African lion vs Salt water crocodile
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iliketurtles
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Which is better grizzly or polarStill up there with bears as GOAT? Even though the bear vs lion thread showed, bison, horses, bulls, boars, wolves and even pumas killing grizzlys 100's of times? Sorry but that doesnt take the GOAT award any time soon.
Just because the orca is a pack animal, doesn't mean a solitary shark can take a lone orca, the same as just because a lion is a pride and pack animal, doesn't mean he'd fair any less against a grizzly. So far the records are like:
Bears 5 wins
Lions 30 wins
Lion > Bear
Polar bear, he has the better feats, walrus, baluga wales, crushing ice blocks, is 100% carnivore and is bigger.
Parnell killed monarch, he was one of the biggest performing bears boone had:
The large pit dog in the ground to hold the huge grizzly bear, Monarch, is completed. He will now have an opportunity of putting himself in good condition in his proposed fight with the man-eating lion, Parnell. A good many people are under the impression the bear would stand no show. Well, if one saw the size of this monster, be would think the show was all on his side. He is really the largest bear ever bald in captivity, and is as furious as he appears. In my opinion the trick lion, Parnell, notwithstanding bis reputation for killing people, would soon be made into mincemeat. The Monarch weighs in the neighborhood of 1750 pounds, besides baying claws' fully four inches in length.
Los Angeles Herald 26 March 1894 — California Digital Newspaper Collection
The first fight never made boone any money, as parnell snuck out of his cage and killed the bear:
http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/lccn/sn85042448/1894-03-03/ed-1/seq-1.pdf
The second fight was siskyou, boone ordred him fresh from the mountains, he was a silver tip, which many news reports tryed to get the fight shut down. Another news article states parnell was up to his old tricks and killed another bear, the same time his brother sultan killed one of his small bears, the third bear ramadan was a gift from the senator. Boone must of really hated Parnell, because he costed him great sums of money. Parnell not only killed some bears, bulls and people, he killed one of his cage mate lions. Bottom line is, Parnell killed one of boones best friends, hence he was determined to have the lion killed one way or another. Hence he pitted countless of bears and bulls:
But Colonel Boone was not satisfied and he arranged another meeting. He starved the animals some more, and fetched them together again. He tried a new scheme. He pitched the bear a chunk of meat The lion promptly waltzed up and grabbed it, and the bear stood for his work. Another bologna was tossed to the representative of California prowess. The lion got up front where he was gnawing his calf’s liver and annexed that too, and the bear never made a protest. The bear seemed to have quit flat at the start. The contest was awarded to the lion on default and the bear was drummed out of the fighting fraternity. But Colonel Boone still holds his opinion about the California grizzly. Parnell was afterwards fought against four bulls, one at a time, and in the last encounter lost his life. The first bovine gladiator was old, and he was killed easily by the lion- The second and third made a better fight, but were put out of time in a little while, the fourth bull caught Parnell in the mouth with its horn and drove the horn up through the roof of the mouth into the lion's brain, killing him.
The Anaconda Standard from Anaconda, Montana · Page 4
Parnell was not as big as the newspapers claim, like 500-600 lbs...Parnells brother Daniel was bigger than him, and boone said he only weighed 400 lbs, along with daniel was, pedro, sultan (who killed a bear too) commodore, nero and a few others:
Hartford Weekly Times - Google News Archive Search
So you have a average run around the muck lion who had already been captive for 4 years, who killed a few humans, a goat, another lion, 2 bears, stalemates one and then submits him in the 2nd fight, and 3 bulls before being killed by the 4th. And you think that lion had it rough, another lion in the roman games fought 200 battles and won:
(Cicero)
Cicero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cicero mentions a single lion that won 200 Bestariis (This is a Bestarii)
http://books.google.com/books?id=Un9...ed=0CDIQ6AEwAg
So again, you're gona need a little bit more proof than just saying the bear is bigger...as you said the bear has more stamina as well, can you prove that? I never seen a sumo wrestler or a football linemen run farther than a long distance runner or sprinter. I call this stamina bear fans always mention a myth as well, unless you can prove specifically he has more stamina than the lion.
The large pit dog in the ground to hold the huge grizzly bear, Monarch, is completed. He will now have an opportunity of putting himself in good condition in his proposed fight with the man-eating lion, Parnell. A good many people are under the impression the bear would stand no show. Well, if one saw the size of this monster, be would think the show was all on his side. He is really the largest bear ever bald in captivity, and is as furious as he appears. In my opinion the trick lion, Parnell, notwithstanding bis reputation for killing people, would soon be made into mincemeat. The Monarch weighs in the neighborhood of 1750 pounds, besides baying claws' fully four inches in length.
