"Africa is a c00n continent!" - TBA :whew:

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Have your own countries on the richest continent in the world, retain your heritages, and still compare yourselves to your lost, and broken brothers of a 400 year eugenics program/mental and physical terrorist state brehs

And still lose on cultural impact

African countries are colonial siphon products and the cultural heritages that could've resisted Europeans were literally blown up by cacs.

Don't pretend that Af-Ams are doing better on the combating white supremacy front. After all, you don't have sovereignty.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Go say that bullshyt in Africa

 

[Frangala]

Sad responses all over no nuanced arguments blank generalizations. Sounds familiar? I have actually been in Africa the past 2months (Senegal, Cameroon, Sierra Leone, Ghana). Some of you idiots haven't been past the corner bodega down your block and have the nerve to engage in these types of complex discussions with generalizations.

 

[How Sway?]

I don't always endorse Jason Black's methods, but Africans need to ask themselves: WTF happened?

Nkrumah, the South African boycott, Cheikh Anta Diop, the Ethiopian Airforce quietly recruiting AAs to build their air force, and then in turn training pilots of newly independent countries despite their to this point: a bunch of new Africans in the diaspora who can create nothing for even themselves in their new country or the old.

Since y'all love your ethnics or imported religions so much why don't y'all rally round them to build something like the other immigrants? With the education and connections of the Africans they let into the US(we know they're very selective about those they let set foot in the USA) Africans should be on some next level type ish. All them African nurses, y'all should have a vice grip on old folks homes and outpatient care like dem other folks have on liquor stores. You love education so much and claim to love your "culture" so much, so where's the equivalent of the Chinese and Japanese study centers for your kids? Or dwights are going to teach your children to respect African culture ?

My God, all the damn Ifa worshipers on the intanets are AAs, Brazilians, and even Puerto Ricans. Not one African will admit they worship Ifa anonymously on the internet.

My Africans, WTF happened to y'all. Sunken place?

Holy shyt, if this is not the most ignorant post of the thread so far.

 

[Free White & 21]

African countries are colonial siphon products and the cultural heritages that could've resisted Europeans were literally blown up by cacs.

Don't pretend that Af-Ams are doing better on the combating white supremacy front. After all, you don't have sovereignty.

The "combating white supremacy front" is an African diaspora movement

We all we got

 

[kaldurahm]

I'm a Ghanaian who has family round those parts. The way my uncle was describing many other ethnicities of people eating over there I'm just like what the actual fvck are you guys doing? We still allowing neo-colonialism and letting people take advantage of us?

Some of the sht he's saying is true, lets be real. Africans are too passive. Politicians corrupt don't even care the money being invested from other countries, being stolen and invested elsewhere instead of building up the infrastructure.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Alright. I'll contribute one thought regarding Nigeria - a country which should be Africa (black peoples) great power given it's large population (over 190 million) and resources (people, oil/natural gas/coal).

After the Nigerian Civil War, the generals who won the war thought that Nigeria lurching towards being a supporter of Pan-Africanism would be a great way of bringing Nigerians together after the wreckage of a war that slaughtered or starved more than 1-3 million Nigerians to death. Also, it could project Nigeria's power across the continent and diaspora.

So, the generals:
1) Began funding the ANC (gave over $1 billion to the ANC) and supporting their intellectuals/fighters (Umkhonto we Sizwe)
2) Supported Zanu and Zapu against the Rhodesians. Even threatening to cut Britain off from Nigerian oil if they didn't abide by the Lancaster House agreements.
3) Hosted the '77 World Black Festival
4) Armed Angolan MPLA against the Portuguese and later, the South Africans Boers


etc. etc.

But Nigeria's foray into pan-Africanism could not overcome the contradictions of the Nigerian state. When oil prices began to plummet in the 80s, domestic politics became a zero-sum game and scarcity made the generals turn away from pan-Africanism to doing whatever they could to destroy their foes within Nigeria (academics, activists in the Niger Delta etc.).

So today, when Nigerians are killed in South Africa by Zulus we are bitter. We sacrificed our wealth for this insult.







But let's face it. Pan-Africanism (the old type from the 60s and 70s) fell apart when white rule was destroyed by pan-Africanists. Then the victors turned against each other in the Congo.

