ACCORDING TO 17TH CENTURY CAC ARTWORK, INDIANS IN THE AMERICAS LOOKED LIKE THIS??

[Donny]

Haven't looked extensively into this but it would seem the dark skinned people in Ancient America would be of Aboriginal/Melenesian in origin rather than African but I really gotta read up more though the Olmec heads have really strong African features so idk if I can buy that completely

 

[fairfax12]

Haven't looked extensively into this but it would seem the dark skinned people in Ancient America would be of Aboriginal/Melenesian in origin rather than African but I really gotta read up more though the Olmec heads have really strong African features so idk if I can buy that completely

Polynesians have broad noses and thick lips too. The Olmecs weren't black breh. I think sometimes as black people (especially AA's) we tend to conflate ethnicity/race/nationality with other cultures from the past who we are in awe of. We are a people who don't concretely know (or respect) our real West African homeland. There's a whole thread active rn about Nigerians who believe they are True Israelites rather than native to the soil they live on.

 

[fairfax12]

 

[Donny]

Polynesians have broad noses and thick lips too. The Olmecs weren't black breh. I think sometimes as black people (especially AA's) we tend to conflate ethnicity/race/nationality with other cultures from the past who we are in awe of. We are a people who don't concretely know (or respect) our real West African homeland. There's a whole thread active rn about Nigerians who believe they are True Israelites rather than native to the soil they live on.

A lot of west African history is swept under the rug I'm first generation Jamaican and my grandmother on my mom's side is Maroon but I still couldn't tell you what west African country my family originates from without family structure you're cultural identity is lost to where it's hard to identify with any except what you know modern day that's why a lot of black people look at Africa and don't make the connection as homeland we taking pride in American cities, blocks, and streets.

 

[fairfax12]

A lot of west African history is swept under the rug I'm first generation Jamaican and my grandmother on my mom's side is Maroon but I still couldn't tell you what west African country my family originates from without family structure you're cultural identity is lost to where it's hard to identify with any except what you know modern day that's why a lot of black people look at Africa and don't make the connection as homeland we taking pride in American cities, blocks, and streets.

I mean the cultural thread has never really been severed for blacks in America. It's really significant when scientists find old African instruments near early American slave ports or early church hymns because it really proves that we have already endured as people and never forgot where we came from instinctively. You can go to any house party on the weekend and find evidence of W.African dance and song. You can go to any club in Nigeria on the weekend and watch them listen and dance to music that sounds like dancehall and rap. Southern & Caribbean food is pretty closely related to W.African cuisine (fried fish, rice, yams). The diaspora is very large and alive.

The Caribbean especially has enough stories and avenues to learn than you could have in a lifetime. You like learning about Maroons? Check out the Garifuna of Belize. Or escaped slaves in the US like the Great Dismal Swamp near VA.

Jamaican here too. Mom's side is from Brownstown.

 

[Houston911]

great thread

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Y'all really need to stop this nonsense.

Africans were NOT in the Americas before Columbus or the Asians that crossed the Bering Strait to settle the Americas.....​

DNA From 12,000-Year-Old Skeleton Helps Answer the Question: Who Were the First Americans? | Science | Smithsonian​

Some 12,000 years ago, a teenage girl took a walk in what’s now the Yucatan Peninsula and fell 190 feet into a deep pit, breaking her pelvis and likely killing her instantly. Over time, the pit—part of an elaborate limestone cave system—became a watery grave as the most recent ice age ended, glaciers melted and sea levels rose.

In 2007, cave divers happened upon her remarkably preserved remains, which form the oldest, most complete and genetically intact human skeleton in the New World. Her bones, according to new research published in Science, hold the key to a question that has long plagued scientists: Who were the first Americans?

Naia proves that migrations from Beringia made it to southern Mexico. As for why Naia’s skull is so different from modern Native Americans, co- author Deborah Bolnick, assistant professor of anthropology at the University of Texas at Austin has an explanation: “The physical differences between Paleoamericans and Native Americans today are more likely due to changes that occurred in Beringia and the Americas over the last 9,000 years.” Bolnick’s lab was one of the three to confirm the mtDNA findings.

Beringia - Wikipedia

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To date, there has been no evidence that Africans settled in ANY part of the Americas prior to the people that came from East Asia aside from pure speculation based on half-baked conspiracy theories like this one..........

https://www.lahc.edu/studentservices/aso/bsu/knowyourhistory/10PiecesofEvidenceThatProve.pdf

We don't need to claim any lands other than those we originally came from.

