African Americans created a pillar of videogame music: Techno
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a "mut" of African decentLike you said, a hominid species. If you have Neanderthal DNA you're a mut at best
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I'm not talking where they're from, I'm talking about what they are. And they are not truly human. They're a mutt
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chicago house started it all
Camile.Bidan
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I can't think of any new world genres outside of Mexican corridos that weren't created by people of African descent.
Ragtime--based on african traditial scales--"blue notes"/call and response (when one plays ragtime this becomes obvious as the right hand usually responds to the melody of the left hand)/ polyrhythms.
Jazz-- this one is one of the more obvious.
Blues -- obvious
Rock-n-roll--historically known to have been created by black people.
Soul -- obvious
R&B - obvious
Tango-- created by black people, and well documented
Electro/freestyle--again well documented
Funk-- another obvious one
Hardcore-- pioneered by bad brains
Techno -- again well documented.
Reggae -- obvious
Dub -- obviously created by King Tubby and Scientist and set the precedent for Bass heavy music round the world.
Disco-- obvious
Hip-hop -- obvious
Trap/Crunk -- created by DJ Paul and juicy j back in 92 - 95.
Dub Step -- Since black people created Dub and created the Crunk/trap sound, this means blacks basically created Dub step, which is a derivative of these genres.
House music -- created by black DJs at the Chicago club "The Warehouse"-- this also well documented
Reggaeton-- obviously african influenced and based on dance hall raeggae..
Latin Jazz -- invented by black American Jazz mucisian dizzy G. By extension that means salsa and all other Latin jazz derivatives are invented by blacks.
I can't really think of anything that was not influenced by blacks
Country music may have the most similarity to European folk music, but even it has african influenced like the banjo and country also uses blue notes/ polyrhythms and call-response.
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Camile.Bidan
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New evidence is challenging this assertion.
Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Are living Africans nested within Eurasian genetic variation (?)
Those with Neanderthal DNA aren't truly human
Like you said, a hominid species. If you have Neanderthal DNA you're a mut at best
Yall gone do this in here
how you gone drag Dienekes blog into thecoli 
.....and as supporting evidence to a position 
...that's a cac move 
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Camile.Bidan
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Yall gone do this in here
Dienekes is racist? I have never seen him post something like that.
I have seen the journal article discussed in other places.
the fact that modern human DNA is detected in archaic human remians in North China that are more than 100k years old is nearly Copernican. The whole story that has been taught to us was completely wrong.
I still think the homo family originated in Africa but as far as moderns coming out of East Africa and sweeping through the world like Mongolian raiders--that clearly did not happen. There multiple migrations and multiple failures.
It also appears that admixture events weren't limited to just Neanderthals and denisovans. It's highly complex story that was initially simplified for political reasons.
At the risk of further derailing my thread:
I try not to use words like racist because they are too wide open. My assertion is this...
1. Dienekes does not believe the ancient Egyptians were Africans or to be specific he believes the ancient Egyptians were a "back migration" of people into Africa
2. Dienekes attempts to place "Caucasians" in the African fossil record based on phenotype without regard for the fact that there are African people who have the same phenotype(bone structure) as those bones dug up..
3. Dienekes is a biological racialist who puts forth a (2.0 version)polygenetic origin hypothesis. ...No Out of Africa migration, humanity started in multiple places, Europeans are special because of their neanderthal DNA, ETC,ETC
Again, these are my assertions given what i've come across of him in my dealings over the past couple years. Basically any time we have new data on african people in the geological, archaeological, genetic, etc. record Dienekes is one of those people always trying to spin the data to his politics ...which isn't saying much because lots of other people do the same(looking for data that backs their hypothesis ...or interpreting data in a way that it can uphold their hypothesis)
What caused me to question you is "why would this poster include a guy who interprets data with the kind of positions Dienekes takes".
......reads like a cac move on the surface 
The politics go like this:
People like him pushes no OOA migration under the guise that scientist were under some kind of political/cultural pressure to appease "the blacks". In the process of this appeasement scientist gave up on the old origin theories and interpreted the biological, fossil, archaeological record in favor of Africans.
In response to this position they go back to old hypothesis of humans origins and try to use new data to bluster those old models that had been largely done away with in the scientific community. Old models(some of these are closely linked) include...
- Biological race
- polygenetic origin theory
- Ancient back migration theory(still around actually)
- Asian origin of man theory
- Hamitic hypothesis
- Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Australoid theories of race
I wouldn't say that at all Juan Atkins was making music back in 79 when house DJs were still spinning disco records. You'd have a better chance saying electro funk started it than house ...I wouldn't agree with you but I'd give more points. Now if you said they (techno & house) influenced each other or merged at points i'd agree because they overlap at a lot of points. That said house at it's base is still "synthetic" disco music. Techno really doesn't take disco or any other genre as it's primary base.
The common use of beat machines, sequencers, along with that common African musical Heritage means that they did similar things with the machines which is where the overlap comes from. I gave a nod to this in my definition of techno...
By that I was referring to house music. Everything done on beat machines, sequencers, etc without a prior genre filtered through as a primary base I call techno. Admittedly it's a loose definition but it does the job well enough.
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So Europeans...who invented most of the string instruments, horn instruments, and keyboard instruments(like piano) didn't invent any kind of music?
what kinda bothers me when discussing musical origins with people(of all races) is that every individual race wants to make their claim to what they created.
In reality most of the music that you have mentioned was created through some type of hybrid evolution from all types of music.
However, (especially with American music) the fact that blacks being such a small percentage of the population were able to have such a HUGE contribution to all types of music is quite an amazing feat in itself.
I think you are misinformed on a lot of the music types you mentioned above...but considering this is the Coli.. I'll let you cook.
I kinda see where you are going with that line of questioning but I wouldn't go as far as charging him with saying "didn't invent any kind of music"As for @Camile.Bidan I would definitely say Europeans contributed ...I personally like progressive/psychedelic rock, some 90's grunge, instrumental bluegrass, movie scores, etc. Though I assume he would say those are either derivatives of "black music" or straight carry overs from Europe hence not necessarily new forms. Then your back at the starting point again....
Sidenote: Remember alot of those instruments already existed before Europeans got there hands on them...even the idea of music notation came from elsewhere.
I had to add this 
...this is exactly what I mean by chip tune is when you take an established genre and render /compose a genre peice on a native sound board.
This metal/rock soundtrack actually reminds me of the praise that lords of thunder and gates of thunder got for their soundtracks ...though this was around the time CD were started to be used as a medium so you had better sound which makes it easier to tell what they were going for.
...this is exactly what I mean by chip tune is when you take an established genre and render /compose a genre peice on a native sound board.
This metal/rock soundtrack actually reminds me of the praise that lords of thunder and gates of thunder got for their soundtracks ...though this was around the time CD were started to be used as a medium so you had better sound which makes it easier to tell what they were going for.
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