 

[Frangala]

The "combating white supremacy front" is an African diaspora movement

We all we got

Again another stupid myth. Isn't colonialism white supremacy? And aren't anti- colonialism figures like Lumumba's speech and his arguments for Congolese independence greatly touches on racial discrimination so does Sankara so does the whole apartheid movements of the ANC in South Africa. What the hell are y'all on?

 

[qwasi]

Now see this is what people don't ever think about. Have you ever considered the idea that in Africa people never really had a concept race only alliances my family and tribe? I think this is something that most people don't consider when they talk about Africa especially black Americans. And this is why I was saying another threat we are so very different understanding of what it means to be black is very very different.

@Bold. TRUTH!!! The biggest issue affecting (westernized) Africans i.e AA or European Blacks is Racism. The biggest issue in Africa I feel will always be tribalism. Both variants often involve social-economic and political issues which in many ways can source their root to the same cause. Where the problem often arises is one side undermining the value of the other. For instance Africans might pierce European/American Blacks as fortunate as they have access to western resources minus the racial divide. On the inverse the other side (westernized) sees indigenous Africans with access to potential resources AND racial homogeneity (since they see all blacks = same. in terms of culture etc). Both sides can stand to learn from the other but its this misplaced disdain which does more harm than good.

 

[Frangala]

I'm a Ghanaian who has family round those parts. The way my uncle was describing many other ethnicities of people eating over there I'm just like what the actual fvck are you guys doing? We still allowing neo-colonialism and letting people take advantage of us?

Some of the sht he's saying is true, lets be real. Africans are too passive. Politicians corrupt don't even care the money being invested from other countries, being stolen and invested elsewhere instead of building up the infrastructure.

They are I was in Ghana two weeks and I saw this but there are also those who aren't so deferential to expats or Lebanese and these tend to be the educated ones. The whole African women trying to get a white man stems from poor African women who see old white expats (specifically men) as a way out of poverty because they see them as a sign of wealth.

That phenomenon as an indictment on governments who are not creating structures good enough to provide a good lives for their citizens. Those Ghanaians who are educated whether locally or outside rarely are intermingling with white people period and especially expats and are active in trying to create opportunities in terms of entrepreneurship for thier fellow citizens.

As a result, you can only make this type of analysis if you have been to those countries like myself instead of broad brushing with the c00n uneducated argument like it is rampant throughout this thread.

 

[SagalaMiner]

Holy shyt, if this is not the most ignorant post of the thread so far.

The one thing I'm sure Jason Black is 100% right about is that in the greater world as an African you have NO EXCUSES AND NO SECOND CHANCES.
People may pretend and nod when you guys go off on the long winded excuses but in their minds they're thinking "these people don't have their shyt together, I can ignore them or exploit them".

 

[kaldurahm]

They are I was in Ghana two weeks and I saw this but there are also those who aren't so deferential to expats or Lebanese and these tend to be the educated ones. The whole African women trying to get a white man stems from poor African women who see old white expats (specifically men) as a way out of poverty because they see them as a sign of wealth.

That phenomenon as an indictment on governments who are not creating structures good enough to provide a good lives for their citizens. Those Ghanaians who are educated whether locally or outside rarely are intermingling with white people period and especially expats and are active in trying to create opportunities in terms of entrepreneurship for thier fellow citizens.

As a result, you can only make this type of analysis if you have been to those countries like myself instead of broad brushing with the c00n uneducated argument like it is rampant throughout this thread.

Yeah it was hard for me to understand and process what my uncle was saying. I'm heading there next year already have a ticket purchased. I keep hearing negativity about the politics over there, it's frustrating

Literally the type of shyt i've heard:
"China invested x amount in extraction of bauxite in Ghana" huh?
"The preceding president took funds and invested it in a hotel in Dubai" what the fck?
"There was a highway that was supposed to be built from 80s/90s and still hasn't been built"

 

[How Sway?]

But we're taking about Africans

Well hey, congrats on your Plat since that's clearly the motive of you making this thread

 

[MajorVitaman]

So which country in Africa can I, as a descendant of stolen Africans, gain dual-citizenship on some Israel type shyt?

 

[Frangala]

So which country in Africa can I, as a descendant of stolen Africans, gain dual-citizenship on some Israel type shyt?

Ghana I believe that's what I have heard