A woman was drugged and raped at an Atlanta club while on Facebook(Update Williams arrested)

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Brother, taking a person into custody, usually because they have been suspected of committing or planning a crime.
If a dude says I just tried to kill him, they probly gonna come apprehend me...
Especially if he had video of it...
But I'm not a lawyer and I've never studied law so I will concede...
I'm just saying any medical report or rape kit may have not shown anything... if she told the cops specifically what he did... this will be the charge.
If she would have said flat out rape, this would have been the charge...

Ppl get arrested for what u would call "hearsay" all the time bro


We gotta stop acting like surrounding evidence doesnt matter

We gotta agree to disagree on this. You may be stopped by the cops for no real reason at all. This we agree on, but the numbers of people actually sitting in jail for absolutely nothing are very low.

If you're in jail it's for a reason. Whether the cops searched you without probable cause but found some weed or a gun. Or whether you resisted arrest (felony) or ran from the cops (felony) your ass is locked up for a reason.

People aren't sitting in jail for no reason like :yeshrug: then suddenly let go because times up. Theres always a charge, and there has to be a certain amount of evidence to substantiate or validate a charge.

You saying your going to kill someone will get you in cuffs and taken to the police station where they will talk to you. They will find out are you just talking shyt or are you a credible threat to actually kill someone. Did you have a plan that you could carry out or were you just blowing off steam .

If you're not credible you're going home.

If she says she stuck his finger in her booty. Maybe it's the video. Maybe she needed stitches, maybe his fingernail scratched the inside of her booty hole.

But there is something. They don't just "take someone's word" on it.

Just like with domestic violence, it's he said she said but the police can see who has marks and they'll decide which party, if not both parties go to jail.
 

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We gotta agree to disagree on this. You may be stopped by the cops for no real reason at all. This we agree on, but the numbers of people actually sitting in jail for absolutely nothing are very low.

If you're in jail it's for a reason. Whether the cops searched you without probable cause but found some weed or a gun. Or whether you resisted arrest (felony) or ran from the cops (felony) your ass is locked up for a reason.

People aren't sitting in jail for no reason like :yeshrug: then suddenly let go because times up. Theres always a charge, and there has to be a certain amount of evidence to substantiate or validate a charge.

You saying your going to kill someone will get you in cuffs and taken to the police station where they will talk to you. They will find out are you just talking shyt or are you a credible threat to actually kill someone. Did you have a plan that you could carry out or were you just blowing off steam .

If you're not credible you're going home.

If she says she stuck his finger in her booty. Maybe it's the video. Maybe she needed stitches, maybe his fingernail scratched the inside of her booty hole.

But there is something. They don't just "take someone's word" on it.

Just like with domestic violence, it's he said she said but the police can see who has marks and they'll decide which party, if not both parties go to jail.
Yup... we're gonna have to agree to disagree cause my retort would be what about bill cosby...?
 

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So you're saying that a female cant be raped if shes done porn or had a rapper bf or twerks?
Wow bro... u were responding to a post where I clearly say surrounding evidence is important...
Those 2 things individually dnt make her not credible... shyt the whole situation makes her not credible...
The two things about her and him being in porn and him being a rapper... her not going immediately to authorities but going straight to social media... can paint a picture of someone who doing things for attention or some sorta notoriety...
 
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Wow bro... u were responding to a post where I clearly say surrounding evidence is important...
Those 2 things individually dnt make her not credible... shyt the whole situation makes her not credible...
The two things about her and him being in porn and him being a rapper... her not going immediately to authorities but going straight to social media... can paint a picture of someone who doing things for attention or some sorta notoriety...
How is the bold relevant to what transpired at Opera on the night in question?

What's the context that you're talking about?

And once again, why would you have a female like this around you in the first place?

Why are you allowing her in your space to possibly jam you up?
 

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How is the bold relevant to what transpired at Opera on the night in question?

What's the context that you're talking about?

And once again, why would you have a female like this around you in the first place?

Why are you allowing her in your space to possibly jam you up?
Because that nikka is clearly retarded did you see his mugshot :mjlol:

When does the trial set?
 

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How is the bold relevant to what transpired at Opera on the night in question?

