AFROCENTRISM AS ELITISM: THE GIFT AND CURSE OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA AGE

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I see Afrocentrism as a good thing and bad thing. Its good because it comforts and tries to counter Eurocentrism. But then it becomes hijacked by zealot radicals that make Afrocentrism no different than Eurocentrism. In that I mean have pseudo ideas like Eurocentricism.

Who's an example of zealous radicals?

I do agree that we have too many "conscious" people talking about aliens & flat earth theories lol. But they're nowhere to be found when you want to speak on tangible solutions.
 

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Who's an example of zealous radicals?

I do agree that we have too many "conscious" people talking about aliens & flat earth theories lol. But they're nowhere to be found when you want to speak on tangible solutions.

The ones who claim the Olmecs, Chinese, Japanese, Romans and Greeks were all African civilizations. Not only that but the ones who subscribe to the radical albino theories.
 

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The ones who claim the Olmecs, Chinese, Japanese, Romans and Greeks were all African civilizations. Not only that but the ones who subscribe to the radical albino theories.


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Africans traveled the entire planet breh, the Olmec were clearly Nile Valley Africans.

The Chinese were originally black, their own scientists admit this. The oppressed aboriginal dark skinned/wooly haired Asiatics can prove this.

Greeks were a mulatto nation started by Minoan Crete civilization that came from Africans traveling across the Mediterranean.

I understand going against that hokus pokus alien shyt but don't deny our history across the globe.
 

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Africans traveled the entire planet breh, the Olmec were clearly Nile Valley Africans.

Yet the Africans that "traveled the planet" undergone SNP events(mutations) that they now had traits that Africans back on the continent didn't have genetically and physically. Meaning they were no longer "African", but "Eurasian". And all this took place well before any civilizations emerged.


Also do you have proof that the Olmecs were Nile Valley Africans? Not even Van Sertima says that...

The Chinese were originally black, their own scientists admit this.
No they weren't and I don't know why people keep misinterpreting that study. What happened was that the Chinese for some strange reason felt they were the odd ones out and that they don't descend from Africans like all Eurasians do. That study that you're talking about just proves the obvious that Chinese like ALL Eurasians(including Europeans) descend from Africans. Now can you prove that Africans or hell those dark skinned Asiatics built the original Chinese dynasty. By the time of the first Chinese dynasty/civilization those northern lighter toned Asians have already migrated throughout China and would have already started the first Chinese dynasty.

The oppressed aboriginal dark skinned/wooly haired Asiatics can prove this.
Yet those aboriginal dark skinned/wooly haired Asiatics are not related to Africans from the continent. And genetically speaking they are actually distant from Africans more so than Europeans.

Greeks were a mulatto nation started by Minoan Crete civilization that came from Africans traveling across the Mediterranean.
The origins of the Minoan civilization is up to debate imo. But the founders of the Greek civilization were Southeast European.

I understand going against that hokus pokus alien shyt but don't deny our history across the globe.

The burden of proof is on you though.
 

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This makes me wonder what the social media haters' 'ideal' black female celebrity would act/look like.

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The burden of proof is on you though.


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You're right though :ehh:

I can't speak without any books/ lectures/ articles/ sources etc.



2016 and nikkas are still blindly nodding their head to anything their Europoid PWI teacher says
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You're right though :ehh:

I can't speak without any books/ lectures/ articles/ sources etc.



2016 and nikkas are still blindly nodding their head to anything their Europoid PWI teacher says
:francis:




A bunch of Youtube videos? Anyone can do that. The first video the guy is talking about the findings of South American "Negroid" findings. Those "Negroids" were NOT Africans, because the remain which is named "Naia" was said to carry Haplogroup D1 which is not even found in Africans, but instead found in Siberia(where the ancestors of Native Americans are from).
Naia appears to have been 15 years old when she wandered into what was then a dry cave. Because of a break in her pelvic bone, they say she likely fell into a pit while searching in the darkness, and died.

