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I wish Floyd never hired him back
I wish Floyd never hired him back
#AboutBillions/#SmokeSquad Presents "July Fukkery Never Ends": Adrien Broner vs Mikey Garcia on 7/29
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bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Broner's failure is a perfect example of why you must be a complete fighter. Broner was hoping he could mid range counter punch to victory. But it wasnt working and wasnt going to work. Why,because Mikey is a superior boxer. Throws his punches correctly accurately and with bad intentions all while being defensively responsible. And last night in particular,he was really on point. Broner was not going to outbox him.
Ward has similar problems in the first half of Ward Kovalev 1. He couldnt out box KKK from mid/longe range. Kov was way too on point.
Kov's no mikey,but still. What ward did was say fukk all that,i'm just gonna go take your body and get head shots whenever i catch you slipping,but i'm prioritizing the body. It worked good in the second half and even better in the 2ND FIGHT.
Broner should have been in Mikey's chest after say 3 rounds,he should of saw what it was,been in his chest,making him uncomfortable and going at his body,and hoped the head shots would open. But he wouldnt do it and got his ass beat. Not saying he would have won,but he could of made it more interesting instead of accepting failure. (i stopped watching in the 8th though)
Ward has similar problems in the first half of Ward Kovalev 1. He couldnt out box KKK from mid/longe range. Kov was way too on point.
Kov's no mikey,but still. What ward did was say fukk all that,i'm just gonna go take your body and get head shots whenever i catch you slipping,but i'm prioritizing the body. It worked good in the second half and even better in the 2ND FIGHT.
Broner should have been in Mikey's chest after say 3 rounds,he should of saw what it was,been in his chest,making him uncomfortable and going at his body,and hoped the head shots would open. But he wouldnt do it and got his ass beat. Not saying he would have won,but he could of made it more interesting instead of accepting failure. (i stopped watching in the 8th though)
plenty here are downplaying broner but i see it as Garcia being a damn elite boxer, give props to Mikey than shytting broner for a starter!
I saw a YouTube link say post fight interview of Garcia's dominating victory over Broner..he got beat down that bad?!
Exactly.
Mikey was much better defensively than I thought he was previously too. He slipped tons of punches and had AB hitting air
not sure what he meant by the "old money may"? does he mean the pre-30 Mayweather? because he let his hands go in abundance, he was a great offensive fighter. the one that beat Chicanito? or that went in the trenches against Castillo? the one that embarrassed Corrales?
anyway. Broner looked awful last night. he doesnt have the offensive skill to beat any top level fighter. his defense is really good but as I said a few weeks ago....he cant do both at the same time. when you punch at him he doesnt return fire. I dont know who keeps thinking he is some great counter puncher. he looks a lot like Gatti out there on defense when he is flat footed but he doesnt have offensive fluidity.
when he moves, he is excellent defensively. but when he moves he doesnt do shyt on offense. he is like the version of Peterson that fought Swift.
not sure why Broner took this fight. he made 1 mil against Granados. he made the same against Mikey. shouldve never turned down Manny fight and shouldve pushed for fight with Swift or Khan. he'd have a better chance of beating them than Mikey. not that Mikey is better, but Khan would probably fukk Broner up but Broner could equally fukk Khan up do to his power and Khan's chin. He could beat Swift because Danny wont outwork him necessarily and the movement would be a problem. Swift is stronger and a more balanced fighter and better boxer than Broner though.
Mikey knew all he had to do was keep his activity up and there wouldnt be shyt Broner could do. Mikey is asking for trouble if he wants any parts of Crawford though. If he goes up to 147, Spence would kill his ass.
Broner showed you the last 3 rounds he had the tools to compete and win this fight.
He showed you for 12 rounds mentally he doesn't have the hunger to do what it takes to win.
He is such a strange fighter because he is so mentally weak, but not in the sense like Zab where he puts himself in harms way but that he simply doesn't even try
He showed you for 12 rounds mentally he doesn't have the hunger to do what it takes to win.
He is such a strange fighter because he is so mentally weak, but not in the sense like Zab where he puts himself in harms way but that he simply doesn't even try
BlackManLiveFromLondon
New God
Basically - Broner has little to no inside game.