What's the context that you're talking about?

And once again, why would you have a female like this around you in the first place?

Why are you allowing her in your space to possibly jam you up?
I answered that specific question about how does tho 2 things fit into the context...
I dnt know anyone's motives but I said those things can make her seem like shes doing things for some kind of notoriety...
Now ur follow up questions were are more important...
Ur asking a horny, drunk niggs in a club why he was trying to be all up on a drunk, seemingly horny female.
Uve ever been to a club b4 bro...? I've gotta hand jobs in clubs... fukked bytches right outside of clubs... and I'm sure others have similar stories...
Social media is just showing the reality of things in the world and ppl are trying to make sense of it all ...
Trying to make "Good and evil"... "Monsters and Heros"... cause that's the easiest way the human brain can rationalize shyt
It's hard for ppl to just say...nikkaz are horny, bytches are thots....all that shyt is obvious.
If he gets time for anything he did, he probly deserves it but he ain't no monster. Hes done something that muthafukaz have been doing since ppl started going to clubs, with drunk chix. He just caught...
But none of that excuses her being a thot, even tho u dnt get jail time for being a stone cold thot
 

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Yup... we're gonna have to agree to disagree cause my retort would be what about bill cosby...?

completely different cases. bill cosby was never found guilty of rape or sexually assaulting any of the 30-60 victims. the reason he is in jail for 3-10 years is because he admited to having sexual encounters and administering the use of qualudes and he plead guilty to aggrevated indecent assault.

Wow bro... u were responding to a post where I clearly say surrounding evidence is important...
Those 2 things individually dnt make her not credible... shyt the whole situation makes her not credible...
The two things about her and him being in porn and him being a rapper... her not going immediately to authorities but going straight to social media... can paint a picture of someone who doing things for attention or some sorta notoriety...

she didnt stop her whole night and go running to the police, but the next day when she posted her video in the car saying people on the internet already have facts wrong and its not the guy they think it is, she already mentioned that she had went to the cops and they would handle it, so unlike most sexual assault victims/survivors who wait weeks, months even years if they decide to tell anyone or go to the authorities she went within 48 hours.
 

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If he gets time for anything he did, he probly deserves it but he ain't no monster. He just caught...

Then its up to him to take full responsibility and accountability like the man he wants to be for his seeds and learn everything positive he can about this experience.

You may not define him as a monster, maybe this was his first time, however this is how monsters get made.

People dont intervene, the victims dont speak out, meanwhile he just finger fukked an unwilling girl and took her to an isolated area and told her "shh shh, be quiet" while he did what he wanted to. The more and more him and people like him get away with those type of activities is how monster become made.

You dont just wake up one day, or have too much to drink, or do some drug and become a monster.

Shes a thot but shes still a victim and he is the perpetrator. You can find prostitutes on craigslist and other sites, if you meet up with them and decide to rape/sexually assault them, is it there fault because theyre prostitutes?

He could turn this L into a W by acknowledging he fukked up and if he's the man he says he is use this experience especially to educate his children so they dont end up in the same situation.

Right now he's being the guy who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar saying "i didnt do it"
 

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I answered that specific question about how does tho 2 things fit into the context...
I dnt know anyone's motives but I said those things can make her seem like shes doing things for some kind of notoriety...
Now ur follow up questions were are more important...
Ur asking a horny, drunk niggs in a club why he was trying to be all up on a drunk, seemingly horny female.
Uve ever been to a club b4 bro...? I've gotta hand jobs in clubs... fukked bytches right outside of clubs... and I'm sure others have similar stories...
Social media is just showing the reality of things in the world and ppl are trying to make sense of it all ...
Trying to make "Good and evil"... "Monsters and Heros"... cause that's the easiest way the human brain can rationalize shyt
It's hard for ppl to just say...nikkaz are horny, bytches are thots....all that shyt is obvious.
If he gets time for anything he did, he probly deserves it but he ain't no monster. Hes done something that muthafukaz have been doing since ppl started going to clubs, with drunk chix. He just caught...
But none of that excuses her being a thot, even tho u dnt get jail time for being a stone cold thot
I've done stuff in clubs

I actually frequent Opera(the club in question) a lot

I'm always aware of myself and the females around me though. I would just never be in that situation with a female like that

