AEW has no excuse to be as bad as it is

[julesocean]

Except that nyla rose is a face on the last show...we doing turns on hugs now..she told the crowd they have free burger coupons only to say sike...why would a face do that?



Wtf??

When was Nyla a face? With Vickie? That's a duo you can't cheer for. Go back and watch the PPV match it was clear they were big upping the whole time and pointing out the fan support she has been garnering. then Nyla come out and be a dikkhead. Very clear breh. Oh yeah and the hug, and she promoting McDonalds.

 

[SmarkMero]

My problem with it is there are a lot of Scrubs on that roster. They just don't look polished.

 

[julesocean]

dmd is basically running tweener flair gets jacked by funk.
yet i will not be watching that particular feud.
as it is not women's wrasslin. It is a self emasculated castrated gelded man in surgically enhanced dress up cosplay.
that sends the wrong message.
in a tranparent world on a product.
that is a children's product no matter what level of tricknology is applied to try to make it into an androgyonous based medium wrongly as well.
this is also a main issue with aew. As it promotes the wrong side of season. When thr indie heroes were supposed to be establishing a product. That has plausible psychology.
that is applicable to being understood in a child based medium.
if a parent is available to act as a gateway to said product as a rule.
in this manner of wb presentation to undermine any idea of a sound family based structure product. With their offbrand gateway idea of sabotaging children's medium with androgyny based lifestyle ideals. When the male and female dialectic can not be argued out of intellectual space.

instead,...of the idea of tony being made a gelding gushing over dmd's ascent like the male Reba. To possibly becoming a heel color older commentator. could be a retread done right possibly.
so i like the idea of tony becoming a heel color correspondent through this program. Plus the idea of if it fails. Tony can have comeuppance and grow a backbone as an on screen character and commentator. As he is too set in his model of success. to incorporate fully versed knowledge of all the innovated moves in the current age of Indy goes big wrasslin.
so to it makes sense to have tony played up as a more evolved on screen character. As jr has the just there to work character. Tony would usually have. All the tony works are entertaining. So it is good to see him used competently on aew. Schiavone has been a welcome voice on my tv from aew.

so seeing this actually go somewhere with actual build and insults.
consistently has been one of the small slow builds to playoffs on aew.
The only bad on aew is the in house WWE developed workers.
or clique slash goblin affected portions of the show. Yet even there those portions of the show not named cody. Has shown a penchant to ramp and not just come out of the special got damn entrance.
tony has been more vulnerable than cody. When the Rhodes family is about getting your shyt kicked in and maybe once getting some come uppance.
cody should be getting destroyed by qt Marshall and making Marshall into this yeah workrate heel stsbling leading antibody. That when he gets a belt. cody gets his ass whipped again and again like his dad did to thr horsemen. Till he finally got his few once in a lifetime come uppances.

with cody...he could take some clue from Tony on how to be vulnerable a s a character and build to something else.

plus the way cody is gelded by some weird offbrand agenda.
to allow their new women's champion to not build up. Like a workrate based champion to move into the thunda rosa feud.
to instead use sensationalism based booking of the obsolete wwf superstars variety. Which is far and away from the Rhodes nwa based formula. No matter hw many southern Georgia meets Memphis west Texas redneck bf storylines they wanna swap from the carny southern wraslin hof.

this dmd wrassles a man bullshyt.
needs to be moved to a more workrate based angle and workers.
as all it does is present a product in androgyny.

that negatively cancels the parental rational foundation.

art barr

I like the arc. At first people were shytting on her for being trash. Then she put in work with her skits and genuinely got better in the ring at the same time. And all of a sudden you have fan support, and what was Brit bullying Tony in skits is now a wholesome embrace because the fans fukk with her. It was very good timing on AEW's part to do a PPV match turn and you could watch Dynamite and not know she had just been a heel. Good stuff on capitalizing on getting over and not having her stay a "cool" heel.

 

[DaHNIC82]

The WWE being awful is a reflection of the business as a whole. Long as the masses see that, The business will continue to suffer

 

[julesocean]

My problem with it is there are a lot of Scrubs on that roster. They just don't look polished.

That's one benefit of the "WWE system" and performance center, you get used to a specific workrate and match layout. You get to perfect it. Alot of these AEW dudes come straight from the indies, never taught to slow down, never taught to pace, form their own matches. Then the only place they can go to practice is on Dark and Elevation, where they just get slaughtered with botch compilations.

 

[methodz]

AEW had a rough stretch recently, the last Dynamite was their worst one so far. However 5 days later Double or nothing ran and it was of the best wrestling PPVs I've ever watched.

I watch zero WWE so I don't care to judge. I'll judge AEW and some of its flaws, Cody and family and friends is my biggest beef. It needs to be Cody and Cody alone. Most people don't care about Dustin or anyone in the nightmare family feud from both sides and it ranges from the Gunns to QT to Lee Johnson or Aaron Solow. Ogogo has untapped potential but he is raw as fukk.

My other problem is the signing of some old veterans like Christian, Big Show, Sting and Henry. Move on from the past, I don't mind Show and Henry as analysts as long as they remain that and only that.

Sting needs to be treated like a rare spawn, there's no reason he's on TV weekly and should be on once or twice every 2 months or so.

