AA goes halfway across the world to tell Egyptian they not real Egyptians

[MajorVitaman]

Nah not slaves but they were held captives on some war ish as u can see from that picture. But this was also the case with the Semitic Hyksos. Egyptians were on that NATIONALIST sh!t as they banged on the lighter skinned Hyksos to the North of them and the darker skinned Nubians to the south of them.

I'm just pointing out how the Kemitic/Egyptians and Kushyte/Nubian were at odds...it wasn't all roses and flowers.

Of course it wasn't roses & flowers. Nobody is claiming that. But with the Hyskos that was a specific enemy and a known time when they enslaved native Kemites. The Kemites & Kushytes were on some older bro younger bro shyt where they might have a Lil beef but they knew at the end of the day they were the same people.

You think Black/African people can be united?

We have too many divisions for that to happen.

Fukk all that "we are the world talk", nygga do you even know who your neighbours are? have you even locked arms and built with like minded brothas in the city you live in? NO? then cut all this international talk

Yes I do, if you take into account all of world history even with the last 2,348 years of division black people world wide have been united for longer than we've been divided. The only reason we're so divided right Now is 100% due to foreign invasions, philosophies & ideologies. If Africans knew their history none of these divisive dogmatic ideologies would hold weight.

Lol I make as much connections as possible while I can locally & in some cases internationally. I know plenty of Ethiopian Horners who aren't on that goofy shyt that Horner nikka in here is talkin. I know plenty of Nigerians who aren't on that white Jesus c00n shyt. I know a handful of black Brazilians who understand we're all one people and we're in this together.

Divide and conquer is real and y'all don't realize that's the only reason white folks have so much power to this day.

 

[5star]

Lol there is plenty of documented evidence of middle eastern people migrating and settling in Egypt in the dynastic period. No one is arguing it became multi-ethnic, but it was originally an African state breh.

Do you think it is a mere coincidence that Egyptian civilisation was founded in the most southern part of the country, in damn near Sudan? If the founders came from the Middle East, then logically, Egyptian civilisation would have been founded in northern Egypt, around the delta.

I'm pretty sure "DNA studies" have shown even mummy to be genetically African too

@GetInTheTruck






#blackexcellence

 

[Dzali OG]

Well for one, there's only three classifications of modern man: negroid, caucasian, and mongloid.

Everything else is a mulatto of these mixing. East Africans claiming they're not the same as west Africans...cool...because you have more recent mixing is why.

An Arab...nothing but mixing between black and red, or white and red.

nikkas have been slangin dikk a looooongggggg time...lol...hell yeah there's mulatto everywhere. As we migrated out from Africa we encountered those white and red women and we slang dikk all the way too Australia.

Concerning the accomplishments of Egypt still around such as the great pyramid and sphinx...none of US in the sense we recognize as us did that. All we did was occupy structures that had been there for a million years! That stuff was built by original man we are poor copies of millions of years ago. Men who were intergalactic....MILLIONS of years ago.

Information a few cacs know, and went in and stole the little technology that was left there. How they conquered this planet and keep their foot in our ass.

 

[Nomad1]

nikkas can talk about Egypt if they feel like it. fukk out of here.

By the way, Tupac does not look somalian.

 

[art_vandelay]

The country is in the midst of chaos and he thinks this is what's on the average locals mind.
Egyptians do have some mixture of Arab and subsaharan DNA, the latest study put outside mixture accounting for less than 10% mixture, with Coptics having the least mixture and of course Nubians have significant sub Saharan DNA.
Yes, they call themselves Arabs, but that's a cultural identity rather than hereditity.
It's almost impossible to know the race of the ancient Egyptians..of course the old mummies are hard to test because of their conditions.
In my personal opinion, I think the Egyptians you see now are the same as the ancients. Also, were talking about kingdoms that existed 6-7,000 years ago and lasted for 3,000+. Does everyone really think they can point at a few pictures and be an expert? I mean 3,000+ years of different dynasties, invasions, migration!
At the end of the day, if you want the ancient Egyptians to be black, you can be right because there we're times that Nubians ruled the country and you're bound to find evidence of black looking statues or African types on the walls of tombs. If you want then to be Caucasian, you're right too, because you can find evidence in how they generally distingushed themselves from Nubians and the Caucasian or at least non black selection of everyday ancients. Even though Afrocebtrists insist of calling the place Kemet, the word has nothing to do with people, only the color of the soil.
I just can't get over how long their history is and also, keep in mind that Egyptologist have only scratched the surface on ancient Egypt. They have basically built the story of ancient Egypt on literal scraps of information. At the most 30% of ancient Egypt has been discovered.

One question I've always wondered is, why don't actual Egyptians get to have any say about who they are or were? Why is it up to us westerners to define them with our antiquated definitions of race? There are prominant schools of Egyptology, right inside Egypt that are dedicated to their own history. I don't know why it's our fight to be honest. That guy is wasting his time basing his esteem that much on Ancient Egypt that he's made a fool of himself.