Native Americans were descended from Asians.....not Africans.​

 

[thekyuke]

Polynesians have broad noses and thick lips too. The Olmecs weren't black breh.

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DID YOU ACTUALLY JUST SAY THAT!? They've been proven African linguistically,script and craniofacially! Ideally,people would refrain from pasting til they have at least a minimum of knowledge

 

[fairfax12]

DID YOU ACTUALLY JUST SAY THAT!? They've been proven African linguistically,script and craniofacially! Ideally,people would refrain from pasting til they have at least a minimum of knowledge

Nah breh none of that has been proven. Craniologically? LOL. Did they even have a written language?
Everything I learned about the Olmecs says they eventually merged with newer groups like Incas and Mayans, which is why Olmec style of art can be found in the heart of Mexico.

I'm never gonna sit here and claim another culture. Especially a culture that's been effectively dead for thousands of years. them nikkas can't defend themselves or their culture.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

DID YOU ACTUALLY JUST SAY THAT!? They've been proven African linguistically,script and craniofacially! Ideally,people would refrain from pasting til they have at least a minimum of knowledge

Utter and complete nonsense, breh. The Olmecs are not descended from Africans at all.

If you believe otherwise and use the Olmec statues to back up that claim based on their 'negroid' features, then you should also believe Irish people are originally from Africa......

Ivan Van Sertima was full of shyt.

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[fairfax12]

It is WILD to me that any black person would ever bring craniums up regarding human physiology or ethnicity. Knowing ho wthat shyt was used against us smh.
Another reason y'all gotta let these 500 viewer YouTube/Blogs go. Just because someone calls themselves a Doctor or uses pithy language doesn't mean they're really looking to educate.

Utter and complete nonsense, breh. The Olmecs are not descended from Africans at all.

If you believe otherwise and use the Olmec statues to back up that claim based on their 'negroid' features, then you should also believe Irish people are originally from Africa......

Ivan Van Sertima was full of shyt.

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[Free White & 21]

Not in the true sense of the word but then again it rarely ever is. More time 'Afrocentric' history is black Americans larping as Jews and Native Americans.

@BmoreGorilla

 

[egg]

Y'all really need to stop this nonsense.

Africans were NOT in the Americas before Columbus or the Asians that crossed the Bering Strait to settle the Americas.....​

DNA From 12,000-Year-Old Skeleton Helps Answer the Question: Who Were the First Americans? | Science | Smithsonian​

Beringia - Wikipedia

​

To date, there has been no evidence that Africans settled in ANY part of the Americas prior to the people that came from East Asia aside from pure speculation based on half-baked conspiracy theories like this one..........

https://www.lahc.edu/studentservices/aso/bsu/knowyourhistory/10PiecesofEvidenceThatProve.pdf

We don't need to claim any lands other than those we originally came from.

Native Americans were descended from Asians.....not Africans.​

The Siberians who crossed the Bering Strait were black men

 

[fairfax12]

The Siberians who crossed the Bering Strait were black men

they were dark skinned and maybe wooly haired sure. but blackness is a very specific idea that really only means something to us as ancestors of enslaved ppl. polynesians can pass for black sometimes too.

 

[thekyuke]

It is WILD to me that any black person would ever bring craniums up regarding human physiology or ethnicity. Knowing ho wthat shyt was used against us smh.
Another reason y'all gotta let these 500 viewer YouTube/Blogs go. Just because someone calls themselves a Doctor or uses pithy language doesn't mean they're really looking to educate.

Kneee-grow! Why is it those who don't know always talk!? You're confusing phrenology with craniometrics,an important tool for forensic anthropologists. Its as important as dental morphology is iding race.

The metric assessment of cranial and postcranial morphological variation has a deep history within physical anthropology research precisely because past population history, such as gene flow and genetic drift, may be reflected in these measurements.

Craniometrics | Osteoware

Phrenology,which you confuse with the valid science of craniomterics is pseudoscientific bs.

For example, a prominent protuberance in the forehead at the position attributed to the organ of Benevolence was meant to indicate that the individual had a "well developed" organ of Benevolence and would therefore be expected to exhibit benevolent behaviour.
However, like so many popular sciences, Gall and the phrenologists sought only confirmations for their hypotheses and did not apply the same standard to contradictory evidence.
http://www.historyofphrenology.org.uk/overview.htm
History of Phrenology on the Web

PLS,GO READ A BOOK!