I honestly feel like if you can make it to a certain age as a black Male, then you should have enough life experience to be able spot a possible bad situation and gtfo
 

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completely different cases. bill cosby was never found guilty of rape or sexually assaulting any of the 30-60 victims. the reason he is in jail for 3-10 years is because he admited to having sexual encounters and administering the use of qualudes and he plead guilty to aggrevated indecent assault.



she didnt stop her whole night and go running to the police, but the next day when she posted her video in the car saying people on the internet already have facts wrong and its not the guy they think it is, she already mentioned that she had went to the cops and they would handle it, so unlike most sexual assault victims/survivors who wait weeks, months even years if they decide to tell anyone or go to the authorities she went within 48 hours.
Brother...in 2015, Cosby had charges put on him because of simple allegation.
I'm not sure if we are looking at things differently or what...
But if someone says nikkahs B.Wilding touched my child... trust me ur ass will be arrested and charged...

And to ur second part...
U should have felt funny typing this "She didnt stop her whole night and go running to the police"
Lol...
Like damn... I just got raped but I'm not tryna inconvenience myself by going to the police right now... I'm partying
 

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Then its up to him to take full responsibility and accountability like the man he wants to be for his seeds and learn everything positive he can about this experience.

You may not define him as a monster, maybe this was his first time, however this is how monsters get made.

People dont intervene, the victims dont speak out, meanwhile he just finger fukked an unwilling girl and took her to an isolated area and told her "shh shh, be quiet" while he did what he wanted to. The more and more him and people like him get away with those type of activities is how monster become made.

You dont just wake up one day, or have too much to drink, or do some drug and become a monster.

Shes a thot but shes still a victim and he is the perpetrator. You can find prostitutes on craigslist and other sites, if you meet up with them and decide to rape/sexually assault them, is it there fault because theyre prostitutes?

He could turn this L into a W by acknowledging he fukked up and if he's the man he says he is use this experience especially to educate his children so they dont end up in the same situation.

Right now he's being the guy who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar saying "i didnt do it"
Why is it only he should take responsibility for his actions.. why is it never both of them, but especially never Her who should take some accountability...
Is this how yall raise yall daughters bro?
Niggsz want p*ssy... horny niggsz wanna feel p*ssy.. the shyt is what it is...
Again if he did those things and gets time for it... then he deserves it...
But there are more niggsz in the club like him, then upstanding citizens who would not try to fukk a drunk thot...
So women everywhere should start taking personal accountability... cause theres worse muthafukaz out here than a nikka trying to finger pop a bytch in the club...
But I can see right now, like I always do when I'm on here... I'm talking to ppl who are on some moral mountain or have never been in anything.
I'm not saying that as disrespect, just saying everybody's perspective is gonna be different
 
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Brother...in 2015, Cosby had charges put on him because of simple allegation.
I'm not sure if we are looking at things differently or what...
But if someone says nikkahs B.Wilding touched my child... trust me ur ass will be arrested and charged...

And to ur second part...
U should have felt funny typing this "She didnt stop her whole night and go running to the police"
Lol...
Like damn... I just got raped but I'm not tryna inconvenience myself by going to the police right now... I'm partying

If someone says I touched their child i will be interviewed, if the circumstances match then i'll be arrested. I know. It been tested twice. Once for physical abuse, once for sexual abuse. After investigations which involved both police, and CPS. I was cleared. I was never cuffed, never saw a cell, hell I didnt even have to go to the police station. My situation is a lil different. I work with juveniles and adults for a living.

People deal with situations different. shyt, you dont know her, maybe she had a brick of weed in her car she needed to safely get home before she went and talked to the cops and they decided to say "Well, what the deal with the brick of weed in your car?"

Ive seen people get shot, drive to the other end of the city, or go miles away from where the shooting occured and call an hour or 2 later. Maybe they were hiding, maybe they were covering up something...i dont know. What you or I would do in any given situation is 100% different from what anyone else would do.

Like someone pointed out the other day, a dude on the red carpet or some shyt got too friendly with Will Smith and Will slapped his face, meanwhile big buff as Terry Crews got his dikk grabbed, and was silent about it for years and didnt retaliate.