 

[Poitier]

the latest study put outside mixture accounting for less than 10% mixture, with Coptics having the least mixture and of course Nubians have significant sub Saharan DNA.

If you want then to be Caucasian, you're right too, because you can find evidence in how they generally distingushed themselves from Nubians and the Caucasian or at least non black selection of everyday ancients.

receipts? neither of these are true.

 

[Poitier]

Genetic analysis of modern Egyptians reveals that they have paternal lineages common to indigenous North-East African populations primarily and to Near Eastern peoples to a lesser extent—these lineages would have spread during the Neolithic and were maintained by thepredynastic period.[97][98] University of Chicago Egyptologist Frank Yurco suggested a historical and regional continuity, saying:

"Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times... [the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990; Brace et al., this volume)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East Africa, Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic (i.e. Nile River) continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions (Trigger 1978; Bard, Snowden, this volume). Language research suggests that this Saharan-Nilotic population became speakers of the Afro-Asiatic languages... Semitic was evidently spoken by Saharans who crossed the Red Sea into Arabia and became ancestors of the Semitic speakers there, possibly around 7000 BC... In summary we may say that Egypt was a distinct Afro-Asiatic African culture rooted in the Nile Valley and on the Sahara."[99]

Copts and Arabs have no claims to ancient African history: Today's Egyptians not identical to ancients | Egyptsearch Reloaded

 

[MajorVitaman]

The country is in the midst of chaos and he thinks this is what's on the average locals mind.
Egyptians do have some mixture of Arab and subsaharan DNA, the latest study put outside mixture accounting for less than 10% mixture, with Coptics having the least mixture and of course Nubians have significant sub Saharan DNA.
Yes, they call themselves Arabs, but that's a cultural identity rather than hereditity.
It's almost impossible to know the race of the ancient Egyptians..of course the old mummies are hard to test because of their conditions.
In my personal opinion, I think the Egyptians you see now are the same as the ancients. Also, were talking about kingdoms that existed 6-7,000 years ago and lasted for 3,000+. Does everyone really think they can point at a few pictures and be an expert? I mean 3,000+ years of different dynasties, invasions, migration!
At the end of the day, if you want the ancient Egyptians to be black, you can be right because there we're times that Nubians ruled the country and you're bound to find evidence of black looking statues or African types on the walls of tombs. If you want then to be Caucasian, you're right too, because you can find evidence in how they generally distingushed themselves from Nubians and the Caucasian or at least non black selection of everyday ancients. Even though Afrocebtrists insist of calling the place Kemet, the word has nothing to do with people, only the color of the soil.
I just can't get over how long their history is and also, keep in mind that Egyptologist have only scratched the surface on ancient Egypt. They have basically built the story of ancient Egypt on literal scraps of information. At the most 30% of ancient Egypt has been discovered.

One question I've always wondered is, why don't actual Egyptians get to have any say about who they are or were? Why is it up to us westerners to define them with our antiquated definitions of race? There are prominant schools of Egyptology, right inside Egypt that are dedicated to their own history. I don't know why it's our fight to be honest. That guy is wasting his time basing his esteem that much on Ancient Egypt that he's made a fool of himself.

The bold are common lies cac-centrists like to tell about history they had nothing to do with (pre 332BC Africa, pre 1492AD America, pre 1788AD Australia etc)

The blue are common finesses, opinions & words cacs use to deflect, derail & take the conversation away from facts. When you stick to facts you'll easily recognize goofy cac logic

 

[art_vandelay]

receipts? neither of these are true.

An Egyptian, and an Arab | Baher Ibrahim

A Predominantly Neolithic Origin for Y-Chromosomal DNA Variation in North Africa

Y-chromosome analysis in Egypt suggests a genetic regional continuity in Northeastern Africa". Hum Biol74 (5): 645–58. doi:10.1353/hub.2002.0054.PMID12495079.

North African Populations Carry the Signature of Admixture with Neandertals

(28 May 2015). "The genetics of East African populations: a Nilo-Saharan component in the African genetic landscape"(PDF). Scientific Reports5: 9996. (*Coptic population admixture)



Ethiopian, Egyptian Genomes Shed Light on Out-of-Africa Route of Eurasian Ancestorshttps://www.genomeweb.com/sequencing-technology/ethiopian-egyptian-genomes-shed-light-out-africa-route-eurasian-ancestors.

 

[Poitier]

An Egyptian, and an Arab | Baher Ibrahim

This is an editorial, not research.

A Predominantly Neolithic Origin for Y-Chromosomal DNA Variation in North Africa

This does not break down Egypt by Arab, Copt, Nubian, Fula, Beja or Berbers.

Y-chromosome analysis in Egypt suggests a genetic regional continuity in Northeastern Africa". Hum Biol74 (5): 645–58. doi:10.1353/hub.2002.0054.PMID12495079.

