Aaron Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe (Update: Found guilty of first degree murder)

[LeflaurLeflahEshkoshka]

Probably already been said on here, but I'm starting to think there is actually a good chance he could walk on the murder charge.

1. DA is relying on word of an ex-con with a history of drug problems, who also claims he was asleep while the actual murder happened and he doesn't know who actually pulled the trigger. (Why was he even there in the first place then if he served no purpose?)

2. No murder weapon, at least not yet

3. Lots of circumstantial evidence, like that fuzzy picture with him allegedly holding a gun. Also a lot of hearsay too.

If the lawyer is worth anything and the jury isn't already biased then there is a chance he might get off. The weapon charges are going to stick though.

 

[Lord Beasley]

someone need to take that picture down. i do not know who that is but
nikkas tryna get us clapped up

 

[MikelArteta]

Probably already been said on here, but I'm starting to think there is actually a good chance he could walk on the murder charge.

1. DA is relying on word of an ex-con with a history of drug problems, who also claims he was asleep while the actual murder happened and he doesn't know who actually pulled the trigger. (Why was he even there in the first place then if he served no purpose?)

2. No murder weapon, at least not yet

3. Lots of circumstantial evidence, like that fuzzy picture with him allegedly holding a gun. Also a lot of hearsay too.

If the lawyer is worth anything and the jury isn't already biased then there is a chance he might get off. The weapon charges are going to stick though.

yeah i wouldnt be shocked

i remember how everyoen convicted kobe and michael jackson of their crimes in the public

 

[Ayo]

Probably already been said on here, but I'm starting to think there is actually a good chance he could walk on the murder charge.

1. DA is relying on word of an ex-con with a history of drug problems, who also claims he was asleep while the actual murder happened and he doesn't know who actually pulled the trigger. (Why was he even there in the first place then if he served no purpose?)

2. No murder weapon, at least not yet

3. Lots of circumstantial evidence, like that fuzzy picture with him allegedly holding a gun. Also a lot of hearsay too.

If the lawyer is worth anything and the jury isn't already biased then there is a chance he might get off. The weapon charges are going to stick though.

4 guys get into a car with guns. 3 come back. Do the math.

If you cant....Any reasonable jury will do the math for you.

I can't understand the whole "circumstancial evidence" bullshyt that everyone harps on. Every case that goes to trial is based 99.99999% on circumstantial evidence. Otherwise the defendant would be copping a plea. Non circumstantial evidence (direct) is eye witness testimony. That's it. How often does that happen?

The OJ Dream Team is the one who introduced circumstantial evidence as being a bad thing.


Text messages, gun powder residue on bed sheets, security footage with guns, cell tower pings, receipts, ammo, and the list goes on.

Stop looking at just one or two pieces. Look at all of the hundreds of pieces. This case is OVERWHELMING.

 

[Ayo]

yeah i wouldnt be shocked

i remember how everyoen convicted kobe and michael jackson of their crimes in the public

MJ would have surely been found guilty eventually. He paid people off. He only beat that one case because the victims family was shown to be money hungry extortionists.

Kobe raped the girl. Put it in her ass. Paid her to go away and then apologized to the world.

Bad examples. Maybe OJ would be a better one. Aaron Hernandez ain't no OJ and his Back Bay lawyers ain't no Dream Team and Attleboro has a decent sized population of Hispanics (little to no black people, mostly white trash, Hernandez lived in the nice part) but lets see how many make it to the jury.

 

[LeflaurLeflahEshkoshka]

4 guys get into a car with guns. 3 come back. Do the math.

If you cant....Any reasonable jury will do the math for you.

I can't understand the whole "circumstancial evidence" bullshyt that everyone harps on. Every case that goes to trial is based 99.99999% on circumstantial evidence. Otherwise the defendant would be copping a plea. Non circumstantial evidence (direct) is eye witness testimony. That's it. How often does that happen?

The OJ Dream Team is the one who introduced circumstantial evidence as being a bad thing.


Text messages, gun powder residue on bed sheets, security footage with guns, cell tower pings, receipts, ammo, and the list goes on.

Stop looking at just one or two pieces. Look at all of the hundreds of pieces. This case is OVERWHELMING.

Why don't you look at the charges, evidence, and understand reasonable doubt before you comment. It comes down to did he pull the trigger. He is the only one of the three in the case facing the 1st degree murder charge as well as weapon charges. The other two are facing accessory to murder charges and weapons charges. They don't have concrete evidence on exactly who pulled the trigger and they don't have a murder weapon. His boy who is talking was asleep in the car at the time and can't confirm AH pulled the trigger, and the other guy isn't talking. That's reasonable doubt right there. You need to have a burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt to convict.