Los Angeles Herald 26 March 1894 — California Digital Newspaper Collection
The first fight never made boone any money, as parnell snuck out of his cage and killed the bear:
http://oregonnews.uoregon.edu/lccn/sn85042448/1894-03-03/ed-1/seq-1.pdf
The second fight was siskyou, boone ordred him fresh from the mountains, he was a silver tip, which many news reports tryed to get the fight shut down. Another news article states parnell was up to his old tricks and killed another bear, the same time his brother sultan killed one of his small bears, the third bear ramadan was a gift from the senator. Boone must of really hated Parnell, because he costed him great sums of money. Parnell not only killed some bears, bulls and people, he killed one of his cage mate lions. Bottom line is, Parnell killed one of boones best friends, hence he was determined to have the lion killed one way or another. Hence he pitted countless of bears and bulls:
But Colonel Boone was not satisfied and he arranged another meeting. He starved the animals some more, and fetched them together again. He tried a new scheme. He pitched the bear a chunk of meat The lion promptly waltzed up and grabbed it, and the bear stood for his work. Another bologna was tossed to the representative of California prowess. The lion got up front where he was gnawing his calf’s liver and annexed that too, and the bear never made a protest. The bear seemed to have quit flat at the start. The contest was awarded to the lion on default and the bear was drummed out of the fighting fraternity. But Colonel Boone still holds his opinion about the California grizzly. Parnell was afterwards fought against four bulls, one at a time, and in the last encounter lost his life. The first bovine gladiator was old, and he was killed easily by the lion- The second and third made a better fight, but were put out of time in a little while, the fourth bull caught Parnell in the mouth with its horn and drove the horn up through the roof of the mouth into the lion's brain, killing him.
The Anaconda Standard from Anaconda, Montana · Page 4
Parnell was not as big as the newspapers claim, like 500-600 lbs...Parnells brother Daniel was bigger than him, and boone said he only weighed 400 lbs, along with daniel was, pedro, sultan (who killed a bear too) commodore, nero and a few others:
Hartford Weekly Times - Google News Archive Search
So you have a average run around the muck lion who had already been captive for 4 years, who killed a few humans, a goat, another lion, 2 bears, stalemates one and then submits him in the 2nd fight, and 3 bulls before being killed by the 4th. And you think that lion had it rough, another lion in the roman games fought 200 battles and won:
(Cicero)
Cicero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cicero mentions a single lion that won 200 Bestariis (This is a Bestarii)
http://books.google.com/books?id=Un9...ed=0CDIQ6AEwAg
So again, you're gona need a little bit more proof than just saying the bear is bigger...as you said the bear has more stamina as well, can you prove that? I never seen a sumo wrestler or a football linemen run farther than a long distance runner or sprinter. I call this stamina bear fans always mention a myth as well, unless you can prove specifically he has more stamina than the lion.
Bears are feat less compared to lions:
One of the greatest lion tamers of all time: Clyde beatty
A world record croc is almost immune to anything in the water excluding hippos, sharks, elephants and killer whales.
One of the greatest lion tamers of all time: Clyde beatty
A world record croc is almost immune to anything in the water excluding hippos, sharks, elephants and killer whales.
malbaker86
Gators
Yeah and we didn't use opinion... facts proved over and over with Evidence in said discussion said lions win over bears.We had this debate before
The bear has size advantage, stamina, thick body fat, and weight.
The bear has already been disposed of..
A Carpathian Bear Killed by One Blow from a Lions Paw at Wombwell's Show.
Last night Wombwell's menagerie. at the corner of Howard avenue and Lee circle, was crowded with visitors to witness the many attractions. Though the weather was better cold outside, inside the big tent things were so snugly arranged mat everyone was comfortable. The big crowd enjoyed the different amusements offered, but had they remained a while longer they would have witnessed something that was not on the regular programme a fight between the giant lion Nero and a big black Carpathian bear. weighing about 950 pounds. There were a small number of spectators on hand. however, watching the animals being fed with raw meat, and they saw the encounter between these two ferocious beasts.
They were in a cage together, with a partition separating them. The partition had become worn, and it was intended that this morning it be repaired. Greats chunks of meat were thrown the two animals. The lion, with his mass pounds of muscle and" bone, 1 1." u iuc utui , luici ui? titiier nmsneu hist. Then he glanced sullenly over through the Pars at the lion and bear, h Inline to get to him. Sure enough the partition broke. and in a moment the two animals were locked in a regular dim I'ov.-j 'death embrace." Cart. Maitland, Ui.-uta'jer of tne sbo. savs that the: fight was of very short duration. however, and in that time he saw cxemrtiined the marvelous strength with which the naturalists accredit lions.
The bear fought and bit the lion for a few seconds, scratching his face to some extent and biting a small piece out of his paw. They swayed backward and forward for a while, when suddenly the lion drew back his tremendous paw' and dealt the bear a blow across the back that resounded all over the circus enclosure. It landed squarely on the bear's back breaking the spinal column as If It were a twig. the bear fell back dead, and the monarch of the forest. after sniffing at the dead carcass, walked back to where he had been eating and Irinrr alown facing the dead bear resumed his crunching on the meat before him. Capt, Maitland says. that he never before had any idea of the immense strength in the paw of a lion. The blow he hit the bear was of such force that the. spinal column hardly offered resistance to it. It was like the force of a battering ram 'be- tnnri a alT'tl-tnr4i nrAaani. n ...n, T,a bear was making every effort to chew up his lordly antagonist just before he was struck, while the lii did not nse h's tfsTU at all.
The Times-Democrat from New Orleans, Louisiana · Page 7
Klyk21
Hate is Rising, Love is Dying....
Croc on land might as well be a great white shark on land fighting a lion...has no mobility and lateral quicks...Lion easily on land wins solo or in a group...
NOW in water and I don't mean those wading pools you geeks are showing in these pics but in deep river crossings where zebras move a male lion would get snatched up easily by a full sized crocodile....
Those male crocs that are 18 feet long weigh 5 times what a lion does...no chance...
NOW in water and I don't mean those wading pools you geeks are showing in these pics but in deep river crossings where zebras move a male lion would get snatched up easily by a full sized crocodile....
Those male crocs that are 18 feet long weigh 5 times what a lion does...no chance...
Takes crocs food:
That's a juvenile crocodile...not a fair fight.