After this 'Missionary' Album, Dre is the UNDISPUTED GOAT!

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That Fat Kids song sounds like some early 80s punk.

Necro has recently put out alot of videos of him discussing racism in hip hop and white people using the N word. I can't comment on it as I wasn't there in the 90s New York Rap scene.

I don't use the N word.

I respect both of them because they are great lyricists and artists as a whole.

They both contributed and continue to contribute to Hip Hop.

I like Cage's Sam Hill work alot.
Cage dissed you publicly and then you begged and paid him for a verse. You come on here acting goofy dikk sucking white rappers all day forcing them into every conversation. A cac if I ever saw one
 

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If he didn't keep promoting Detox album, while never releasing it, I think the public would have accepted this and Compton albums a little better.

But when Dre kept telling everyone how Detox will sound like the greatest shyt ever, he set the bar on himself too high.



When the Kush dropped, it didn't feel groundbreaking or anything like that. A decent Dre track with big budget. But so much of his music got uninspiring since then, now people look at tracks like Kush with great nostalgia.


None of that would've mattered. People hated Compton because they were expecting one thing and got something completely different. The expectation would've been the same had he released Detox instead. People hated "Kush" too. Then he dropped "I Need A Doctor" and even though that was a chart auccess and he performed the song at the Grammys, people hated that song even more.

Personally, I like Compton. The downside for me was Dre's rapping because he sounded too much like the person who wrote it. Not only that but sounds like he was trying to oversell it. Musically, Compton is crazy. People wanted a Khaled style compilation of an album that encompassed Dre's career up to that point. People were already fantasizing a NWA track, him working with Above The Law, Nas, Jay Z, etc. over production that ran gamut of sounds throughout Dre's career.
 

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None of that would've mattered. People hated Compton because they were expecting one thing and got something completely different. The expectation would've been the same had he released Detox instead. People hated "Kush" too. Then he dropped "I Need A Doctor" and even though that was a chart auccess and he performed the song at the Grammys, people hated that song even more.

Personally, I like Compton. The downside for me was Dre's rapping because he sounded too much like the person who wrote it. Not only that but sounds like he was trying to oversell it. Musically, Compton is crazy. People wanted a Khaled style compilation of an album that encompassed Dre's career up to that point. People were already fantasizing a NWA track, him working with Above The Law, Nas, Jay Z, etc. over production that ran gamut of sounds throughout Dre's career.

I think this notion that he is a perfectionist who is afraid to release music hurts him more. I liked Compton too, maybe because I didnt have those expectations. It was years before I actually really listened to it and this is after hearing how everyone was disappointed in it. Dre has his place in history but Missionary was more of a sales pitch of a name brand album. Snoop can make better projects by using the usual suspects of west coast producers.
 

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I think this notion that he is a perfectionist who is afraid to release music hurts him more. I liked Compton too, maybe because I didnt have those expectations. It was years before I actually really listened to it and this is after hearing how everyone was disappointed in it. Dre has his place in history but Missionary was more of a sales pitch of a name brand album. Snoop can make better projects by using the usual suspects of west coast producers.

I think Missionary doesn't work for the following reasons:

1) This isn't Dre's bag in regard to what he brings to the table for Snoop. This is more so a sound Snoop carved out with The Neptunes.

2) The title definitely works, but if this was a full cirlce moment, a Gospel Rap album would've made more sense given the title and Snoop's debut album. Snoop already did a kind of Gospel album before, but a Gospel rap album allows for a Hip Hop vibe with the instrumentation.

I really think Missionary is the best we were going to get from Dre and Snoop. It just falls flat under the weight of the legacy that we know and respect.
 
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