Naia's facial structure likely looked more like a modern African than a modern Native American, which is not unexpected for a skeleton from this era. Because of the looks, many have long speculated that the first Americans have no connection to modern Native Americans.

A genetic signature, called haplogroup D1, shows a shared lineage, however. They likely look different from each other today because of more recent evolution.

The researchers discovered the cave in 2007, littered with saber-tooth tiger bones, giant sloths, and other extinct creatures. Naia was deep in the cave, perfectly presented on a ledge with her skull resting on her arm bone.


Naia's 12,000-Year-Old Skeleton Holds Map to Ancient American Genes


Basically Paleao-Americans would have resembled Africans early on as MOST Eurasians did also including Europeans. Does not mean they were genetically African.

As for the videos about Van Sertima, I read his work and again he NEVER says the Olmecs were African themselves.

LIE ONE: - "Van Sertima's expedition allegedly sailed or drifted westward to the Gulf of Mexico where it came in contact with inferior Olmecs. These individuals created Olmec civilization." - De Montellano, Barbour and Haslip-Viera.

THE TRUTH: As far back as 1976, I made my position on this matter very clear. I never said that Africans created or founded American civilization. I said they made contact and all significant contact between two peoples lead to influences. "I think it is necessary to make it clear - since partisan and ethnocentric scholarship seems to be the order of the day - that the emergence of the Negroid face, which the archeological and cultural data overwhelmingly confirm, in no way presupposes the lack of a native originality, the absence of other influences or the automatic eclipse of other faces"-p. 147 of "They Came Before Columbus." See also Journal of African Civilizations, Vol 8, No. 2, 1986 "I cannot subscribe to the notion that civilization suddenly dropped onto the American earth from the Egyptian heaven."
Black People : - Ivan Van Sertima: "Reply to My Critics"

So again Van Sertima NEVER said Africans were the fore founders of the Olmec civilization, but only that they influenced one another. And even so there is very little strong evidence to suggest Nile Valley civilizations traveled to the Americas. There have been no physical remains, Ancient Egyptians who were known for writing down people they met and yet no mention of indigenous Americans, no pre-American items found in Egypt or vice versa,etc.

Now Muslim West Africans reaching the Americas? That's another story which actually has a good argument backed behind it. We actually HAVE historical records of an attempt for that!

As for the video titled, "Black people of Asia". "Black" indigenous people in Asia? So. They're still not African...

The one of African origins of Asians is just silly and all it is just picture spamming. The DNA of Asians Negritos and non-Negritos show them distant from Africans anyway.

The video about the Tamils and Dravidians is also even sillier and the video uploader is citing Clyde Winters who is a hack and not taken serious in acedemia. This is the same guy that tries to argue that their is a connection between Niger-Congo and Dravidian... Yet claim Berber is not African.:dead:

And don't even dare say he's not taken serious because he's black. Because while academia in the early days did not agree with Diop, they actually respected him and he is known as advancing opening to Africanist thinking in the field he is in, where as Winters is just a joke.

More importantly you can find Winters on Egyptsearch where no one takes him seriously.

Both Dravidians and Tamils carry clades that are distant from both Africans and Europeans...

Like I said Afrocentrism has a positive part but then sometimes it transmutate into radicalism where it tries to become like Eurocentrism.
 

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breh skipped right past the books & articles I posted and claimed to watch 5+ videos (some over an hour long) and read an entire book all in less than 45 minutes
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:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
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Let eurocentric scholars finesse you because "white is right" brehs. Claim hokus pokus Lumeria Annunaki space age bullshyt as "Afrocentric" brehs.
 

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Let eurocentric scholars finesse you brehs
No, I actually do my OWN research. Refute what I posted. Refute that Asians, including Asian negritos being distant from Africans genetically. Show me the Ancient Egyptians having historical records sailing to the New World. Like I said the burden of proof is on YOU.

