Adam Carolla vs. Gavin Newsom: What's Wrong With Blacks And Latinos?

[Serious]

It's good to see the discussion in a mainstream outlet.

so many of the problems in the united states really revolve around the gap between Whites/East Asians/ South Asians and Blacks/ Latinos (to lessor degree for latinos).

We when talk about our schools failing our children. Who are they really "failing"? If you removed Blacks and latinos from the the scores, then there isn't really a problem with American test scores actually.

Then there's a a problem with Gun violence and homicides. Who commits the majority of the Gun murders?

Murder in America - WSJ.com By and large Blacks.

Go to any college campus, or any Business campus (google/intel/oracle etc), and you'll definitely see an East Asian and South Asian majority with Strong white presence and very few Blacks and latinos if any.



Race seems to matter much more in our society than many are willing to admit.

 

[AV Dicey]

Kimmel need to splain to his republican friend that everything is not black and white. Talm bout jews had it worse (arguable) but they aint had it worse in merica tho + blacks and messicans havent been propped up by wasp's as a hedge in case the world actually ends and god and em get to fightin

 

[zerozero]

Kimmel need to splain to his republican friend that everything is not black and white. Talm bout jews had it worse (arguable) but they aint had it worse in merica tho + blacks and messicans havent been propped up by wasp's as a hedge in case the world actually ends and god and em get to fightin

besides the fact that jewish history in america has been significantly different from AA history

I also think the asian civil rights struggle is kinda submerged in people's minds.. the 'model minority' stereotype overlooks the heavy challenges that asian-american community has faced and continues to struggle with

 

[No_bammer_weed]

The Japanese and Jews, two examples Corrolla used to belittle blacks, have one thing in common --- they both received reparations for the social atrocities committed against their group.

 

[bzb]

The Japanese and Jews, two examples Corrolla used to belittle blacks, have one thing in common --- they both received reparations for the social atrocities committed against their group.

so did american indians, but it hasn't exactly made them economically successful. there's a cultural and social element that impacts how successful a minority group becomes.

even if blacks had received reparations the system is still slanted against us. not only that, but i can almost guarantee if blacks had received reparations it would have impacted civil rights accomplishments and other minority programs negatively, at the very least delaying them significantly.

it annoys the sh1t out of me for other races (especially white people) to talk about what's wrong with minority communities. mainly because whites were directly responsible for the root of most problems here in the us. they should spend more time talking about what they can do to help fix the problems they started.

 

[theworldismine13]

Wtf is so important about having a checking account? Banks ain't looking out for nikkas, money is money wether it's under your mattress or in an account. Now if nikkas said savings account that's a whole other problem. (I had one since I was 16 before nikkas start coming at me in that manner)

I don't know where Gavin got the number from, I've never heard that particular number of 50% but lack of banking is a very serious issue in the black community and im pretty sure he is talking about bank accounts which include savings and checking

And it does matter if you have a bank account , not having a bank account is a sign of financial illiteracy, and sorry but if you think that putting hour money under a mattress is the same as a savings account you are financially illiterate and there is something wrong with you

Having access to banking services and saving your money in a bank is the foundation of a prosperous community, that is why it's important

 

[boskey]

I used to be a big fan of Adam Carolla since LoveLine and I think he's actually hilarious a lot of the time. But I had to stop listening to his show over a year ago when he switched from comedian to overtly racist radio host (The Obama Effect driving yet another cac insane).

He's always been an idiot but like most conservatives he started believing that his narrow observations were facts. And he never debates with anyone with even any basic knowledge of history so I couldn't stand listening to that....

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Why are these demonic talk show hosts always talking about minority groups and never addressing poverty inequality in their own communities.

Its so demonic, friends.

 

[The Real]

It reminds me of something interesting @The Real mentioned once, is that if you group low income minorities as a demographic the statistics in general are very different from what you'd expect in a median sense. Saying "let's make sure poor people have a bank account" is the kinda thing we talk about with subsistence wage earners in developing countries.

I can't find his post but it was something related to aids, poverty and other factors

I can't find the post, either, but yeah, it was about how some of the basic stats for low-income minority groups, especially Black people, but even Appalachian white communities, resembles those in developing countries- HIV rate, child mortality, and so on. This bank talk is crazy to hear, in that regard, but it's not unimportant, either. They should try some of these modified microcredit loans in the hood like they do in Bangladesh and elsewhere, too.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

some people are lying low though trying to avoid child support and other claims

but certainly if we're talking 50% there's a lot of people just being lazy/disorganized

with hispanics I was thinking the immigration status might be an issue but just realized as long as you have photo ID banks don't care what your residence status is

The people I know that are anti bank transactions are that way because they don't trust the banks holding their money. They don't trust those type of institutions. Do I agree, nah. But I always equate the situation to old black people not wanting to take pills because they don't trust them.

Its a social construct.

Misinformation runs deep in every vein of society.

 

[Type Username Here]

The Japanese and Jews, two examples Corrolla used to belittle blacks, have one thing in common --- they both received reparations for the social atrocities committed against their group.

So did the Native Americans, and they are worse off than even blacks in a general sense. Their suicide and alcoholism rates are astronomically high.

 

[Brown_Pride]

Carolla is an idiot in general, and not even remotely funny. I don't know how he got a career.

this right here should be enough to convince any atheist that God exists. Clearly he sold his soul to the devil.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

So did the Native Americans, and they are worse off than even blacks in a general sense. Their suicide and alcoholism rates are astronomically high.

Do you know what 40 acres and a mule is equivalent today in current dollars? I'd take my chances with my ancestors receiving that as compensation for slavery, instead of Jim Crow and other forms of brutal institutional, economic, and social discrimination as the only forms of reward.

I dont know why people are throwing the Native American experience in my face, as if thats some sort of legit rebuttal. Why do you have such a hard time believing that Blacks could reasonably replicate the success of Jews and the Japanese? The NA population is next to zero percentage wise, and they obviously have a very unique history when it comes to treatment and the collective psychology in its aftermath. The fact of the matter is that we all know the strong correlation between a priori wealth, and future success.

 

[Type Username Here]

Do you know what 40 acres and a mule is equivalent today in current dollars? I'd take my chances with my ancestors receiving that as compensation for slavery, instead of Jim Crow and other forms of brutal institutional, economic, and social discrimination as the only forms of reward.

I dont know why people are throwing the Native American experience in my face, as if thats some sort of legit rebuttal. Why do you have such a hard time believing that Blacks could reasonably replicate the success of Jews and the Japanese? The NA population is next to zero, and they obviously have a very unique history when it comes to treatment and the collective psychology in its aftermath. The fact of the matter is that we all know the strong correlation between a priori wealth, and future success.

You pointed towards Jews and Asians receiving compensation as a form of fix it all method. I brought up the facts that the Natives have received compensation and continue to receive compensation but they are still in a state of disarray, and doing a lot worse than Blacks in several categories. What does that imply?

Consider that only the Japense received compensation, not Indians, Chinese, etc.. Consider that most of Jewish compensation happened to be exclusively given to European Jews by European governments.

Your entire argument is hogwash.

 

[Brown_Pride]

So did the Native Americans, and they are worse off than even blacks in a general sense. Their suicide and alcoholism rates are astronomically high.

yeah but honestly they got shyt on more than any other group in America by a hair (yeah i said it). They got some godo perks, but overall their "reservations" amounted to not much more than open air concentration camps. Without casino many indian reservations and nations would be completely fuked.