Now if you never heard of these stories before, who do you think would be more likely to put their hands on someone Will Smith pr Terry Crews?
 

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I've done stuff in clubs

I actually frequent Opera(the club in question) a lot

I'm always aware of myself and the females around me though. I would just never be in that situation with a female like that

I honestly feel like if you can make it to a certain age as a black Male, then you should have enough life experience to be able spot a possible bad situation and gtfo
Your a hundred percent right...
I cant remember how old dude is... I know they're kinda young...
But even tho what u said are facts...
I was doing nutt ass shyt too.. still do stupid shyt that can get me himmed up, obviously less frequently...
But it's like saying, a nikka died in a car accident cause he was drinking and driving... its illegal to be intoxicated and driving... but we all do it. And we've gotta away with it...
So I can call another niggs dumb if he crashes and burns while doing something everybody has basically done
 

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Why is it only he should take responsibility for his actions.. why is it never both of them, but especially never Her who should take some accountability...
Is this how yall raise yall daughters bro?
Niggsz want p*ssy... horny niggsz wanna feel p*ssy.. the shyt is what it is...
Again if he did those things and gets time for it... then he deserves it...
But there are more niggsz in the club like him, then upstanding citizens who would not try to fukk a drunk thot...
So women everywhere where should start taking personal accountability... cause theres worse muthafukaz out here than a nikka trying to finger pop a bytch in the club...
But I can see right now, like I always do when I'm on here... I'm talking to ppl who are on some moral mountain or have never been in anything.
I'm not saying that as disrespect, just saying everybody's perspective is gonna be different
He needs to take accountability because in this situation he is the perpetrator and she is the victim. Her club going days are likely never going to be the same. Next time she'll probably stay close to a friend, or not drink so much, if she ever goes again.

Imagine if someone broke in your house, and instead of focusing on arresting the suspect or even rectifying the issues of poverty or drugs or whatever reason they found out about why he broke in to your house or any house, they like well @mag357 should get stronger doors, or better locks, maybe invest in a security system, oh well he should have homeowners or renters insurance, thats what its for. If he's scared then he should tool up, etc.

You are the victim in that situation, yeah theres more and better precautions you can take in the future but as of now, in the situation where some nikka just ran through your crib, it aint about what you need to or should, shouldve done or do, its about that fool that ran through your crib.
 

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If someone says I touched their child i will be interviewed, if the circumstances match then i'll be arrested. I know. It been tested twice. Once for physical abuse, once for sexual abuse. After investigations which involved both police, and CPS. I was cleared. I was never cuffed, never saw a cell, hell I didnt even have to go to the police station. My situation is a lil different. I work with juveniles and adults for a living.

People deal with situations different. shyt, you dont know her, maybe she had a brick of weed in her car she needed to safely get home before she went and talked to the cops and they decided to say "Well, what the deal with the brick of weed in your car?"

Ive seen people get shot, drive to the other end of the city, or go miles away from where the shooting occured and call an hour or 2 later. Maybe they were hiding, maybe they were covering up something...i dont know. What you or I would do in any given situation is 100% different from what anyone else would do.

Like someone pointed out the other day, a dude on the red carpet or some shyt got too friendly with Will Smith and Will slapped his face, meanwhile big buff as Terry Crews got his dikk grabbed, and was silent about it for years and didnt retaliate.

Now if you never heard of these stories before, who do you think would be more likely to put their hands on someone Will Smith pr Terry Crews?
Good point.. so I'll use it to make my point lol
Will Smith and Terry crews had different response to some sort of assault....
One response, I'm sure most would agree, is more of a natural response from a man who is about to be violated by another man...
The other person's response was not a natural response ...
So anyone with a brain would say, hmmmmmm I wonder if there is an agenda behind the situation where the one dude didnt respond naturally...
She doesn't add up...
We dnt know exactly what's going on but we just have a funny feeling about the situation...
There could be more to it .
And that's what I'm saying about this case...
And the whole thing about the pound of weed lol....
Cool... but we actually know what shorty did after being traumatized and sodomized by some random dude... the bytch pop that thing for the crowd, she didnt go stash her green lol
 
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