Yes Ward had similar problems he tried to outbox on the outside, once he realised that wasn't gonna work he made the fight ugly and went inside fighting
Thats exactly what Broner should have done, make the fight ugly and rough
But it looks like these days hes scared of getting hit
BlackManLiveFromLondon
New God
This is another major problem Adrien Broner has,comes into a fight very very late
Hes the opposite of the front runner Zab Judah
Exactly.
Mikey was much better defensively than I thought he was previously too. He slipped tons of punches and had AB hitting air
if yall think he is great I wont argue with you. but I have never been truly impressed with Mikey. he is solid. he is near perfect technically but his style is tailor made for a good boxer with speed or someone who uses angles to punch or goes to the body effectively. I think him and Lamont Peterson would be entertaining. as far as him being elite? he aint trying to see Crawford first off
he could beat Manny, but it would be tough. he wouldve gotten killed by Manny a few years ago. ironically, he reminds me somewhat of JMM. I'd like to see those two fight. He would take JMM now but prime I dont think he is as good as JMM was. He definitely aint ready for someone like Spence or Thurman
But Broner has an inside game, at 130 and 135 he was excellent on the inside and he would make it a point to work the body. After moving up he stopped focusing on working the body and fighting on the inside. I have no idea why, hell even last night when he was on the inside and worked he was very successful, but he choose not to do so the majority of the fight, he would get inside and then hop out.Basically - Broner has little to no inside game.
Yes Ward had similar problems he tried to outbox on the outside, once he realised that wasn't gonna work he made the fight ugly and went inside fighting
Thats exactly what Broner should have done, make the fight ugly and rough
But it looks like these days hes scared of getting hit
Basically - Broner has little to no inside game.
Yes Ward had similar problems he tried to outbox on the outside, once he realised that wasn't gonna work he made the fight ugly and went inside fighting
Thats exactly what Broner should have done, make the fight ugly and rough
But it looks like these days hes scared of getting hit
that's actually the thing he does most effectively.
he tries to fight like Floyd sometimes but he doesnt have the head movement or the jab. then he resorts back to his original style. high guard. but he has no authoritative jab or counters. if Broner COULD fight like Jermall does, he'd be more effective. Jermall is a better boxer. strong jab, punches from angles. excellent counter weapons.
Black Miller
All Star
i was scrambling to get back to catch the fight- saw it from the end of round 5 on. honestly this is one of the most head scratching performances i seen. first, i'm gonna give credit to mikey for winning, but broner just seemed like he didn't wanna engage him at all. like even if the power was too much to handle, ab didn't even try. i was one who thinks broner needs a new trainer, but stafford was telling dude to get busy and just flat out wouldn't.
the sad thing is the few times, he got active- he did well enough to keep mikey at bay and at least make him think or fall back. broner could have at least tried to go to the body more often, i saw him rip mikey with a few good ones there and they was saying mikey was having weight issues. the maidana loss he kept coming even after the knockdowns, porter was moreso that non stop swarming him. but this one, he just seemed unwilling to get down and work for this one.
it's wild cause he did dig down vs granados who was attacking him more and even though it was close that fight, he at least could of been proud of his effort. i had granados winning but ab did enough where if he got the decision i wasn't mad at it. he even fought good on the inside vs him.
mikey is technically sound and a good fighter, but i don't think he'd beat crawford, craw just got a nasty streak that where he if he get caught he returning and then some. i do think mikey can probably beat loma though, i think he's too big and maybe technical enough to keep up and outwork him. was impressed with charlo at 160 even though his comp really wasn't that great. good start for him there.
the sad thing is the few times, he got active- he did well enough to keep mikey at bay and at least make him think or fall back. broner could have at least tried to go to the body more often, i saw him rip mikey with a few good ones there and they was saying mikey was having weight issues. the maidana loss he kept coming even after the knockdowns, porter was moreso that non stop swarming him. but this one, he just seemed unwilling to get down and work for this one.
it's wild cause he did dig down vs granados who was attacking him more and even though it was close that fight, he at least could of been proud of his effort. i had granados winning but ab did enough where if he got the decision i wasn't mad at it. he even fought good on the inside vs him.
mikey is technically sound and a good fighter, but i don't think he'd beat crawford, craw just got a nasty streak that where he if he get caught he returning and then some. i do think mikey can probably beat loma though, i think he's too big and maybe technical enough to keep up and outwork him. was impressed with charlo at 160 even though his comp really wasn't that great. good start for him there.