ADOS Inspired AFROBEAT | Fela Kuti Admits He Found His Blackness In America Through ADOS

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[Swahili P'Bitek]

Not all African music being made today takes its cues from the western world.Not even afrobeats itself, there is a lot of music that is just a modern version(instrument-wise) of what already existed, from the beats to the vocal stylings, and a lot of Africans like the music. From the west you frequently have songs like this:

It's not dancehall, nor hip hop influenced rhythmically, beatwise or otherwise, you could argue maybe that burna has a dancehall-singjay delivery perharps.It was a hit in Africa.
From the east you regularly have songs like this:

Influenced solely by taarab and chakacha music of east africa both vocally, sonically and lyrically.But a person who doesn't know this might just brush it as an attempt at RnB from this side.It too was a hit in the region.

 

[Deuterion]

Not all African music being made today takes its cues from the western world.Not even afrobeats itself, there is a lot of music that is just a modern version o(instrument-wise) of what already existed, from the beats to the vocal stylings, and a lot of Africans like the music. From the west you frequently have songs like this:

It's not dancehall, nor hip hop influenced rhythmically, beatwise or otherwise, you could argue maybe that burna has a dancehall-singjay delivery perharps.It was a hit in Africa.
From the east you regularly have songs like this:

Influenced solely by taarab and chakacha music of east africa both vocally, sonically and lyrically.But a person who doesn't know this might just brush it as an attempt at RnB from this side.It too was a hit in the region.

Damn that first one bangs...no one drums like Africans.

 

[Samori Toure]

African American music is heavily predicated by Western, European influence and "templates" as you put it. Every technical aspect of modern music that we consider signature of "black music" including lead singer-to-chorus call-and-response structures, pitch/string bending and imitating vocals using instruments, bar-by-bar repetition, polyrythmic melodies/bass lines are of African origin. Most of the vocal techniques we associate almost exclusively with black people, black music, and worship, including the incredible ability to belt, hold, and bend a "high note" is of clear African origins. In fact there are African tribes whos entire societies were based around singing and the ability to do this one thing. Most of the instruments we associate with black music were of African invention, known to our ancestors long before becoming "American." The Guitar and the banjo are both based on various stringed African instruments such as the Kora and the Akonting. The modern piano was invented in Ancient Egypt and is heavily based on Sub-Saharan African instruments like the Marimba, Mbira, and Balafon. I can go on.

African Americans didnt fall from the sky and create the Blues. We weren't swinging joyously in the jungle devoid of a sophisticated culture until the white man brought us to America. We came to America with a wealth of knowledge in navigation, agriculture, architecture, but most especially art and music already in our minds. Its sad that you choose to limit the scope of your history and identity to the moments after you were enslaved, and not the glorious past that is still part of our cultures and identity to this day.

African American music is a mixture of European musical influence combined with African musical technique dating mellenias and still prominent to this day. This is not to undermine the genius and originality of our ancestors in America. I refuse to be dragged into the same self hating ignorance. But just to point out the flawed logic youre putting out there. Does a European influence attribute African American music--and therefore, by your logic, ALL black music--to white people regardless of who ultimately conceived it? Do whites have permission from you woke hashtag clowns to constantly undermine our entire history and culture using the same ego stroking, insecure logic youre now adapting against your own people? African Americans inspired modetn Afrobeat (they did) but your ego cant stand admitting the tremendous inspiration Caribbean DJing and sound system culture had on Hip Hop and still clearly has on Hip Hop?

Again, I dont limit or conflate my pride or history with white people, nor do I measure or conflate my pride in any black liberation movement with the wealth and "opportunity" of the white country it took place in, certainly not to stick my nose up at other black people living in exploited third world nations. What kind of fukked up next level c00nery? This is what passes for pro-black nowadays? Im proud of my people's political advancement and determination everywhere, not just the white countries, so I wont understand this thinking or what you want to prove. I wont be dragged into the ignorance.

If what you want is a dikk measuring contest over whos culture is the most prevalent, globally, then African American culture wins, obviously. American entertainment in general is the most prevelant worldwide. There is no contest here and frankly I think anyone sitting in a third world country could admit that American culture is more dominant then their own. And they can somehow admit that and still take pride in their own culture. Again, how does this undermine black cultural achievements outside of the United States? Is Reggae and Dancehall not also loved all over the world? Is Latin (and by Latin I mean African) dance music not popular around the world? Is West African dance music not gaining new ground in just the past couple years, thanks mostly to American artists actually? The fact these genres outside of America gained such far reach despite originating from penniless third world countries should give you as much pride as the one you hold (albeit, insecurely) for African American culture, risen from plantation fields and impoverished ghettos. Black people are just awesome.

It seems obvious you view black pride entirely through the lens of "the West." A shame. I encourage you to open a book on musical theory and the history of African American music so you can understand how silly this whole topic is.

I guess Im just old school pro-black and dont get what the fukk this is suppose to prove.

African American music is predicated on the Blues and Gospel music. Period.

All African American music and for that matter all of American music (like Rock and Roll and Country music, Bluegrass music, etc.) come out of the African American Blues and Gospel music.

 

[Samori Toure]

Well people keep saying AAs got no culture and we don’t retain our african ness



then come out and say “well call and answer is from Africa and the special Islamic scales..” .. that would mean that we do indeed retain our african ness


So which the fukk is it?

Yup. You hit it right out the park. People don't know what they are talking about. African Americans probably retained more of their African culture than any other group of people brought to the Western Hemisphere as slaves. African Americans brought their Blues and their Islamic faith with them from their homelands in the Western Sahel. Islam has been alive and well in African American churches for centuries without much notice from anyone until recent times. Even the way that African American used to sit in churches with the women on one side and the men on the other side was right out of Islam. What African Americans call shouting in our churches is right out to the Islamic Shawt (the Hajj) when the ancestors visited Mecca.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Since this is a so called intellectual thread/forum please don't speak on Fela/Nigeria unless you understand the country.

Let me guess, Fela learned how to make music that lead to his mother being murdered by the government that he criticized and letter murdered himself from ADOS.

Thank you ADOS for giving Nigeria Fela

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Imagine this song existing and Nigerians STILL voted for Buhari and are suffering front he same shyt Fela warned them of decades ago

Fela is bigger than dumb ass threads like this one

 

[The Up Right Man]

Since this is a so called intellectual thread/forum please don't speak on Fela/Nigeria unless you understand the country.

Let me guess, Fela learned how to make music that lead to his mother being murdered by the government that he criticized and letter murdered himself from ADOS.

Thank you ADOS for giving Nigeria Fela

Why didn’t you address Fela’s quote posted in OP instead of picking and choosing what to complain about?

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Why didn’t you address Fela’s quote posted in OP instead of picking and choosing what to complain about?

Because the premise of the thread is not genuine and is therefore disrespectful to Fela.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Fela the GOAT

 

[Neuromancer]

Dope so we all gonn be like we all black people and call it right?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Time stamped the modern Afrobeatz part

 

[Mowgli]

the older afro beat. absolutely.

but modern afrobeat is mostly dancehall influence now

and yes, I know dancehall had some hip hop elements

and reggae came from R&B

 

[Premeditated]

and reggae came from R&B

did it?
I'm not even trying to be funny.

they just don't sound alike.

 

[BlackJesus]

You ADOS weirdos need to go on somewhere with this goofy shyt man

Loudest most annoying dudes in the room