You can believe all these things and I'm not telling you not to, but you're going to have to back it up with strong evidence.
 

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breh skipped right past the books & articles I posted and claimed to watch 5+ videos (some over an hour long) and read an entire book all in less than 45 minutes
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
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Let eurocentric scholars finesse you because "white is right" brehs. Claim hokus pokus Lumeria Annunaki space age bullshyt as "Afrocentric" brehs.

Outside the YouTube videos I did not see any articles or books besides this link you linked.
10 Great Myths of American History Dismantled

^^The author makes many good points, but his claims of Africans discovering the Americas before the ancestors of Native Americans is nonsense. And I already showed why. The Naia women while she resembled "Africans", but also Australians Aboriginals was not genetically related to Africans and carried haplogroup D1 which is not an African haplogroup.

And you projecting "white is right": and "I got finessed by Eurocentric scholars" just because I don't agree with what some people in the Afrocentric circle believe in only proves you have no real answers to what I posted.

Again fetch me a source that states Asians, Negritos and non-Negritos are closely related to Africans. And also fetch on a source on Ancient Egyptian accounts on sailing to the New World. I'm waiting. :rolleyes:

PS: Some of the videos I already watched before a while ago. But more importantly by the title of the videos I already knew what they were about. Some of them I just skimmed through.
 

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Outside the YouTube videos I did not see any articles or books besides this link you linked.
10 Great Myths of American History Dismantled

^^The author makes many good points, but his claims of Africans discovering the Americas before the ancestors of Native Americans is nonsense. And I already showed why. The Naia women while she resembled "Africans", but also Australians Aboriginals was not genetically related to Africans and carried haplogroup D1 which is not an African haplogroup.

And you projecting "white is right": and "I got finessed by Eurocentric scholars" just because I don't agree with what some people in the Afrocentric circle believe in only proves you have no real answers to what I posted.

Again fetch me a source that states Asians, Negritos and non-Negritos are closely related to Africans. And also fetch on a source on Ancient Egyptian accounts on sailing to the New World. I'm waiting. :rolleyes:

PS: Some of the videos I already watched before a while ago. But more importantly by the title of the videos I already knew what they were about. Some of them I just skimmed through.

Dr. David Imhotep breaks it all the way down in his book. You know, the first thing I posted lol.

:mjlol:

You're right though :ehh:

I can't speak without any books/ lectures/ articles/ sources etc.



2016 and nikkas are still blindly nodding their head to anything their Europoid PWI teacher says
:francis:



:coffee: but yeah I'll let you and other eurocentrick scholars tell us about African history. fukk facts, peer reviewed studies, migration patterns, cultural similarities, political similarities and DNA tests. Let's just collectively nod our heads to Europeans before massa get upset.
:sadcam:
:whoa::whoa:
:ld:
"Columbus discovered America, the Kemetyu are white and Africans sold Africans into slavery" #WhiteExcellence
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:
 

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Dr. David Imhotep breaks it all the way down in his book. You know, the first thing I posted lol.




:coffee: but yeah I'll let you and other eurocentrick scholars tell us about African history. fukk facts, peer reviewed studies, migration patterns, cultural similarities, political similarities and DNA tests. Let's just collectively nod our heads to Europeans before massa get upset.
:sadcam:
:whoa::whoa:
:ld:
"Columbus discovered America, the Kemetyu are white and Africans sold Africans into slavery" #WhiteExcellence
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:


Lol... Its seems like you're getting emotional as this goes on, especially with the continuing silly projections on me. Like I said no one is telling you not to believe what you want, but again the burden is on you to show facts.

And I never knew YouTube videos were considered "peer-viewed studios." Especially YouTubers who cite Clyde Winters. lol!

Migration patterns? Cultural similarities? DNA tests? Political similarities? SHOW ME THEM! Because that's what I've been asking for.

You asked me what I consider "radical Afrocentrism", I gave you an answer and you simply did not like it and now throwing a fit.
 
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