This does not break down Egypt by Arab, Copt, Nubian, Fula, Beja or Berbers.

North African Populations Carry the Signature of Admixture with Neandertals

This is about ALL of North Africa, not Egypt

(28 May 2015). "The genetics of East African populations: a Nilo-Saharan component in the African genetic landscape"(PDF). Scientific Reports5: 9996. (*Coptic population admixture)

"Copts are a separated group close to the North-East populations, in a more outlier position: they are the extreme of the northern genetic component."

"Copts, with a strong individual heterogeneity, are more similar to Arabs (FST = 0.019) than to any other East African population. Copts and South-West populations are the most distant populations (FST > 0.1). "

"The Coptic population present in Sudan is an example of a recent migration from Egypt over the past two centuries. "

Ethiopian, Egyptian Genomes Shed Light on Out-of-Africa Route of Eurasian Ancestorshttps://www.genomeweb.com/sequencing-technology/ethiopian-egyptian-genomes-shed-light-out-africa-route-eurasian-ancestors.

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This is about the migration of Dravidian like populations out Africa back into Africa well before dynastic Egypt

 

[art_vandelay]

Genetic analysis of modern Egyptians reveals that they have paternal lineages common to indigenous North-East African populations primarily and to Near Eastern peoples to a lesser extent—these lineages would have spread during the Neolithic and were maintained by thepredynastic period.[97][98] University of Chicago Egyptologist Frank Yurco suggested a historical and regional continuity, saying:

"Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times... [the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990; Brace et al., this volume)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East Africa, Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic (i.e. Nile River) continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions (Trigger 1978; Bard, Snowden, this volume). Language research suggests that this Saharan-Nilotic population became speakers of the Afro-Asiatic languages... Semitic was evidently spoken by Saharans who crossed the Red Sea into Arabia and became ancestors of the Semitic speakers there, possibly around 7000 BC... In summary we may say that Egypt was a distinct Afro-Asiatic African culture rooted in the Nile Valley and on the Sahara."[99]

Copts and Arabs have no claims to ancient African history: Today's Egyptians not identical to ancients | Egyptsearch Reloaded

Egyptsearch reloaded is no academic source of info. It seems like the author piled information together without even knowing the context or meaning of the source. For instance, the first two citations are in opposition with the subsequent paragraph. And the use of Afro Asiatic has me scratching my head because the agro Asiatic language belongs to multiple cultures (I.e. Arabic) .
Also the last source is kind of funny because it comes from Mary Lefkowitz, the author of "Not Out of Africa"...a woman who went out of her way to disprove the Black Athena book because she was in such a knot about it. Using the eurocebtric opinion for an afrocentric layman website? Sorry, but I can't put much stock in that.

 

[Poitier]

@art_vandelay

studies about mass migration INTO Africa before and during dynastic times

african components of copts, arabs and berbers...saying North Africans cluster together is obvious because they are all sea people/arabs/levantines with some african ancestry. what haplogroups are in high frequency?

Copts are Middle Eastern with a little indigenous blood, no different than Black or White Americans saying they are Indian.

the agro Asiatic language belongs to multiple cultures (I.e. Arabic) .

I really can't take you serious. Semitic is the only POSSIBLY non African branch of Afro Asiatic.

 

[MajorVitaman]

Egyptsearch reloaded is no academic source of info. It seems like the author piled information together without even knowing the context or meaning of the source. For instance, the first two citations are in opposition with the subsequent paragraph. And the use of Afro Asiatic has me scratching my head because the agro Asiatic language belongs to multiple cultures (I.e. Arabic) .
Also the last source is kind of funny because it comes from Mary Lefkowitz, the author of "Not Out of Africa"...a woman who went out of her way to disprove the Black Athena book because she was in such a knot about it. Using the eurocebtric opinion for an afrocentric layman website? Sorry, but I can't put much stock in that.

Says the cac mixing opinions with timelineles statements trynna pass it off as fact

 

[Poitier]

Egyptian Copts btw not recent Sudanese converts. The lightskin mothafukkers.

 

[art_vandelay]

The bold are common lies cac-centrists like to tell about history they had nothing to do with (pre 332BC Africa, pre 1492AD America, pre 1788AD Australia etc)

The blue are common finesses, opinions & words cacs use to deflect, derail & take the conversation away from facts. When you stick to facts you'll easily recognize goofy cac logic

You don't think that there is much more to discover about ancient Egypt? New things are being found all the time..I don't see how that's eurocentric, I find it interesting that new things will be discovered.
I'm not finessing anything, AUC is doing great work in the research and discovery of Egyptian history.
I'm not saying that you have to be an Egyptologist to come to your conclusions, that's not my point. The point I was making is that there is a wealth of history there and if you look for evidence of racial characteristics of Egyptians, you will find whatever suits you. We'll just have to agree to disagree.