The DA is banking his whole case on that not only did AH orchestrate the whole thing, but he PULLED the trigger, hence the 1st degree murder charge. If the jury feels that there is not enough evidence to suggest that AH pulled the trigger and was only present, they're not gonna convict him of 1st degree murder - which is what he is charged with, he isn't charged with being an accessory to murder. All those little pieces of evidence don't mean he PULLED the trigger. Destroying the cameras only means he tampered with a police investigation. And text messages can be disputed and argued by any lawyer.

And why you bringing up OJ like that's the only murder case in the world. People get off on technicalities/lack of evidence all the time.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Probably already been said on here, but I'm starting to think there is actually a good chance he could walk on the murder charge.

1. DA is relying on word of an ex-con with a history of drug problems, who also claims he was asleep while the actual murder happened and he doesn't know who actually pulled the trigger. (Why was he even there in the first place then if he served no purpose?)

2. No murder weapon, at least not yet

3. Lots of circumstantial evidence, like that fuzzy picture with him allegedly holding a gun. Also a lot of hearsay too.

If the lawyer is worth anything and the jury isn't already biased then there is a chance he might get off. The weapon charges are going to stick though.

I was telling people this from jump. Its idiots like Last Emp that make a complete mockery of the system with quick leaps of judgement. The burden of proof is on the prosecution and if they cant prove without any reasonable doubt that he did it, dude should walk on those murder charges. This is the way the system is set up. You just cant be like, "oh look at all the circumstancial evidence, its no coincidence, he did it!"..No. IT comes down to complete technicality, and this is for every case. The system was set up like this to prevent innocent folk from being locked up, which still happens to this day cause jury members cant get passed the whole "common sense said he did it" part of it. Without a murder weapon, its gonna be awfully tough for the prosecution to prove A Hernandez pulled the trigger. But, there will be jury members that dont understand the reasonable doubt thing, like there is in alot of cases, and that could lead to him being convicted regardless, which is wack. If there is any doubt that Hernandez did it, he should walk on that charge period. Of course just going by the reasonable doubt system.

 

[Brady-Carter]

Hernadnez’s coustin, Tanya Cummings-Singelton — has been jailed for contempt of court. According to the Hartford Courant, Cummings-Singleton refused to testify before the grand jury. She has been held behind bars since August 1.

Prosecutors believe Cummings-Singleton purchased a bus ticket for Ernest Wallace, who is charged with being an accessory after the fact. Carloz Ortiz reportedly told police that he discussed the murder of Lloyd with Cummings-Singleton.

Her husband, Thaddeus Singleton, died in a car accident in late June. She previously was married to Hernandez’s stepfather, Jeff Cummings.

Apart from her indefinite incarceration for refusing to cooperate with the grand jury, Cummings-Singleton becomes an even bigger target for potential prosecution under theories like obstruction of justice. The phone, for example, that Wallace allegedly used to communicate with Hernandez and Lloyd was registered to Cummings-Singleton. It has not been located by authorities.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/09/hernandezs-cousin-jailed-for-refusal-to-testify/

 

[Brozay]

yeah i wouldnt be shocked

i remember how everyoen convicted kobe and michael jackson of their crimes in the public

i mean...

 

[Sam Peel]

 

[Kid Coli]

If homie walks then it is no wonder so many murders / crimes go unsolved

how much freaking evidence to people need to get convicted nowadays breh?

 

[FaTaL]

If homie walks then it is no wonder so many murders / crimes go unsolved

how much freaking evidence to people need to get convicted nowadays breh?

seriously they got pictures of his vechicle going to the place where the dude got capped, obviously he was there

 

[BigSteve]

If homie walks then it is no wonder so many murders / crimes go unsolved

how much freaking evidence to people need to get convicted nowadays breh?

crazy

 

[King P]

seriously they got pictures of his vechicle going to the place where the dude got capped, obviously he was there

Yea the problem is that he's not being charged with accessory. He's being charged with 1st Degree Murder. Which means that they have to prove that he was not only there, but pulled the trigger as well.

So far, they do not have such evidence.

 

[Jax]

Probably already been said on here, but I'm starting to think there is actually a good chance he could walk on the murder charge.

1. DA is relying on word of an ex-con with a history of drug problems, who also claims he was asleep while the actual murder happened and he doesn't know who actually pulled the trigger. (Why was he even there in the first place then if he served no purpose?)

2. No murder weapon, at least not yet

3. Lots of circumstantial evidence, like that fuzzy picture with him allegedly holding a gun. Also a lot of hearsay too.

If the lawyer is worth anything and the jury isn't already biased then there is a chance he might get off. The weapon charges are going to stick though.

Could he get got on conspiracy and obstruction charges? How much could he get?