alone. It's asking for equal treatment. If you can stand there with a straight face in the light of Trump's obvious bias towards removing protections that will have lasting affects on our environment and public health in the interest of special interest groups to make money and not see some need for balance we have nothing to talk about.


And thanks for making my point. Big Oil killed the first generation of Electric Cars in the 90s. We'd be on like the third or fourth generation and super cheap by now if we'd gone on it back then.

All lives matter has nothing to do with the discussion :russ: . We are talking economics and you're Turing this into a race thing because you have no facts to back up what your stating

Big oil didnt kill anything, all generation of electric cars have been underwhelming for the common person and that's why they haven't taken off and most common people don't care as much about the current situation of the environment like you believe not enough to invest money in ugly cars. You're confusing auto companies spending money on marketing cars people like to somehow being a nefarious ploy to attack poor people or PoC. It's such a dishonest and ignorant conversation you're trying to have right now it's laughable. Again both side are promoting their side, if I have inventory of oil and make my money that way, of course in going to lobby to not put restrictions on oil but in the other side you have environmentalist lobbying the other side, you have Tesla and battery makers lobbying and spending millions to do so .Obama put several initiatives in place because of this and was hoodwinked by solyndra due to this ambition .who by the way, executives made off with tax payers money...so again how is that any different? It's not you're just stupidly biased and are only speaking out of the side of your mouth

You still refuse to address the 1% graph I putupp because it destroyed your arguments . You tried to link lawyers to corporations and physicians to big pharmacy when the stats of average wages show these are personal trial lawyers (not corporate lawyers ) and the physicians are neurological surgeons and plastic surgeons. You have nothing facts just lies and opinions
 

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WHY DO YOU KEEP WANTING TO TAKE YOUR MOST TALENTED POLITICANS AND MAKE THEM PRESIDENT??????????????

LEAVE THEM IN CONGRESS

Jesus.

fukking.

Christ.

Let them MAKE LAWS.

Good god. Do yall not think long term AT ALL?!!?!?! :mindblown:

MOST Talented Politician? Can you give her/them at least 4 years?
 

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She did very well on 60 minutes. Very well prepared and earnest. Only moment that had me like :patrice: was her morality vs facts answer.
 

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There is no 10 year plan for new green deal, there's a 10 year conclusions but there is no plan let's be clear on that.

Plan is coming together. Go ahead. I'll give you that.


Of course they spend millions to advertise, because they are selling product and inventory.

I didn't say advertise. I said lobby. And no, those aren't the same thing nor are they interchangeable.

Electric cars are a bit more expensive but are cheaper to run and are green. Of course you're not hear to be logical you're gonna bring up every excuse you can to win the argument even if it's filled with half truths.

So agree with me then say I'm illogical. Ok, sure. If you find that logical, go for it.

You can get used electric cars for less than 15,k and there are more than enough battery stations right now unless you're doing long hauls in remote areas.

And you can get used gasoline cars for less than that. Who knows how you define "more than enough" so there's no point arguing that. Still doesn't change the fact that chargers aren't as ubiquitous as gas pumps.

There are lobbies spending millions to promote green energy as we and Obama administration put a lot of money in incentives for green energies , so stop it ...

There are also lobbies that spend millions on weed. But they don't spend nearly as much as tobacco lobbies. Green tech spends millions. But it's not the same type of money that oil, gas, or coal is spending. Apples and oranges, man.

Oh. And ...stop it. :heh:
 

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There is no 10 year plan for new green deal, there's a 10 year conclusions but there is no plan let's be clear on that.


Of course they spend millions to advertise, because they are selling product and inventory.

Electric cars are a bit more expensive but are cheaper to run and are green. Of course you're not hear to be logical you're gonna bring up every excuse you can to win the argument even if it's filled with half truths. You can get used electric cars for less than 15,k and there are more than enough battery stations right now unless you're doing long hauls in remote areas.

There are lobbies spending millions to promote green energy as we and Obama administration put a lot of money in incentives for green energies , so stop it ...

No there aren't more than enough battery stations. That's just not true at all.
 

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Sorry, but she get the fukk out with that "70 percent tax over 10 million".

70 PERCENT???????

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what the fukk is wrong with a 70% tax on income over 10 million?? Should be higher to be honest. No money earned over that amount is made honestly. Imagine stanning for the 1% of the 1% :mjlol:
 

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This is like the most frustrating thing Ive ever felt in politics, day fukkin one, these cowards folded, honestly almost done with this shyt. it makes no difference, 99 percent of them are frauds

 
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