Christian, I'll accept based on his match with Kazarian, he can go but if I had to do it again, I wouldn't have signed him

It will be hard for them to not do very well short and long term tho

 

[Lurk Angle]

The WWE being awful is a reflection of the business as a whole. Long as the masses see that, The business will continue to suffer

This

Even when wcw was on top wwe being successful always meant the business as a whole being successful

 

[Vice Queen]

 

[The Solid One]

 

[Ribbs]

Whole lot of grasping at straws for argument (or trolling) sake. One thing I'll never understand with wrestling fans: if anyone gets released or fired from the WWE, y'all want them to starve. You laugh at them if they go to ROH/Impact, shake your first if they go to AEW and you shrug if they go to Japan.

I'm well aware of the faults of AEW booking but I'm still tuned in hoping it would turn itself around. They'll be without Mox for the time being, potentially Page too, let's see if they can fill in the roster spot with who they have. I can tell just by scrolling whose actually watched the show because some of you are saying The Elite needs to get out the title picture, when they just started their reigns in recent months. It's only a 3 year old company, give it time.

 

[Brad Piff]

All we hear from people who like aew is “chill, give em time” whenever they get criticized.. well how much time is enough?

I have a feeling that even in their 5th or 10th years we’d be hearing the same thing. They’ve had more than enough time to work the kinks out. Tony Khan has been named “booker of the year”, Dynamite has been given “Show of the year”, they can sleep through their matches and still be given 5 stars from Meltzer. Their PPV numbers are great supposedly. Sounds like they got it all figured out to me. So why should they be afforded more time to get their shyt straight?

Accoring to Meltzer they’re the perfect promotion but the fans clearly see a lot of shyt wrong with the product. The book needs to be taken from little Tony.

I don’t care that meltzer thinks he’s the booker of the year, he fukkin sucks.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

My problem with it is there are a lot of Scrubs on that roster. They just don't look polished.

Breh 80 percent of the roster is character creation . Like I get it, most of the wrestlers are from the indies that WRESTLING FANS recognized. Meanwhile, CASUALS do not know who a fukking Orange Cassidy is, or why I need to sign up for the Dark Order.

Yet, the promotion beats it in the casuals heads that these dudes are legit, but they are botching until the cows come home.

Like I said countless times that AEW never should had been a thing, but All IN should had been a annual event from the get go. Yet, here we are with threads lining up the constructive criticisms to straight up troll shyt and folks still think that there is not a problem with AEW.

The boys brought in 450,000 viewers . THIS IS A PROBLEM!!

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

All we hear from people who like aew is “chill, give em time” whenever they get criticized.. well how much time is enough?

I have a feeling that even in their 5th or 10th years we’d be hearing the same thing. They’ve had more than enough time to work the kinks out. Tony Khan has been named “booker of the year”, Dynamite has been given “Show of the year”, they can sleep through their matches and still be given 5 stars from Meltzer. Their PPV numbers are great supposedly. Sounds like they got it all figured out to me. So why should they be afforded more time to get their shyt straight?

Accoring to Meltzer they’re the perfect promotion but the fans clearly see a lot of shyt wrong with the product. The book needs to be taken from little Tony.

I don’t care that meltzer thinks he’s the booker of the year, he fukkin sucks.

Breh NWA Powerrr started sometime two years ago and have a more polish show despite the hic ups from Covid.

IMPACT in all of its changes and misfortunes are doing fine during the constant reboots.

Hell, MLW revived in 2017 despite being off and on over the decades, yet they had a legit showing during the startup and even fukkING WARGAMES .

This is getting annoying where folks constantly saying the same "they gotta cook", breh, the food is damn near burnt . They signing all of this talent without no payoff, have two pointless shows without no sight of growth, a main show that is going through the motions, and 100 stables without a slight clue of why shall I give a shyt about each of those groups.

 

[Reality Check]

My problem with it is there are a lot of Scrubs on that roster. They just don't look polished.

That's where bringing in more vets with decades of live TV experience (Big Show, Mark Henry, Christian, Sting) come into play. Having people who can bring some experience and knowledge to mentor the other talent (don't go into the "they're signing the old guys" bs since Henry and Show aren't wrestling, Sting has wrestled two matches in 7-8 months, and Christian hasn't wrestled regularly) on polishing their character for a TV audience instead of a Youtube audience is valuable. Bucks, Omega, and Tony Khan didn't have weekly live television experience prior to Dynamite and while Cody Rhodes did, it wasn't in the capacity that he's in currently.

Like I said countless times that AEW never should had been a thing

You have to be a true stooge to actually believe this. Say what you want about the in-ring product or the TV show, but AEW being "a thing" is the best thing to happen to the wrestlers in the industry in a while. Them "being a thing" forced WWE, the company some in here pledge holy allegiance to, to increase the number of years in their standard contracts and increase the amount of money offered to talent, in order to keep people from going to AEW. And because of these bloated contracts forcing releases due to "budget cuts", other feds are able to deepen their rosters with TV ready talent that want to prove themselves on their own.

 

[Neuromancer]

They turned her face. That was quite clear with the hug and commentary, and then Dynamite segment on Friday.

Why though? She's a great heel.